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* Help with sending email about a new post.Userme
+* Re: Help with sending email about a new post.TonyCooper
|+- Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Athel Cornish-Bowden
|`* Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Paul Carmichael
| +* Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Athel Cornish-Bowden
| |`* Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Peter Moylan
| | +* Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Peter T. Daniels
| | |`* Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Peter Moylan
| | | +- Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Peter T. Daniels
| | | `* Re: Help with sending email about a new post.TonyCooper
| | |  `- Re: Help with sending email about a new post.TonyCooper
| | +* Re: Help with sending email about a new post.lar3ryca
| | |+- Re: Help with sending email about a new post.bozo de niro
| | |`* Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Kerr-Mudd, John
| | | +* Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Sam Plusnet
| | | |`- Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Snidely
| | | `- Re: Help with sending email about a new post.lar3ryca
| | +- Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Ken Blake
| | `- Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Paul Carmichael
| `* Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Snidely
|  `* Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Paul Carmichael
|   `* Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Athel Cornish-Bowden
|    +- Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Peter T. Daniels
|    +* Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Paul Carmichael
|    |`- Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Peter Moylan
|    +- Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Sam Plusnet
|    `* Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Snidely
|     +- Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Athel Cornish-Bowden
|     `- Re: Help with sending email about a new post.lar3ryca
`- Re: Help with sending email about a new post.Ken Blake

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 by: Userme - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 00:58 UTC

Hi
My supervisor sent an email to all asking if anyone interested in applying for a new post job then to reach out to him so he can give us some hints about the job etc. How can I reply to his email, is the following good email? How would you write it yourself? Thank you very much.

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Hi John Doe

Thanks for your heads up. I am interested in applying for the new training position and I would appreciate any hint, feedback, advises etc. to prepare for that position.

Thank you

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 by: TonyCooper - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 03:26 UTC

On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 17:58:57 -0700 (PDT), Userme <lezawang@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Hi
>My supervisor sent an email to all asking if anyone interested in applying for a new post job then to reach out to him so he can give us some hints about the job etc. How can I reply to his email, is the following good email? How would you write it yourself? Thank you very much.
>
>++++
>Hi John Doe
>
>Thanks for your heads up. I am interested in applying for the new training position and I would appreciate any hint, feedback, advises etc. to prepare for that position.
>
>Thank you

Your salutation is a combination of highly informal (Hi) and very
formal (first and last name). It should be either "Hi, John" if you
are on a first-name basis with him or simply "John:". Or, it should
be "Dear Mr Doe:". If the email is addressed to him, it's really not
necessary to use a salutation. His name is in the address line.

Change to: hints, feedback, or advice. ("advises" is a verb and
"advice" is a noun) I would eliminate "etc.". I prefer
"suggestions" to "hints", but that's your choice.

I assume you have access to a dictionary. You should look up words
like "advice" and "advise" so you know the difference and what to use
next time without relying on this group to proofread for you.

While it's not in the proposed email, "post" and "job" are synonymous
in this context. Use one or the other. Again, start looking these
words up for your own future information.

I am not going to make any changes or additions to your email other
than correcting errors. This email should be your thinking, not ours.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

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 by: Athel Cornish-Bowden - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 07:26 UTC

On 2023-07-05 03:26:24 +0000, TonyCooper said:

> On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 17:58:57 -0700 (PDT), Userme <lezawang@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> [ … ]
>>

>> ++++
>> Hi John Doe
>>
>> Thanks for your heads up. I am interested in applying for the new
>> training position and I would appreciate any hint, feedback, advises
>> etc. to prepare for that position.
>>
>> Thank you
>
>
> [ … ]
>
> I assume you have access to a dictionary. You should look up words
> like "advice" and "advise" so you know the difference and what to use
> next time without relying on this group to proofread for you.

Also note that "advices" doesn't exist as a normal word, because like
most (all?) abstract nouns "advice" doesn't have a plural. Most of the
time it doen't need one, but when it does you can say something like
"words of advice".

A word French people often use when writing in English is
"informations". No good; it doesn't exist. If necessary you can say
"pieces of information".

Although "news" looks like a plural it isn't an exception, because it's
normally treated as singular: "The news from Ukraine is worrying". When
I first knew her my wife used to say "a new", but not now.

--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

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 by: Paul Carmichael - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 08:16 UTC

El Tue, 04 Jul 2023 23:26:24 -0400, TonyCooper escribió:

> On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 17:58:57 -0700 (PDT), Userme <lezawang@gmail.com>
> wrote:

>>Hi John Doe
>>
>>Thanks for your heads up. I am interested in applying for the new
>>training position and I would appreciate any hint, feedback, advises
>>etc. to prepare for that position.
>>
>>Thank you
>
> Your salutation is a combination of highly informal (Hi) and very formal
> (first and last name).

And anyone using that expression "heads up" should be stabbed in the eye.
Another horrible americanism.

