On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 8:35:30 AM UTC-5, sandy$ wrote:
<snip>
> I also have a fondness for Frito's. About 30 years ago I gave up beef and pork, something about clogging veins and artery's.

Funny thing, "30 years ago"— remember when we used to think 3 weeks was forever, and 3 years was an eternity? :-)

Meanwhile, I've found that *pure* beef products *definitely* cause my elderly mother (she's 93) heart flutters. Meanwhile, there's a half-pork-half-beef in the store that's less expensive than ground beef, and she seems to handle that well. I pretty much "walked away from" steak because it was simply tougher to chew (likely the "cut" of the meat?") and had a much worse tendency to get stuck between my teeth. Pork? never an issue, near as I can tell.

I super-enjoy hot sausage (that's the cheapest kind in the store, incidentally) on a toasted, English muffin, after the muffin has been buttered, with a thin layer of mayo over it, and the sausage (45 seconds in the microwave, in a 2"x2" container, the grease drained on the muffin/butter/mayo base) has been covered with an "agitated egg" (shake it up in a small relish jar or such: gives it amazing fluffiness!) then nuke *that* for 45 seconds.

The "mini-soufflé" then gets added atop the muffin bottom, and a slice of American cheese laid atop the sausage-egg-soufflé.
Just "Yum!" :-)'

There's something about "good grease" that keeps the veins and arteries "supple" / flexible / young / healthy. I never really memorized which was which, but it seems apparent after learning to eat "good fat" again.

I know the one thing the body dislikes (mine, at any rate) is gratuitous sugar (pastries). For some reason, I seem to find pure, maple tree syrup (and some honey) to be tolerable, but sugary things? Dizzy-ville (due to the "dain bramage," for some reason!)

Good news of all that— I've lost around 40 lbs since starting the "no sugar" habit :-)

On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 7:24:47 AM UTC-6, Richard Silk wrote:
> On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 8:35:30 AM UTC-5, sandy$ wrote:
> <snip>
> > I also have a fondness for Frito's. About 30 years ago I gave up beef and pork, something about clogging veins and artery's.
> Funny thing, "30 years ago"— remember when we used to think 3 weeks was forever, and 3 years was an eternity? :-)
>
> Meanwhile, I've found that *pure* beef products *definitely* cause my elderly mother (she's 93) heart flutters. Meanwhile, there's a half-pork-half-beef in the store that's less expensive than ground beef, and she seems to handle that well. I pretty much "walked away from" steak because it was simply tougher to chew (likely the "cut" of the meat?") and had a much worse tendency to get stuck between my teeth. Pork? never an issue, near as I can tell.
>
> I super-enjoy hot sausage (that's the cheapest kind in the store, incidentally) on a toasted, English muffin, after the muffin has been buttered, with a thin layer of mayo over it, and the sausage (45 seconds in the microwave, in a 2"x2" container, the grease drained on the muffin/butter/mayo base) has been covered with an "agitated egg" (shake it up in a small relish jar or such: gives it amazing fluffiness!) then nuke *that* for 45 seconds.
>
> The "mini-soufflé" then gets added atop the muffin bottom, and a slice of American cheese laid atop the sausage-egg-soufflé.
> Just "Yum!" :-)'
>
> There's something about "good grease" that keeps the veins and arteries "supple" / flexible / young / healthy. I never really memorized which was which, but it seems apparent after learning to eat "good fat" again.
>
> I know the one thing the body dislikes (mine, at any rate) is gratuitous sugar (pastries). For some reason, I seem to find pure, maple tree syrup (and some honey) to be tolerable, but sugary things? Dizzy-ville (due to the "dain bramage," for some reason!)
>
> Good news of all that— I've lost around 40 lbs since starting the "no sugar" habit :-)
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Hello Dick,
It is amazing how different we each are in our eating habits. Since I am diabetic I eat two med size fruits each day. All my mothers side of the family were all diabetic. Her mother along with all her siblings. I am allergic to metforman so have to control my diabeties with diet. Doctor did not want me on insulin shots because I am not that bad.
I eat Morningstar sauage which is a soy product and eggies which is egg whites with out the yoke. Once a week I eat a couple fried eggs blotting them on a paper towel to get most of the fat out. I eat ground turkey because it has less fat than chicken. Maybe once or twice a year I eat a couple slices of bacon on a fast food sandwich. I like to go to buffet type places to eat as you can pick out what your want to eat. In the summer time I like to eat lots of salads/soup and in the winter I eat casseroles made with ground turkey. You would be supprised how many ways you can fix ground turkey.
Take care,
Sandy$

