It's time to write the list.

But I'm a bit short on time right now, so here are their names and birth years only.

And director Joseph H. Lewis was supposedly 100 when he died in 2000, but by now, the more reputable sources say he was 93.

1873 Adolph Zukor
1882 Estelle Winwood
1887 George Abbott
1888 Irving Berlin
1889 Athene Seyler
1892 Hal Roach
1896 George Burns
1897 Mary Ellis
1898 Irving Rapper, Margaret Booth
1900 Frederica Maas
1902 Leni Riefenstahl
1903 Bob Hope, Johannes Heesters
1905 Marie Glory
1906 Bruce Bennett, Barbara Kent
1907 Dercy Gonçalves, Run Run Shaw
1908 Jean Delannoy, Tullio Pinelli, Manoel de Oliveira
1909 Robert Boyle, Carla Laemmle
1910 Luise Rainer, Gloria Stuart
1911 Lupita Tovar, Herb Jeffries, Paulette Dubost
1912 Kaneto Shindo
1913 Douglas Slocombe, Elmo Williams
1914 Mary Carlisle, Norman Lloyd
1915 Leslie H. Martinson, Wally Cassell, Patricia Morison, Jack Rollins, Van Alexander
1916 Harry Rabinowitz, Olivia de Havilland, Jean Rouverol, Kirk Douglas
1917 Danielle Darrieux, Marsha Hunt
1918 Shinobu Hashimoto, Artur Brauner
1919 Caren Marsh (alive), Marge Champion
1920 Norma Barzman (alive)
1921 Bill Butler, Walter Mirisch
1922 Norman Lear, Micheline Presle, Janis Paige, Bert I. Gordon, Jacqueline White (all alive except Gordon)

And I'd love to add director Madeline Anderson, but in addition to 1923, there are claims she was born in...1924, 1927 and 1928. Very strange.

So in the meantime, we'll have to wait until October for the first official centenarian of the year - Glynis Johns.

And, on an unrelated note, I came across a post of mine from Jan. 2012 in which I predicted that Jeanne Calment's record of 122 years and 164 days wouldn't get broken for two more decades at least.

Just wanted to say that, according to the CURRENT listing at Wikipedia, there are six women and one man who COULD break the record. (For all we know, there could be more people born before August, 1909 who are still around.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_living_people

But we'll still have to wait till the late summer of 2029, according to the list.

And, on an unrelated note, I came across a post of mine from Jan. 2012 in which I predicted that Jeanne Calment's record of 122 years and 164 days wouldn't get broken for two more decades at least.
Just wanted to say that, according to the CURRENT listing at Wikipedia, there are six women and one man who COULD break the record by Jan. 2032. (For all we know, there could be more people born before August, 1909 who are still around.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_living_people
But we'll still have to wait till the late summer of 2029, according to the list.

> So in the meantime, we'll have to wait until October for the first official centenarian of the year - Glynis Johns.

Aargh - mistake!

Producer Stan Waterman turned 100 in April.

Another fascinating roster from the punctuated Lenona. !

I realize Dolores Hope didn't make movies herself--at least to my sparse knowledge of early Hollywood--but couldn't you find it in your heart to also include her, as the late Hopes are one of the few couples (in OR out of showbiz) to so improbably pull off the DOUBLE-centenary feat?

And keep up your diligent compiling, please!

BRYAN STYBLE/Florida

ADDENDUM:

Oh, and speaking of the Hopes, Lenona. :

You may enjoy this joke I composed, which incorporates the Lincoln-quoting title of public-intellectual Dennis Prager's finest published book, "Still the Best Hope". It's a gag I laid on Prager in person years ago:

"Dennis, I never really considered Dolores to be 'Still the Best Hope'--at least not until Bob died."

My carefully-crafted (and flawlessly-delivered!) witticism flew right over the 6'4" Prager's head--not surprisingly given his minimal familiarity with American popular culture.

Oh, and given my penchant for the positively pleasurable poetic practice of alliteration*, Lenona., perhaps my out-cue to you in the previous posting above should instead have read:

Kindly continue compiling copious collections!

STYBLE/Florida
=============
* A certain vulgar and vile (AND anonymous) e-critic of mine in these e-parts dismisses it as failed attempts at being "cute".

In article <36928291-5963-4c8e-98ff-293c4398aea9n@googlegroups.com>,
<"radioacti...@gmail.com"> wrote:

> My carefully-crafted (and flawlessly-delivered!) witticism flew right over
> the 6'4" Prager's head--not surprisingly given his minimal familiarity with
> American popular culture.

I don't care how minimally familiar Prager might have been with pop
culture. How do you not know who Bob Hope was?

Prager seems utterly clueless to me.

