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 by: henh...@gmail.com - Sun, 24 Sep 2023 21:19 UTC

(from a book i like)

............. every time you write
[very unique], or “We will hire whomever is more qualified,” thousands of
literate people lose yet another little smidgen of hope.

___________________________

“We will hire whomever is more qualified” --- (doesn't sound that bad to me)

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 by: Hibou - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 07:01 UTC

Le 24/09/2023 à 22:19, henh...@gmail.com a écrit :
> (from a book i like)
>
> ............. every time you write
> [very unique], or “We will hire whomever is more qualified,” thousands of
> literate people lose yet another little smidgen of hope.
>
> ___________________________
>
> “We will hire whomever is more qualified” --- (doesn't sound that bad to me)

I think I'd go with 'whoever' myself; it sounds more natural.

The problem, I suppose, is that the pronoun comes at the junction of two
clauses, "We will hire him" and "he who is more qualified". I think a
quasi-mathematical approach is right, evaluating the secondary clause
first, then inserting the result into the primary:

We will hire {whoever is more qualified}.

'Whoever' should therefore be in the nominative case.

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 by: henh...@gmail.com - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 07:06 UTC

On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 12:01:33 AM UTC-7, Hibou wrote:
> Le 24/09/2023 à 22:19, henh...@gmail.com a écrit :
> > (from a book i like)
> >
> > ............. every time you write
> > [very unique], or “We will hire whomever is more qualified,” thousands of
> > literate people lose yet another little smidgen of hope.
> >
> > ___________________________
> >
> > “We will hire whomever is more qualified” --- (doesn't sound that bad to me)
> I think I'd go with 'whoever' myself; it sounds more natural.
>
> The problem, I suppose, is that the pronoun comes at the junction of two
> clauses, "We will hire him" and "he who is more qualified". I think a
> quasi-mathematical approach is right, evaluating the secondary clause
> first, then inserting the result into the primary:
>
> We will hire {whoever is more qualified}.
>
> 'Whoever' should therefore be in the nominative case.

thanks... [very unique] doesn't sound so bad, and i thnk...
that his phrasing of ... [another little smidgen of hope] is a bit awkward or illogical or inelegant.

> > [very unique], or “We will hire whomever is more qualified,” thousands of literate people lose yet another little smidgen of hope.


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