Scene opens when I find myself riding on a bus with a group of other people I do not know. Across the isle is a guy eating potato chips from a large bag. He takes a potato chip and offers it to me with his fingers. Not knowing how clean his hands are, I say no thank you, I'm not hungry and I wake up just then.
Sandy$

On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 8:23:48 AM UTC-5, sandy$ wrote:
> <snip> Across the [aisle] is a guy eating potato chips from a large bag.... and offers it to me with his fingers. Not knowing how clean his hands are, I say no thank you, I'm not hungry and I wake up just then.

Food and drink actually seem to have highly significant *relevance* in the dream world *if* any of it is consumed. It's like, if a dreamer eats or drinks anything from a scene, in real life, shortly thereafter, the human being will be involved in something very similar.

By declining food and water from strangers, the dreamer is choosing to remain independent rather than to join an unknown group.

(Then again, the guy could have just been ignorant as to holding out a bag so that a person may take one's own chip.)

On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:24:50 PM UTC-6, Richard Silk wrote:
> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 8:23:48 AM UTC-5, sandy$ wrote:
> > <snip> Across the [aisle] is a guy eating potato chips from a large bag.... and offers it to me with his fingers. Not knowing how clean his hands are, I say no thank you, I'm not hungry and I wake up just then.
>
> Food and drink actually seem to have highly significant *relevance* in the dream world *if* any of it is consumed. It's like, if a dreamer eats or drinks anything from a scene, in real life, shortly thereafter, the human being will be involved in something very similar.
>
> By declining food and water from strangers, the dreamer is choosing to remain independent rather than to join an unknown group.
>
> (Then again, the guy could have just been ignorant as to holding out a bag so that a person may take one's own chip.)
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Hello Dick,
If the guy had offered me one I could of taken from the bag, I would of taken it as I love potato chips, especially the ruffled kind. What he offered were plain ones. I try to stay away from potato chips because of the fat.
Just wanted to tell you that I have a hard time trying to read you dreams because you always relate to yourself as a 2nd person dreaming. Just wonder why?
Sandy$

On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 7:57:05 AM UTC-5, sandy$ wrote:
> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:24:50 PM UTC-6, Richard Silk wrote:
> > On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 8:23:48 AM UTC-5, sandy$ wrote:
<snip>
>I try to stay away from potato chips because of the fat.

Were you aware that *some* fat is *good* for you? Keeps the arteries "lubed" so to speak, prevents hardening, plaque build-up, attacks, strokes, etc. The "bad" fat is that which actually contributes *to* such build-up & hardening. Which is which? It helps to do one's own research. I prefer to go by what Jesus says in Matthew 15:11— A man [One's Spirit] is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it.

> Just wanted to tell you that I have a hard time trying to read [your] dreams because you always relate to yourself as a 2nd person dreaming. Just wonder why?

(Long answer): Well, when "I" speak to "you" I am addressing the "second person," as in "you are asking an interesting question."

When "I" speak of "the dreamer" the perspective is that of the "3rd person," such as "The person ("The dreamer") was reading the Bible."

When "I" speak of only myself, that's only a single person, and as Jesus teaches in John 5:31— "If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true."