In article <230720230928280081%nope@noway.com>, A Friend <A Friend> wrote:
>In article <36928291-5963-4c8e-98ff-293c4398aea9n@googlegroups.com>,
><"radioacti...@gmail.com"> wrote:
>
>> My carefully-crafted (and flawlessly-delivered!) witticism flew right over
>> the 6'4" Prager's head--not surprisingly given his minimal familiarity with
>> American popular culture.
>
>
>I don't care how minimally familiar Prager might have been with pop
>culture. How do you not know who Bob Hope was?
>
>Prager seems utterly clueless to me.

It's a tough choice to say who is more obnoxious and utterly deplorable,
between Dennis Prager and Mr. BS of alt.obits.

Don't force me to make that determination.

--
Politics is show business for ugly people.

Sports is politics for stupid people.

So sorry that a fellow you've never can so inflame you, Sir McCormack; I've occasionally voiced appreciation for your own posted insights, so it's unfortunate you consider me so dimwitted as to even understand the words you craft and arguments you pointedly advance. (And you'll note I respectfully address you by your name, whereas you vulgarly cite only my initials--incorrectly, as it happens, for though I've no middle name anymore, my initials legally remain BQS.)

Now, I'm as far from a Christian as one can be (thus I don't "love my enemies")...but I DO wish you and anyone else so relentlessly ridiculing my earnest writing only good health and happiness. And I certainly don't favor you killing anyone (least of all me), but why not simply "kill-file" my prose so you are nevermore subjected to my paragraphs you find so inane and/or childish and/or stupid?

For my part, I continue to find several of YOUR postings' rotating tag-lines amusing and even thought-provoking, at least to my simpleton's mind. So I do thank you for those.

May you (and the rest of y'all herein) have a good week.

BRYAN STYBLE/Florida

At rec.arts.movies.past-films, Manfred Polak informed me of this director:

Carlo Ludovico Bragaglia (1894-1998)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_Ludovico_Bragaglia

He directed the comedies "Bluebeard's Six Wives," and "Totò le moko," among many other movies.

His movies are listed here, according to their rating.

https://www.imdb.com/filmosearch/?sort=user_rating&explore=title_type&role=nm0103855&ref_=nm_flmg_shw_rtg_ql

> It's a tough choice to say who is more obnoxious and utterly deplorable,
> between Dennis Prager and Mr. BS of alt.obits.
>
> Don't force me to make that determination.
>
> --
> Politics is show business for ugly people.
>
> Sports is politics for stupid people.

Mr. BS must be a very lonely guy that no one can stand in the "real world". So he composes these "brilliant" posts that he probably reads back to himself 50+ times and sits there gloating. While most sane people here wonder what's wrong with him and can't stomach him.

You insist in declaring me universally detested here at alt.obits, and throughout the offline world to boot. I can't read minds, so I can't dispute your savaging assessment. And I don't know you, so I can't dispute that you're beloved by all--though I suspect the many kind readers of alt.obits are long weary of your incessant nastiness toward me.

My posted words may INDEED be stupid/mindless/worthless/annoying to many herein, but that's never MY call--that dismissive judgment is reserved exclusively to those who generously devote--or simply waste--precious minutes of their lives reading my words Thus everyone who cheers your vicious view should simply "kill-file" my posts forever.

Anonymous character assassination from the shadows was one of the worst hallmarks of Stalin's reign, the most Orwellian regime in history. But I shall remain civil and polite even to my harshest critics, while laboring under my alleged crippling dimwittedness.

Good health and good luck to you.

BRYAN STYBLE/Florida

In article <cf998885-17b5-4fd7-9ec4-2ce02b8c18afn@googlegroups.com>,
mikespo@live.com <mikespo@live.com> wrote:
>
>> It's a tough choice to say who is more obnoxious and utterly deplorable,
>> between Dennis Prager and Mr. BS of alt.obits.
>>
>> Don't force me to make that determination.

>Mr. BS must be a very lonely guy that no one can stand in the "real
>world". So he composes these "brilliant" posts that he probably reads
>back to himself 50+ times and sits there gloating. While most sane
>people here wonder what's wrong with him and can't stomach him.

Or they just killfile him (as I have done).

--
"Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS
crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in
TARP money, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in
bonuses, and paid no taxes? Yeah, me neither."

Enough already. For years I've made a
point of staying out of the fray of the
personal attacks that previously drove away
many of the other regulars and practically
sank the group altogether long ago (and
I've been here since 1998) but this has
gotten completely out of hand.

I know Bryan personally.

You don't.

He is anything but "pompous", "egocentric",
"starved for attention" or any of the other
slanders with which you routinely assault
him.

