Vivek Ramaswamy is a newcomer to American politics, but one who
managed to grab the spotlight in the recent Republican Debate with his
Energizer Bunny rapid-fire speech and - in my opinion, and in the
opinion of others - idiotic pronouncements.

After the debate, he was interviewed by Sean Hannity in the "Spin
Room" and Hannity asked him how his first name should be pronounced.
Ramaswamy said "Vivek to rhyme with 'cake'".

In every newscast I've seen his first name has been pronouced to rhyme
with "Dreck" (my choice of words).

Ramaswamy was the lead guest on "Meet The Press" this morning, and
Chuck Todd used the Dreck-rhyming pronunciation.

Ramaswamy's parents are Indian Hindu and Tamil-speaking Brahmins from
Kerala, so I assume "Vivek" is a common first name in that culture.

I am surprised that no one other than Hannity has ever tried to
determine Ramaswamy's preferred pronunciation or uses it.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

On 2023-08-27 16:36:25 +0000, TonyCooper said:

> Vivek Ramaswamy is a newcomer to American politics, but one who
> managed to grab the spotlight in the recent Republican Debate with his
> Energizer Bunny rapid-fire speech and - in my opinion, and in the
> opinion of others - idiotic pronouncements.
>
> After the debate, he was interviewed by Sean Hannity in the "Spin
> Room" and Hannity asked him how his first name should be pronounced.
> Ramaswamy said "Vivek to rhyme with 'cake'".
>
> In every newscast I've seen his first name has been pronouced to rhyme
> with "Dreck" (my choice of words).
>
> Ramaswamy was the lead guest on "Meet The Press" this morning, and
> Chuck Todd used the Dreck-rhyming pronunciation.
>
> Ramaswamy's parents are Indian Hindu and Tamil-speaking Brahmins from
> Kerala, so I assume "Vivek" is a common first name in that culture.

Kerala is the most civilized of Indian states (most notably in its
treatment of women), but no doubt it has some unappealing people.
>
> I am surprised that no one other than Hannity has ever tried to
> determine Ramaswamy's preferred pronunciation or uses it.
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

TonyCooper wrote:

> After the debate, he was interviewed by Sean Hannity in the "Spin
> Room" and Hannity asked him how his first name should be pronounced.
> Ramaswamy said "Vivek to rhyme with 'cake'".

Dreck-pronunciation (of Vivek Ramaswamy) by a Hindu man:
https://forvo.com/word/vivek_ramaswamy/#en

and by a Hindi woman (only Vivek):
https://forvo.com/search/Vivek/hi/

I am not trying to correct the way Vivek Ramaswamy wants his name to be
spoken, but it seems that the dreck-pronunciation of "Vivek" is not wrong.

Sorry about the https ...

--
Bertel, Denmark

On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 10:36:31 AM UTC-6, TonyCooper wrote:
> Vivek Ramaswamy is a newcomer to American politics, but one who
> managed to grab the spotlight in the recent Republican Debate with his
> Energizer Bunny rapid-fire speech and - in my opinion, and in the
> opinion of others - idiotic pronouncements.
>
> After the debate, he was interviewed by Sean Hannity in the "Spin
> Room" and Hannity asked him how his first name should be pronounced.
> Ramaswamy said "Vivek to rhyme with 'cake'".
>
> In every newscast I've seen his first name has been pronouced to rhyme
> with "Dreck" (my choice of words).
....

My Punjabi friend pronounces that name to rhyme with "cake", or in
Mr. Ramaswamy's case, with "mistake". Or if not an exact rhyme, it's
very close.

--
Jerry Friedman

On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 19:34:14 +0200, Bertel Lund Hansen
<gadekryds@lundhansen.dk> wrote:

> TonyCooper wrote:
>
>> After the debate, he was interviewed by Sean Hannity in the "Spin
>> Room" and Hannity asked him how his first name should be pronounced.
>> Ramaswamy said "Vivek to rhyme with 'cake'".
>
>Dreck-pronunciation (of Vivek Ramaswamy) by a Hindu man:
>https://forvo.com/word/vivek_ramaswamy/#en
>
>and by a Hindi woman (only Vivek):
>https://forvo.com/search/Vivek/hi/
>
>I am not trying to correct the way Vivek Ramaswamy wants his name to be
>spoken, but it seems that the dreck-pronunciation of "Vivek" is not wrong.

It's not a right or wrong choice for the pronunciation of the name by
everyone. I think it's been agreed here that every individual should
be the person who decides how their own name should be pronounced.

