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* USA Falls To Tenth In Freedom IndexBradley K. Sherman
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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 14:50 UTC

|
| Freedom level, 2022. (100 = most free)
|
| FIN: 100
| NOR: 100
| SWE: 100
| CAN: 98
| JPN: 96
| AUS: 95
| GER: 94
| GBR: 93
| FRA: 89
| USA: 83
| ...
<https://twitter.com/theworldindex/status/1554501165685084160>

--bks

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 by: David Hartung - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 16:08 UTC

On 8/3/22 09:50, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> |
> | Freedom level, 2022. (100 = most free)
> |
> | FIN: 100
> | NOR: 100
> | SWE: 100
> | CAN: 98
> | JPN: 96
> | AUS: 95
> | GER: 94
> | GBR: 93
> | FRA: 89
> | USA: 83

Why do you believe that to be?

For that matter, what metrics does this list use?

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 by: Blue Lives Matter - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 16:19 UTC

On 3 Aug 2022 14:50:06 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
wrote:

> |
> | Freedom level, 2022. (100 = most free)
> |
> | FIN: 100
> | NOR: 100
> | SWE: 100
> | CAN: 98
> | JPN: 96
> | AUS: 95
> | GER: 94
> | GBR: 93
> | FRA: 89
> | USA: 83
> | ...
><https://twitter.com/theworldindex/status/1554501165685084160>
>
> --bks

<LOL> Who/what the fuck is "theworldindex"?

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 by: Blue Lives Matter - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 17:03 UTC

On Wed, 3 Aug 2022 11:08:35 -0500, David Hartung <david@Hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 8/3/22 09:50, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>> |
>> | Freedom level, 2022. (100 = most free)
>> |
>> | FIN: 100
>> | NOR: 100
>> | SWE: 100
>> | CAN: 98
>> | JPN: 96
>> | AUS: 95
>> | GER: 94
>> | GBR: 93
>> | FRA: 89
>> | USA: 83
>
>Why do you believe that to be?
>
>For that matter, what metrics does this list use?

Only an anti-USA organization would rate Canada and the UK higher than
the USA. Neither of them even have free speech.

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 by: Siri Cruise - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 17:33 UTC

In article <2GOdndXl_pTIAHf_nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
David Hartung <david@Hotmail.com> wrote:

> Why do you believe that to be?

All the republicans that want a coup to overturn the
Constitution. They're tired of minorities electing the wrong
people.

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 by: David Hartung - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 18:00 UTC

On 8/3/22 12:33, Siri Cruise wrote:
> In article <2GOdndXl_pTIAHf_nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> David Hartung <david@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Why do you believe that to be?
>
> All the republicans that want a coup to overturn the
> Constitution. They're tired of minorities electing the wrong
> people.

And ignorance rears its ugly head again.

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 by: governor...@gmail.com - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 21:35 UTC

On 3 Aug 2022 14:50:06 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
wrote:

> |
> | Freedom level, 2022. (100 = most free)
> |
> | FIN: 100
> | NOR: 100
> | SWE: 100
> | CAN: 98
> | JPN: 96
> | AUS: 95
> | GER: 94
> | GBR: 93
> | FRA: 89
> | USA: 83
> | ...
><https://twitter.com/theworldindex/status/1554501165685084160>
>
> --bks

The link is to Twitter. Social media cites are not acceptable.

Swill
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Republicans make me feel ashamed of being human.

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 by: governor...@gmail.com - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 21:37 UTC

On Wed, 03 Aug 2022 12:19:12 -0400, Blue Lives Matter
<Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote:

>On 3 Aug 2022 14:50:06 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
>wrote:
>
>> |
>> | Freedom level, 2022. (100 = most free)
>> |
>> | FIN: 100
>> | NOR: 100
>> | SWE: 100
>> | CAN: 98
>> | JPN: 96
>> | AUS: 95
>> | GER: 94
>> | GBR: 93
>> | FRA: 89
>> | USA: 83
>> | ...
>><https://twitter.com/theworldindex/status/1554501165685084160>
>>
>> --bks
>
><LOL> Who/what the fuck is "theworldindex"?

A username on Twitter. Sorry, OP, social media cites and not
acceptable.

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 by: Yak - Wed, 3 Aug 2022 21:48 UTC

On 8/3/22 10:50 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
> |
> | Freedom level, 2022. (100 = most free)
> |
> | FIN: 100
> | NOR: 100
> | SWE: 100
> | CAN: 98
> | JPN: 96
> | AUS: 95
> | GER: 94
> | GBR: 93
> | FRA: 89
> | USA: 83
> | ...
> <https://twitter.com/theworldindex/status/1554501165685084160>
>
> --bks

Liberals in charge, what else do you expect?

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Thank you for the list. However, I disagree with Sweden being at the top of the list. Sweden is a tyrannical
feminist state. Men who refuse to adhere to the feminist program by word or deed will likely lose their jobs and be
otherwise black listed. It's called "political correctness". Sweden is known for being extremely "politically correct".

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On 3 Aug 2022 14:50:06 -0000, bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
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> |
> | Freedom level, 2022. (100 = most free)
> |
> | FIN: 100
> | NOR: 100
> | SWE: 100
> | CAN: 98
> | JPN: 96
> | AUS: 95
> | GER: 94
> | GBR: 93
> | FRA: 89
> | USA: 83
> | ...
><https://twitter.com/theworldindex/status/1554501165685084160>
>
> --bks

Of course no citation to this study or how it is created...

