On 2023-10-05 11:24:47 +0000, arthurvv vart said:

> 1) He assigned the task to me, who had worked with him only for a week.
> 2) I am asking him, who is a specialist.
> 3) You should talk to them, who are after all our neighbors.
> 4) You need to than them, who have been always there for you.
>
> Which are grammatical?

All.

> Which are idiomatic?

None: you are illustrating your usual resistance to writing in a natural way.

1) He assigned the task to me, though I had worked only a week with him.
2) I am asking him, as a specialist.
3) You should talk to them. They are after all our neighbors.
4) You need to thank them, as they have been always there for you.

--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

"Navi":
> > 1) He assigned the task to me, who had worked with him only for a week.
> > 2) I am asking him, who is a specialist.
> > 3) You should talk to them, who are after all our neighbors.
> > 4) You need to than them, who have been always there for you.
> >
> > Which are grammatical?
Athel Cornish-Bowden:
> All.
>
> > Which are idiomatic?
>
> None...

Agreed. I'll add that 2 is likely to be understood as meaning

I am asking him "Who is a specialist?"

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On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 13:38:34 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

> On 2023-10-05 11:24:47 +0000, arthurvv vart said:
>
>> 1) He assigned the task to me, who had worked with him only for a week.
>> 2) I am asking him, who is a specialist.
>> 3) You should talk to them, who are after all our neighbors.
>> 4) You need to than them, who have been always there for you.
>>
>> Which are grammatical?
>
> All.
>
>> Which are idiomatic?
>
> None: you are illustrating your usual resistance to writing in a natural way.
>

> 2) I am asking him, as a specialist.

But your correction doesn't make it clear who the specialist is, the one
asking or the one being asked. It's ambiguous. You've been infected! LOL

On 2023-10-05 14:42:49 +0000, Lionel Edwards said:

> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 12:38:41 PM UTC+1, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>> On 2023-10-05 11:24:47 +0000, arthurvv vart said:>> > 1) He assigned
>> the task to me, who had worked with him only for a week.> > 2) I am
>> asking him, who is a specialist.> > 3) You should talk to them, who are
>> after all our neighbors.> > 4) You need to than them, who have been
>> always there for you.> >> > Which are grammatical?
>> All.>> > Which are idiomatic?>> None: you are illustrating your usual
>> resistance to writing in a natural way.>> 1) He assigned the task to
>> me, though I had worked only a week with him.> 2) I am asking him, as a
>> specialist.> 3) You should talk to them. They are after all our
>> neighbors.> 4) You need to thank them, as they have been always there
>> for you.
> As I read that, my brain transposes two words. Isn't this more natural?
> 4) You need to thank them, as they have always been there for you.

Yes. My brain at fault.

--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 09:31:46 -0700 (PDT), Mr. "I'm Always Right", wrote:

>>> Which are idiomatic?
>>
>> None: you are illustrating your usual resistance to writing in a natural way.
>
> You are illustrating your usual resistance to understanding what arthur-Navi
> is doing. He is doing nothing that Chomskyans haven't been doing for 65
> years now

This group is, afaik, about English usage and not about some highly
theoretical linguistic Chomskyan "experiments" that no speaker or writer or
learner of English (or any other language) ever needed to know, nor will
ever need to know. <BG>