On the other hand, mikespo, from what I can
determine, all you've done here since November
2018 is occasionally lob insults at the
subjects of others' obit posts (and posted
nothing in the way of useful content except
three links at the beginning of January 2019,
probably due to being hung over from New
Year's Eve) until in April 2022 you began
your singular focused crusade of doing
nothing but attacking Bryan at every turn.

If anyone has earned the descriptive language
quoted from you below it's you, not Bryan.
You come across as the classic internet troll
desperately seeking validation by pointlessly
attacking others to boost your own tender ego,
while he in turn passively tolerates your
barrage and wishes you well in the face of it.

I will not be drawn further into your nonsense
other than to say, likely on behalf of more
sane people here than you imagine back you:

Grow up, and shut up.

On 7/24/2023 4:15 PM, mikespo@live.com wrote:
>
>> It's a tough choice to say who is more obnoxious and utterly deplorable,
>> between Dennis Prager and Mr. BS of alt.obits.
>>
>> Don't force me to make that determination.
>>
>
> Mr. BS must be a very lonely guy that no one can stand in the "real world". So he composes these
> "brilliant" posts that he probably reads back to himself 50+ times and sits there gloating. While
> most sane people here wonder what's wrong with him and can't stomach him.

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 3:22:32 AM UTC-4, Bryan wrote:
> Another fascinating roster from the punctuated Lenona. !
>
> I realize Dolores Hope didn't make movies herself--at least to my sparse knowledge of early Hollywood--but couldn't you find it in your heart to also include her, as the late Hopes are one of the few couples (in OR out of showbiz) to so improbably pull off the DOUBLE-centenary feat?

Thanks, but while Dolores Hope was amazingly accomplished, almost all of what she did was outside of the movies. (Mainly, singing, recording, philanthropy, and entertaining the troops overseas.)

And, as you can see here, in the four movies she DID appear in, half the time she wasn't even credited - and in "Soup for Nuts," I'm guessing she only sang.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1052625/

In the same vein, I never had Tony Bennett on my lists, since he very rarely played any fictional characters - and no one ever called him an actor, to my knowledge. (The late, great "Mama" Cass Elliot played five characters in the last four years of her short life, but no one remembers her as an actor either.)

From Wikipedia:

"In the 1940s, Dolores began helping her husband on his tours entertaining U.S. troops overseas, and she continued to do so for over 50 years. In 1990, she was the only female entertainer allowed to perform in Saudi Arabia."

On Monday, July 24, 2023 at 8:56:14 PM UTC-4, David Samuel Barr wrote:
> Enough already. For years I've made a
> point of staying out of the fray of the
> personal attacks that previously drove away
> many of the other regulars and practically
> sank the group altogether long ago (and
> I've been here since 1998) but this has
> gotten completely out of hand.
>
> I know Bryan personally.
>
> You don't.
>
> He is anything but "pompous", "egocentric",
> "starved for attention" or any of the other
> slanders with which you routinely assault
> him.
>
> On the other hand, mikespo, from what I can
> determine, all you've done here since November
> 2018 is occasionally lob insults at the
> subjects of others' obit posts (and posted
> nothing in the way of useful content except
> three links at the beginning of January 2019,
> probably due to being hung over from New
> Year's Eve) until in April 2022 you began
> your singular focused crusade of doing
> nothing but attacking Bryan at every turn.
>
> If anyone has earned the descriptive language
> quoted from you below it's you, not Bryan.
> You come across as the classic internet troll
> desperately seeking validation by pointlessly
> attacking others to boost your own tender ego,
> while he in turn passively tolerates your
> barrage and wishes you well in the face of it.
>
> I will not be drawn further into your nonsense
> other than to say, likely on behalf of more
> sane people here than you imagine back you:
>
> Grow up, and shut up.
> On 7/24/2023 4:15 PM, mik...@live.com wrote:
> >
Too bad.

Two totally-disparate replies:

LENONA. : Much appreciate the background on Dolores Hope; didn't know she even had minor, uncredited roles, though that's not surprising given her marital place in Hollywood history. And that Saudi Arabia fact is a fascinating distinction, indeed!

Sir DAVID SAMUEL BARR: I'm so deeply touched by your comments that to adequately express my gratitude would require effusive detail...but given my (well-earned) reputation for verbosity, I'll instead distill it all down to a mere cliche of but a single--though redundantly punctuated--word: THANKS ! ! !

STYBLE/Florida

>
> Sir DAVID SAMUEL BARR: I'm so deeply touched by your comments that to adequately express my gratitude would require effusive detail...but given my (well-earned) reputation for verbosity, I'll instead distill it all down to a mere cliche of but a single--though redundantly punctuated--word: THANKS ! ! !
>
> STYBLE/Florida
"reputation for verbosity".....is that what it's called? Poor, attention-seeking guy. Forever clueless and self-absorbed.