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Thu, 4 Aug 2022 13:39 UTC

Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
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>><https://twitter.com/theworldindex/status/1554501165685084160>
>
>Of course no citation to this study or how it is created...

Fair enough, Kremlin Girl. Let's look for a well-annotated
list ... OMG, Trump crashed the USA to a three-way tie for #15!

1 Switzerland
2 New Zealand
3 Denmark
4 Estonia
5 Ireland
6 Finland
7 Canada
8 Australia
9 Sweden
10 Luxembourg
11 Netherlands
12 Iceland
13 Norway
14 UK
15 Germany (tie)
15 Japan (tie)
15 USA (tie)
...
<https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/2021-12/human-freedom-index-2021.pdf>

And that's according to CATO (v. right wing).

--bks

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On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 13:39:57 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> | ...
>>><https://twitter.com/theworldindex/status/1554501165685084160>
>>
>>Of course no citation to this study or how it is created...
>
>Fair enough, Kremlin Girl. Let's look for a well-annotated
>list ... OMG, Trump crashed the USA to a three-way tie for #15!
>
> 1 Switzerland
> 2 New Zealand
> 3 Denmark
> 4 Estonia
> 5 Ireland
> 6 Finland
> 7 Canada
> 8 Australia
> 9 Sweden
> 10 Luxembourg
> 11 Netherlands
> 12 Iceland
> 13 Norway
> 14 UK
> 15 Germany (tie)
> 15 Japan (tie)
> 15 USA (tie)
> ...
><https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/2021-12/human-freedom-index-2021.pdf>
>
>And that's according to CATO (v. right wing).
>
> --bks

So, unable to support your first cite (and you issue no retraction)
you change to a different study whos data is now three years old and
you claim Trump "crashed" the number when, in fact, it is unchanged
since the last study. This is why I can never take you seriously.

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On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 10:50:10 AM UTC-4, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
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> | Freedom level, 2022. (100 = most free)
> |
> | FIN: 100
> | NOR: 100
> | SWE: 100
> | CAN: 98
> | JPN: 96
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> | GER: 94
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> | FRA: 89
> | USA: 83
> | ...
> <https://twitter.com/theworldindex/status/1554501165685084160>
>
> --bks

Canada hasn't been replaced with the Netherlands?

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On Fri, 05 Aug 2022 06:54:55 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 4 Aug 2022 13:39:57 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>Sherman) wrote:
>
>>Kremlin Girl <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> | ...
>>>><https://twitter.com/theworldindex/status/1554501165685084160>
>>>
>>>Of course no citation to this study or how it is created...
>>
>>Fair enough, Kremlin Girl. Let's look for a well-annotated
>>list ... OMG, Trump crashed the USA to a three-way tie for #15!
>>
>> 1 Switzerland
>> 2 New Zealand
>> 3 Denmark
>> 4 Estonia
>> 5 Ireland
>> 6 Finland
>> 7 Canada
>> 8 Australia
>> 9 Sweden
>> 10 Luxembourg
>> 11 Netherlands
>> 12 Iceland
>> 13 Norway
>> 14 UK
>> 15 Germany (tie)
>> 15 Japan (tie)
>> 15 USA (tie)
>> ...
>><https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/2021-12/human-freedom-index-2021.pdf>
>>
>>And that's according to CATO (v. right wing).
>>
>> --bks
>
>So, unable to support your first cite (and you issue no retraction)
>you change to a different study whos data is now three years old and
>you claim Trump "crashed" the number when, in fact, it is unchanged
>since the last study. This is why I can never take you seriously.

And the Russian troll has vanished.

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 by: Bradley K. Sherman - Sat, 6 Aug 2022 13:24 UTC

>>> 1 Switzerland
>>> 2 New Zealand
>>> 3 Denmark
>>> 4 Estonia
>>> 5 Ireland
>>> 6 Finland
>>> 7 Canada
>>> 8 Australia
>>> 9 Sweden
>>> 10 Luxembourg
>>> 11 Netherlands
>>> 12 Iceland
>>> 13 Norway
>>> 14 UK
>>> 15 Germany (tie)
>>> 15 Japan (tie)
>>> 15 USA (tie)
>>> ...
>>><https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/2021-12/human-freedom-index-2021.pdf>

--bks

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On 8/3/22 5:48 PM, Yak wrote:
> On 8/3/22 10:50 AM, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
>>   |
>>   | Freedom level, 2022. (100 = most free)
>>   |
>>   | FIN: 100
>>   | NOR: 100
>>   | SWE: 100
>>   | CAN: 98
>>   | JPN: 96
>>   | AUS: 95
>>   | GER: 94
>>   | GBR: 93
>>   | FRA: 89
>>   | USA: 83
>>   | ...
>> <https://twitter.com/theworldindex/status/1554501165685084160>
>>
>>      --bks
>
> Liberals in charge, what else do you expect?

Finland, Norway, Sweden ... VERY Lefty. On the
other hand they have relatively homogenous
populations, LOW pop density and are way up
where nobody really thinks about them.

But even THEY aren't what you'd call "free" ...
there are all SORTS of verboten - like "get
arrested if you say it" - subjects/perspectives.

At this juncture, the USA is still "most free" -
most Power To (All) The People - but it ain't what
it used to be.

Alas, historically, the NORMAL state of the world
is totalitarianism. Obey Fearless Leader - think
what he TELLS you to think .... or ELSE. Takes
SERIOUS effort to get beyond that, and it seems
like everybody's been slackin'.

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