When speaking of "you," one also "speaks falsely" as *all* instances of "you are" reflect "duality of ad hominem fallacy." (See also: discussingjesus.quora.com/https-www-quora-com-What-are-some-introductory-critical-thinking-short-notes-answer-Richard-Carl-Silk and also: tinyurl.com/itta-topic-0v1 and tinyurl.com/ITTA-Topic-Ud )

When speaking in 3rd person, "One speaks of ALL" rather than any segment or portion of Creation.
For instance, "we" is the "preferred pronoun" of the demon, formerly known as "Legion" of the Gadarene in Mark 5:9— “What is your name?” Jesus asked. “My name is Legion,” he replied, “for we are many.”
The plural, collective pronoun "we" may be "safely" used in a tightly defined setting, such as:
"The family and I went adventuring last weekend: we had fun."

There are two major examples of "speaking in the 3rd person" in the New Testament: Primarily, Jesus always refers to Himself as "the Son of Man"; John the Disciple / Apostle always refers to himself as [the disciple whom Jesus loved] (or some phrase very similar to that.)

Here's an example of using "One" in the form of "third person Omniscient":
One has a choice— to *love God* (Oneself *and others) NOW and for all eternity, or to {hate, fear, oppose or deny} {anyone or anything} until death. Simple choice. See also: biblehub.com/joshua/24-15.htm — But IF it is unpleasing in your sight to serve the LORD, then CHOOSE for yourselves THIS DAY whom you will serve, whether the gods your fathers served beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living. As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD!”
(See also, Deuteronomy 30, specifically, verses 15-20.)

Silly me, I've somehow always imagined that you've been reading these posts sort of like the occasional comics strip: if it's there, someone reads it.. It barely occurred to me that you *might* have skipped one or two.

(Basically, all this has already been explained throughout the history of these posts, but the opportunity to refresh the information is always helpful 👍)

Over the course of the years, it became somewhat apparent to me that when writing dreams in the 1st person, to say (write) that "I" was [doing something] began to feel "awkward," *especially* in dreams wherein the mind of the dreamer happened to be a female (like one written earlier, just this month! or the one some years ago, on the morning of a specific July 25th, when I dreamt I was my sister about to give birth!!) or when the "point of view" is that of the "first person," as seen from a "camera view perspective."

That is, in first person, the individual never sees one's own face (as the camera never sees itself) because that's the perspective *from* which one is observing.

In first AND second, "I can see *your* face" (1 sees 2.)

In *some* cases, the dream is as if seeing the dreamer from the (3rd person) perspective of, say, a drone camera hovering slightly above or behind, as if from an audience perspective, watching something either on stage or on screen. (That's why the angle of the view is sometimes mentioned: some views are as from below, looking either further below, or forward, or upward to ground level, some from ground level looking either downward, forward or upward, and some from above, looking either downward, forward, or further upward. I *seem* to recall at least *one* dream wherein the view included a *view behind*!)

Somewhere, once upon a time, in the not-too-long-ago, I *seem* to recall posting *one* dream wherein the perspective was *omniscient,* as if seeing in *all* direction *in the single moment* (which, if you close your eyes and think about it a moment or two, you can possibly "see for yourself" what that may be like— for instance, imagine what space must look like, in *all* direction, from the very center point of the sun.)

So at any rate, it occurred to me, that *sometimes* the dreamer (the perspective *in* the dream, regardless of whether it's 1st, 3rd, or Omniscient in some manner) is in a role far different from anything I've ever experienced for myself in real life, say, that of a road worker laying blacktop. Sure, I've *seen* that in person, even been helped by such a person in my early youth, but never worked such a job personally. So for me to dream of being in such a perspective, it simply "reads better" to write that "the dreamer was working as a road builder..." (etc.)