Revised list:

Adolph Zukor (producer: Shanghai Express, 1932), 1873-1976
Estelle Winwood (The Glass Slipper, 1955) 1883-1984
George Abbott (director: Damn Yankees) 1887-1995
Irving Berlin (composer), 1888-1989
Athene Seyler (The Inn of the Sixth Happiness, 1958), 1889-1990
Hal Roach (producer: The Little Rascals), 1892-1992
Carlo Ludovico Bragaglia (director: Bluebeard's Six Wives), 1894-1998
George Burns (Oh, God!), 1896-1996
Mary Ellis (The 3 Worlds of Gulliver), 1897-2003
Irving Rapper (director: Now, Voyager), 1898-1999
Margaret Booth (editor: Romeo & Juliet, 1936) 1898-2002
Frederica Sagor Maas (writer: Flesh and the Devil, 1926), 1900-2012
Etta Moten Barnett (singer/actress: Flying Down to Rio, 1933), 1901-2004
Leni Riefenstahl (director: Triumph of the Will), 1902-2003
Bob Hope ("Road to" series), 1903-2003
Johannes Heesters (Die Fledermaus, 1946), 1903-2011
Charles Lane (It's a Wonderful Life), 1905-2007
Marie Glory (L'argent, 1928), 1905-2009
Bruce Bennett, aka Herman Brix (Tarzan, 1935), 1906-2007
Barbara Kent (Flesh and the Devil, 1926) 1907-2011
Run Run Shaw (Hong Kong producer), 1907-2014
Dercy Gonçalves (Absolutamente Certo, 1957), 1907-2008
Tullio Pinelli (writer: La Dolce Vita), 1908-2009
Jean Delannoy (director: La passion de Bernadette, 1990), 1908-2008
Manoel de Oliveira (director: I'm Going Home, 2001), 1908-2015
Robert Boyle (art director: North by Northwest), 1909-2010
Carla Laemmle (Dracula), 1909-2014
Luise Rainer (The Great Ziegfeld), 1910-2014
Gloria Stuart (The Invisible Man, 1933), 1910-2010
Paulette Dubost (The Rules of the Game, 1939), 1910-2011
Lupita Tovar (1931 Spanish version of Dracula), 1911-2016
Wally Cassell (White Heat, 1949), 1912-2015
Kaneto Shindô (director: The Naked Island, 1960), 1912-2012
Douglas Slocombe (cinematographer: Raiders of the Lost Ark), 1913–2016
Elmo Williams (producer and Oscar-winning editor: High Noon), 1913–2015
Richard L. Bare (director: TV's Green Acres), 1913–2015
Herb Jeffries (The Bronze Buckaroo, 1939), 1913-2014
Ellen Albertini Dow (Wedding Crashers), 1913–2015
Marc Platt (Seven Brides for Seven Brothers), 1913–2014
Mary Carlisle (College Humor, 1933) 1914-2018
Olaf Pooley (TV's Dr. Who, 1970), 1914–2015
Norman Lloyd (Saboteur, 1942), 1914-2021
Amelia Bence (The Gaucho War, 1942), 1914–2016
Patricia Morison (Dressed to Kill, 1946), 1915-2018
Leslie H. Martinson, (director: Batman: The Movie, 1966), 1915–2016
Vladimir Zeldin, (Ten Little Indians, 1987) 1915–2016
Jack Rollins (producer, Annie Hall), 1915-2015
Van Alexander, (composer/conductor: TV's I Dream of Jeannie), 1915–2015
Harry Rabinowitz, (composer/conductor: The Talented Mr. Ripley) 1916–2016
Olivia de Havilland (Gone with the Wind), 1916-2020
Jean Rouverol (It's a Gift, 1934), 1916-2017
Kirk Douglas (Spartacus), 1916-2020
Danielle Darrieux (The Earrings of Madame De..., 1953) 1917-2017
Marsha Hunt (Smash-Up: The Story of a Woman, 1947) 1917-2022
Shinobu Hashimoto (screenwriter: Rashomon), 1918-2018
Artur Brauner (producer: Europa Europa), 1918-2019
Caren Marsh (The Wizard of Oz), alive
Marge Champion (dancer & model for Snow White), 1919-2020
Norma Barzman (screenwriter: Never Say Goodbye, 1946), alive
Bill Butler (cinematographer: Jaws), 1921-2023
Walter Mirisch (producer: West Side Story, 1961), 1921-2023
Norman Lear (producer: TV's All in the Family), alive
Micheline Presle (Devil in the Flesh, 1947), alive
Janis Paige (Silk Stockings, 1957), alive
Bert I. Gordon (director: Empire of the Ants, 1977), 1922-2023
Jacqueline White (Crossfire, 1947), alive
Stan Waterman (producer: Blue Water, White Death, 1971), alive