Ramaswamy specifically said he thinks his name should be pronounced to
rhyme with "cake".

I cited him making that statement to Sean Hannity, but he has made the
same statement at other times:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/vivek-ramaswamy-fox-and-friends-freestyle-rap_n_64c2a437e4b0fd06594a0398

“I open up by saying, ’My name is Vivek, It rhymes with cake,” before
spitting some more verses"

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 1:47:57 PM UTC-4, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 10:36:31 AM UTC-6, TonyCooper wrote:

> > Vivek Ramaswamy is a newcomer to American politics, but one who
> > managed to grab the spotlight in the recent Republican Debate with his
> > Energizer Bunny rapid-fire speech and - in my opinion, and in the
> > opinion of others - idiotic pronouncements.
> > After the debate, he was interviewed by Sean Hannity in the "Spin
> > Room" and Hannity asked him how his first name should be pronounced.
> > Ramaswamy said "Vivek to rhyme with 'cake'".
> > In every newscast I've seen his first name has been pronouced to rhyme
> > with "Dreck" (my choice of words).
>
> My Punjabi friend pronounces that name to rhyme with "cake", or in
> Mr. Ramaswamy's case, with "mistake". Or if not an exact rhyme, it's
> very close.

If the heading/er had been worded more informatively, AUE's resident
native speaker of Tamil might have commented.

On 2023-08-27 11:34, Bertel Lund Hansen wrote:
>  TonyCooper wrote:
>
>> After the debate, he was interviewed by Sean Hannity in the "Spin
>> Room" and Hannity asked him how his first name should be pronounced.
>> Ramaswamy said "Vivek to rhyme with 'cake'".
>
> Dreck-pronunciation (of Vivek Ramaswamy) by a Hindu man:
> https://forvo.com/word/vivek_ramaswamy/#en
>
> and by a Hindi woman (only Vivek):
> https://forvo.com/search/Vivek/hi/
>
> I am not trying to correct the way Vivek Ramaswamy wants his name to be
> spoken, but it seems that the dreck-pronunciation of "Vivek" is not wrong.

For the man's version I hear it sounding like 'vivik' (rhymes with 'stick').

The woman's version sounds like 'vivake' (rhymes with 'cake').

> Sorry about the https ...
>

--
A rolling stone gathers momentum.

On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 12:42:27 PM UTC-7, lar3ryca wrote:

> A rolling stone gathers momentum.

Only on the downhill part of the journey.

bill

* Athel Cornish-Bowden <kl1e1dFnfl4U1 @mid.individual.net> :
Wrote on Sun, 27 Aug 2023 19:04:44 +0200:
> On 2023-08-27 16:36:25 +0000, TonyCooper said:
>
>> Vivek Ramaswamy is a newcomer to American politics, but one who
>> managed to grab the spotlight in the recent Republican Debate with
>> his Energizer Bunny rapid-fire speech and - in my opinion, and in the
>> opinion of others - idiotic pronouncements. After the debate, he was
>> interviewed by Sean Hannity in the "Spin Room" and Hannity asked him
>> how his first name should be pronounced. Ramaswamy said "Vivek to
>> rhyme with 'cake'". In every newscast I've seen his first name has
>> been pronouced to rhyme with "Dreck" (my choice of words). Ramaswamy
>> was the lead guest on "Meet The Press" this morning, and Chuck Todd
>> used the Dreck-rhyming pronunciation. Ramaswamy's parents are Indian
>> Hindu and Tamil-speaking Brahmins from Kerala, so I assume "Vivek" is
>> a common first name in that culture.
>
> Kerala is the most civilized of Indian states (most notably in its
> treatment of women), but no doubt it has some unappealing people.

The subject is I presume Ethnically Tamil. and I think the Cake
pronounciation is "south indian brahminic sanskrit" the drek
pronounciation can be found for Viveks from Bengal and Orissa (also it
becomes Bibek in those cases)

>> I am surprised that no one other than Hannity has ever tried to
>> determine Ramaswamy's preferred pronunciation or uses it.

On 27-Aug-23 22:42, bil...@shaw.ca wrote:
> On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 12:42:27 PM UTC-7, lar3ryca wrote:
>
>> A rolling stone gathers momentum.
>
> Only on the downhill part of the journey.

At least one rolling stone has been gathering a pension for 15 years.

--
Sam Plusnet
(Mick Jagger is 80)