Also, there are times when "I" seem to be "in communication with" either:
A) someone else within the dream, such as "me speaking to you" (1st person to 2nd person) *OR*
B) someone communicating with me, (2nd to 1st) *OR*
C) the mind of the dreamer in communication with an "Omniscient Mind," which (so far) has been sensed at two levels (at least!) such as:
1) the dreamer in communication with myself, as in something I (Richard) happen to know of from this lifetime experience, and am somehow sharing that knowledge with the dreamer, OR
2) the dreamer in communication with a *truly* Omniscient Mind, One that can answer any question the dreamer may ask, and sometimes the answer is so instantaneous with the question, it's as if both are One in the Same: The question *is* the answer, just as a coin has a heads *and* a tails.

(To be honest, it's a bit clearer in recall when the question is asked, and the answer is received in a "linear fashion" much as two people having a discussion. When the answer is instantaneous, it's often necessary to [paraphrase] the text so as to share a [hint] of what was being communicated, or what the answer may have been [akin to] so that an analogy may be understood.)

Having begun using "the dreamer" to reference the mind and/or action of the perspective within the dream, there seems to have come (at times) a much fuller setting of a scene, with respect to details, *notably* to orientation..

There are *often* times dreams that "seem familiar" with respect to location, yet as I'm typing up the dream, I realize that it's "not exactly" the same as IRL (in real life.) But those "similar settings" allow for describing orientation, such that "north" is "up," "south" is "down," "west" is "left," and "east" is "right." (I wonder if people in the southern hemisphere sense that somehow "south" is "up"?)

Then again, sometimes the dreamer may be "facing southwards" which makes "south" akin to "forwards," etc.

I know this may sound silly, but in the back of my mind, there's always the chance that someday, somewhere, some screenwriter or playwright may be looking for ideas, and stumble upon something here in alt.dreams that comes up in an online (Google, Duck Duck Go) search of some kind, and that the settings and directions may somehow be of use. Then again, with even a few more years of practice (assuming I live that long) I may get into that line of work myself. Who knows?

What I *can* tell / share with you is: the more *detail* that one can put into the retelling / journaling of a dream, the more detailed one's dreams will become. It's kinda like learning a skill in grade school: the more the student practices math (or art) the more accomplished the student becomes in that field of study.

Yet even with all that, sometimes I read some of your dreams and am captured by the beauty of the simplicity of the writing! Sometimes I can read one and just "see" the entirety of the scene, or at least enough to understand it. And yet that's when I often feel the need to ask a "clarifying" question or two, like "all that makes perfect sense, but what about [X]?"

Hope that answers your question(s): Feel free to ask a follow-up. ✔

(Short answer): "The dreamer" may be an "astral vehicle" — and as such, may be in any condition / perspective / form at any time, whereas "I" tend to feel limited to the male, human, Richard Carl Silk perspective, which is basically rather "boring" if / when observed primarily from *outside* of the mental perspective.

On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 9:53:29 AM UTC-6, Richard Silk wrote:
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 7:57:05 AM UTC-5, sandy$ wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:24:50 PM UTC-6, Richard Silk wrote:
> > > On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 8:23:48 AM UTC-5, sandy$ wrote:
> <snip>
> >I try to stay away from potato chips because of the fat.
> Were you aware that *some* fat is *good* for you? Keeps the arteries "lubed" so to speak, prevents hardening, plaque build-up, attacks, strokes, etc.. The "bad" fat is that which actually contributes *to* such build-up & hardening. Which is which? It helps to do one's own research. I prefer to go by what Jesus says in Matthew 15:11— A man [One's Spirit] is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it.
>
> > Just wanted to tell you that I have a hard time trying to read [your] dreams because you always relate to yourself as a 2nd person dreaming. Just wonder why?
>
> (Long answer): Well, when "I" speak to "you" I am addressing the "second person," as in "you are asking an interesting question."
>
> When "I" speak of "the dreamer" the perspective is that of the "3rd person," such as "The person ("The dreamer") was reading the Bible."
>
> When "I" speak of only myself, that's only a single person, and as Jesus teaches in John 5:31— "If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true."
>
> When speaking of "you," one also "speaks falsely" as *all* instances of "you are" reflect "duality of ad hominem fallacy." (See also: discussingjesus.quora.com/https-www-quora-com-What-are-some-introductory-critical-thinking-short-notes-answer-Richard-Carl-Silk and also: tinyurl.com/itta-topic-0v1 and tinyurl.com/ITTA-Topic-Ud )
>
> When speaking in 3rd person, "One speaks of ALL" rather than any segment or portion of Creation.
> For instance, "we" is the "preferred pronoun" of the demon, formerly known as "Legion" of the Gadarene in Mark 5:9— “What is your name?” Jesus asked. “My name is Legion,” he replied, “for we are many.”
> The plural, collective pronoun "we" may be "safely" used in a tightly defined setting, such as:
> "The family and I went adventuring last weekend: we had fun."
>
> There are two major examples of "speaking in the 3rd person" in the New Testament: Primarily, Jesus always refers to Himself as "the Son of Man"; John the Disciple / Apostle always refers to himself as [the disciple whom Jesus loved] (or some phrase very similar to that.)
>
> Here's an example of using "One" in the form of "third person Omniscient":
> One has a choice— to *love God* (Oneself *and others) NOW and for all eternity, or to {hate, fear, oppose or deny} {anyone or anything} until death. Simple choice. See also: biblehub.com/joshua/24-15.htm — But IF it is unpleasing in your sight to serve the LORD, then CHOOSE for yourselves THIS DAY whom you will serve, whether the gods your fathers served beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living. As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD!”
> (See also, Deuteronomy 30, specifically, verses 15-20.)
>
> Silly me, I've somehow always imagined that you've been reading these posts sort of like the occasional comics strip: if it's there, someone reads it. It barely occurred to me that you *might* have skipped one or two.
>
> (Basically, all this has already been explained throughout the history of these posts, but the opportunity to refresh the information is always helpful 👍)
>
> Over the course of the years, it became somewhat apparent to me that when writing dreams in the 1st person, to say (write) that "I" was [doing something] began to feel "awkward," *especially* in dreams wherein the mind of the dreamer happened to be a female (like one written earlier, just this month! or the one some years ago, on the morning of a specific July 25th, when I dreamt I was my sister about to give birth!!) or when the "point of view" is that of the "first person," as seen from a "camera view perspective."
>
> That is, in first person, the individual never sees one's own face (as the camera never sees itself) because that's the perspective *from* which one is observing.
>
> In first AND second, "I can see *your* face" (1 sees 2.)
>
> In *some* cases, the dream is as if seeing the dreamer from the (3rd person) perspective of, say, a drone camera hovering slightly above or behind, as if from an audience perspective, watching something either on stage or on screen. (That's why the angle of the view is sometimes mentioned: some views are as from below, looking either further below, or forward, or upward to ground level, some from ground level looking either downward, forward or upward, and some from above, looking either downward, forward, or further upward. I *seem* to recall at least *one* dream wherein the view included a *view behind*!)
>
> Somewhere, once upon a time, in the not-too-long-ago, I *seem* to recall posting *one* dream wherein the perspective was *omniscient,* as if seeing in *all* direction *in the single moment* (which, if you close your eyes and think about it a moment or two, you can possibly "see for yourself" what that may be like— for instance, imagine what space must look like, in *all* direction, from the very center point of the sun.)
>
> So at any rate, it occurred to me, that *sometimes* the dreamer (the perspective *in* the dream, regardless of whether it's 1st, 3rd, or Omniscient in some manner) is in a role far different from anything I've ever experienced for myself in real life, say, that of a road worker laying blacktop. Sure, I've *seen* that in person, even been helped by such a person in my early youth, but never worked such a job personally. So for me to dream of being in such a perspective, it simply "reads better" to write that "the dreamer was working as a road builder..." (etc.)
>
> Also, there are times when "I" seem to be "in communication with" either:
> A) someone else within the dream, such as "me speaking to you" (1st person to 2nd person) *OR*
> B) someone communicating with me, (2nd to 1st) *OR*
> C) the mind of the dreamer in communication with an "Omniscient Mind," which (so far) has been sensed at two levels (at least!) such as:
> 1) the dreamer in communication with myself, as in something I (Richard) happen to know of from this lifetime experience, and am somehow sharing that knowledge with the dreamer, OR
> 2) the dreamer in communication with a *truly* Omniscient Mind, One that can answer any question the dreamer may ask, and sometimes the answer is so instantaneous with the question, it's as if both are One in the Same: The question *is* the answer, just as a coin has a heads *and* a tails.
>
> (To be honest, it's a bit clearer in recall when the question is asked, and the answer is received in a "linear fashion" much as two people having a discussion. When the answer is instantaneous, it's often necessary to [paraphrase] the text so as to share a [hint] of what was being communicated, or what the answer may have been [akin to] so that an analogy may be understood.)
>
> Having begun using "the dreamer" to reference the mind and/or action of the perspective within the dream, there seems to have come (at times) a much fuller setting of a scene, with respect to details, *notably* to orientation.
>
> There are *often* times dreams that "seem familiar" with respect to location, yet as I'm typing up the dream, I realize that it's "not exactly" the same as IRL (in real life.) But those "similar settings" allow for describing orientation, such that "north" is "up," "south" is "down," "west" is "left," and "east" is "right." (I wonder if people in the southern hemisphere sense that somehow "south" is "up"?)
>
> Then again, sometimes the dreamer may be "facing southwards" which makes "south" akin to "forwards," etc.
>
> I know this may sound silly, but in the back of my mind, there's always the chance that someday, somewhere, some screenwriter or playwright may be looking for ideas, and stumble upon something here in alt.dreams that comes up in an online (Google, Duck Duck Go) search of some kind, and that the settings and directions may somehow be of use. Then again, with even a few more years of practice (assuming I live that long) I may get into that line of work myself. Who knows?
>
> What I *can* tell / share with you is: the more *detail* that one can put into the retelling / journaling of a dream, the more detailed one's dreams will become. It's kinda like learning a skill in grade school: the more the student practices math (or art) the more accomplished the student becomes in that field of study.
>
> Yet even with all that, sometimes I read some of your dreams and am captured by the beauty of the simplicity of the writing! Sometimes I can read one and just "see" the entirety of the scene, or at least enough to understand it. And yet that's when I often feel the need to ask a "clarifying" question or two, like "all that makes perfect sense, but what about [X]?"
>
> Hope that answers your question(s): Feel free to ask a follow-up. ✔
>
> (Short answer): "The dreamer" may be an "astral vehicle" — and as such, may be in any condition / perspective / form at any time, whereas "I" tend to feel limited to the male, human, Richard Carl Silk perspective, which is basically rather "boring" if / when observed primarily from *outside* of the mental perspective.
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Hello Dick.
Thank you for your input about the 1st, 2nd and 3rd dream person. I am pretty sure the potato chip fat is the bad kind. Maybe I should buy a bag just to check out what kind of fat they use. Grinning.
Sandy$

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 8:02:57 AM UTC-5, sandy$wrote:
<snip>
> Hello Dick.
> Thank you for your input about the 1st, 2nd and 3rd dream person. I am pretty sure the potato chip fat is the bad kind. Maybe I should buy a bag just to check out what kind of fat they use. Grinning.

What I *can* tell you is the "good" type of fat is anything that comes as a part of meat. Sure, most folk "trim the fat," but that's the *good* type of fat that the body uses for energy, and stores *safely* as energy reserves.

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 12:13:29 PM UTC-6, Richard Silk wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 8:02:57 AM UTC-5, sandy$wrote:
> <snip>
> > Hello Dick.
> > Thank you for your input about the 1st, 2nd and 3rd dream person. I am pretty sure the potato chip fat is the bad kind. Maybe I should buy a bag just to check out what kind of fat they use. Grinning.
> What I *can* tell you is the "good" type of fat is anything that comes as a part of meat. Sure, most folk "trim the fat," but that's the *good* type of fat that the body uses for energy, and stores *safely* as energy reserves.
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Hello Dick,
I brought a small bag of Lay's potato chips and this is the order thay were listed vegetable oil,canola oil, soybean oil and sunflower oil. Looks like I was right about potato chips.
Sandy$

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-5, sandy$ wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 12:13:29 PM UTC-6, Richard Silk wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 8:02:57 AM UTC-5, sandy$wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > Thank you for your input about the 1st, 2nd and 3rd dream person. I am pretty sure the potato chip fat is the bad kind. Maybe I should buy a bag just to check out what kind of fat they use. Grinning.
> > What I *can* tell you is the "good" type of fat is anything that comes as a part of meat. Sure, most folk "trim the fat," but that's the *good* type of fat that the body uses for energy, and stores *safely* as energy reserves.
> ***<snip>
> Hello Dick,
> I brought a small bag of Lay's potato chips and this is the order [they] were listed vegetable oil,canola oil, soybean oil and sunflower oil. Looks like I was right about potato chips.
> Sandy$

Although I tend to avoid the potato chips made in the style of Lay's, I'm a *huge* fan of Pringles', although I haven't had any in some time, although I've been a life-long "Frito Bandito" :-)

There was so much back-n-forth back in the '80s, '90s, and even today on what types of "fats" are "good" for you and what's "not," that I pretty much went to using EVOO (ext.virg. olive oil) in practically everything that asks for an oil in the recipe. There's a major difference between an oil that's produced from a "fruit" (such as an olive, a "drupe") and that of a grass-like seed, which has a strong connection with that which causes hay fever and a whole host of other gut diseases that may reveal as diarrhea, psoriasis, eczema, and all those other side effects of undiagnosable gluten intolerance, etc.

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 8:50:59 AM UTC-6, Richard Silk wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-5, sandy$ wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 12:13:29 PM UTC-6, Richard Silk wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 8:02:57 AM UTC-5, sandy$wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > Thank you for your input about the 1st, 2nd and 3rd dream person. I am pretty sure the potato chip fat is the bad kind. Maybe I should buy a bag just to check out what kind of fat they use. Grinning.
> > > What I *can* tell you is the "good" type of fat is anything that comes as a part of meat. Sure, most folk "trim the fat," but that's the *good* type of fat that the body uses for energy, and stores *safely* as energy reserves.
> > ***<snip>
> > Hello Dick,
> > I brought a small bag of Lay's potato chips and this is the order [they] were listed vegetable oil,canola oil, soybean oil and sunflower oil. Looks like I was right about potato chips.
> > Sandy$
>
> Although I tend to avoid the potato chips made in the style of Lay's, I'm a *huge* fan of Pringles', although I haven't had any in some time, although I've been a life-long "Frito Bandito" :-)
>
> There was so much back-n-forth back in the '80s, '90s, and even today on what types of "fats" are "good" for you and what's "not," that I pretty much went to using EVOO (ext.virg. olive oil) in practically everything that asks for an oil in the recipe. There's a major difference between an oil that's produced from a "fruit" (such as an olive, a "drupe") and that of a grass-like seed, which has a strong connection with that which causes hay fever and a whole host of other gut diseases that may reveal as diarrhea, psoriasis, eczema, and all those other side effects of undiagnosable gluten intolerance, etc.

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 8:50:59 AM UTC-6, Richard Silk wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 8:00:36 AM UTC-5, sandy$ wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 12:13:29 PM UTC-6, Richard Silk wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 8:02:57 AM UTC-5, sandy$wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > Thank you for your input about the 1st, 2nd and 3rd dream person. I am pretty sure the potato chip fat is the bad kind. Maybe I should buy a bag just to check out what kind of fat they use. Grinning.
> > > What I *can* tell you is the "good" type of fat is anything that comes as a part of meat. Sure, most folk "trim the fat," but that's the *good* type of fat that the body uses for energy, and stores *safely* as energy reserves.
> > ***<snip>
> > Hello Dick,
> > I brought a small bag of Lay's potato chips and this is the order [they] were listed vegetable oil,canola oil, soybean oil and sunflower oil. Looks like I was right about potato chips.
> > Sandy$
>
> Although I tend to avoid the potato chips made in the style of Lay's, I'm a *huge* fan of Pringles', although I haven't had any in some time, although I've been a life-long "Frito Bandito" :-)
>
> There was so much back-n-forth back in the '80s, '90s, and even today on what types of "fats" are "good" for you and what's "not," that I pretty much went to using EVOO (ext.virg. olive oil) in practically everything that asks for an oil in the recipe. There's a major difference between an oil that's produced from a "fruit" (such as an olive, a "drupe") and that of a grass-like seed, which has a strong connection with that which causes hay fever and a whole host of other gut diseases that may reveal as diarrhea, psoriasis, eczema, and all those other side effects of undiagnosable gluten intolerance, etc.
Hello Dick,
I also have a fondness for Frito's. About 30 years ago I gave up beef and pork, something about clogging veins and artery's.
Sandy$

On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 8:36:28 AM UTC-5, sandy$ wrote:
> > <snip>
> It is amazing how different we each are in our eating habits. Since I am diabetic I eat two med size fruits each day.

.... to keep the sugar level *up*? That *is* different. I've always seen sugar as a "too much" type problem (leading to fat, hyperglycemia, etc.) Just goes to show ya, every coin has its "flip side." ✔

>All my [mother's] side of the family were all diabetic. Her mother along with all her siblings. I am allergic to metforman so have to control my [diabetes] with diet. Doctor did not want me on insulin shots because I am not that bad.

Just taking a wild guess here— do you have a stronger physical resemblance to your dad's side of the family?

> I eat Morningstar [sausage] which is a soy product and eggies which is egg whites with out the yoke.

Ever since it was undeniably proven that the *vast* majority of the ADA guidelines are designed to *promote* dependency *on* medics and "big pharma" rather than *free* people *from* them, I just "tossed out" all their "recommended" content and just started eating as much unprocessed food as possible (sliced, grown, or ground makes for *easy* fixin'!) (And sure, it does allow for an *occasional* "processed treat"— (like Fritos!— (every half hour or so...)— mixed with pecans and {pistachios in sea salt & vinegar})) :-)

> Once a week I eat a couple fried eggs blotting them on a paper towel to get most of the fat out. I eat ground turkey because it has less fat than chicken.

I used to get the ground turkey. Shopping by (lowest) price per pound, it's sometimes a toss up between the beef-pork and the turkey. It's a sin what "Bidenomics" has done to our country: iceberg lettuce used to be 27¢ a head (before Clinton?) and around 87¢ a head (during Trump) but now it's at *nearly* $2 per head since 2021! Eventually, that boil has *got* to *POP!*

> Maybe once or twice a year I eat a couple slices of bacon on a fast food sandwich.

Last night (and the night before) I enjoyed drumsticks wrapped in thick-sliced bacon— (I do my own cooking.)

We gotta get off of food... I've forgotten what my dreams were from last night / this morning!

> I like to go to buffet type places to eat as you can pick out what your want to eat. In the summer time I like to eat lots of salads/soup and in the winter I eat casseroles made with ground turkey. You would be [surprised] how many ways you can fix ground turkey.

I was *somewhere* in my early 30s when I decided to do my first turkey for Thanksgiving— bought a Butterball (big 'un!) and the pop-up meat thermometers, also the gauge-type meters, big roasting pan, tented foil, etc.
When it came out, I was curious as to how it would taste:

.. . . . . *DELICIOUS!!!!*

I was over 30 years old before I learned *why* people ate Turkey on Thanksgiving! (I'd always had it overdone / dry / nearly tasteless / tough.) Go figure...?