--
Paul.

https://paulc.es

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 by: Athel Cornish-Bowden - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 09:08 UTC

On 2023-07-05 08:16:45 +0000, Paul Carmichael said:

> El Tue, 04 Jul 2023 23:26:24 -0400, TonyCooper escribió:
>
>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 17:58:57 -0700 (PDT), Userme <lezawang@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>
>>> Hi John Doe
>>>
>>> Thanks for your heads up. I am interested in applying for the new
>>> training position and I would appreciate any hint, feedback, advises
>>> etc. to prepare for that position.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>
>> Your salutation is a combination of highly informal (Hi) and very formal
>> (first and last name).
>
> And anyone using that expression "heads up" should be stabbed in the eye.
> Another horrible americanism.

+1

--
athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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 by: Peter Moylan - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 10:48 UTC

On 05/07/23 19:08, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2023-07-05 08:16:45 +0000, Paul Carmichael said:
>
>> El Tue, 04 Jul 2023 23:26:24 -0400, TonyCooper escribió:
>>
>>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 17:58:57 -0700 (PDT), Userme <lezawang@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Hi John Doe
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your heads up. I am interested in applying for the new
>>>> training position and I would appreciate any hint, feedback, advises
>>>> etc. to prepare for that position.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> Your salutation is a combination of highly informal (Hi) and very formal
>>> (first and last name).
>>
>> And anyone using that expression "heads up" should be stabbed in the eye.
>> Another horrible americanism.
>
> +1

Yes, I hope it disappears going forward.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 13:40 UTC

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 6:48:43 AM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 05/07/23 19:08, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> > On 2023-07-05 08:16:45 +0000, Paul Carmichael said:

> >> And anyone using that expression "heads up" should be stabbed in the eye.
> >> Another horrible americanism.
> > +1
> Yes, I hope it disappears going forward.

Haven't heard it in years. Youse guys nurse your grudges for decades.

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 by: Peter Moylan - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 14:06 UTC

On 05/07/23 23:40, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 6:48:43 AM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
>> On 05/07/23 19:08, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>> On 2023-07-05 08:16:45 +0000, Paul Carmichael said:
>
>>>> And anyone using that expression "heads up" should be stabbed
>>>> in the eye. Another horrible americanism.
>>> +1
>> Yes, I hope it disappears going forward.
>
> Haven't heard it in years. Youse guys nurse your grudges for
> decades.

It was only a week or two ago that I saw "going forward" in a text
generated by an AI, as cited in this very newsgroup.

And "heads up" can be found in this thread. But perhaps it's still
current in whatever country Userme works in.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 14:35 UTC

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 10:06:53 AM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 05/07/23 23:40, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 6:48:43 AM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
> >> On 05/07/23 19:08, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> >>> On 2023-07-05 08:16:45 +0000, Paul Carmichael said:

> >>>> And anyone using that expression "heads up" should be stabbed
> >>>> in the eye. Another horrible americanism.
> >>> +1
> >> Yes, I hope it disappears going forward.
> > Haven't heard it in years. Youse guys nurse your grudges for
> > decades.
>
> It was only a week or two ago that I saw "going forward" in a text
> generated by an AI, as cited in this very newsgroup.

Not at issue here.

> And "heads up" can be found in this thread. But perhaps it's still
> current in whatever country Userme works in.

She is not a native speaker of American English. Clearly she picked
it up from somewhere -- maybe even a Brit complaining about the
supposed obnoxious Americanism.

(Howcome Brits get all huffy when Briticisms are complained about?
Some of them seem still to think they own the language.)

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 by: TonyCooper - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 15:21 UTC

On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 00:06:45 +1000, Peter Moylan
<peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

>On 05/07/23 23:40, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 6:48:43?AM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>> On 05/07/23 19:08, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>>> On 2023-07-05 08:16:45 +0000, Paul Carmichael said:
>>
>>>>> And anyone using that expression "heads up" should be stabbed
>>>>> in the eye. Another horrible americanism.
>>>> +1
>>> Yes, I hope it disappears going forward.
>>
>> Haven't heard it in years. Youse guys nurse your grudges for
>> decades.
>
>It was only a week or two ago that I saw "going forward" in a text
>generated by an AI, as cited in this very newsgroup.
>
>And "heads up" can be found in this thread. But perhaps it's still
>current in whatever country Userme works in.

It's still current in the US, though evidently not used in the sources
PTD has access to.

It's an informal term, and thus more suited for private communication
between individuals so it might not be noticed as current if you only
read/hear articles/speech prepared for wider distribution.

Not that it is restricted to private communication. Anyone capable of
"research"* can find instances of it used currently in wider
application. For example,

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/press-gaggle-press-secretary-karine-jean-pierre-22

The above link takes you a transcript of a press gaggle by White House
Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre. You have to scroll down, but you
will find:

"And he was -- his chief of staff, Jeff Zients, let him know what
occurred through media reports, just like -- again, just like all of
you found out. Was not given a heads up. Again, through media reports,
that's how we learned about the -- about -- about the indictment
yesterday."

In that secret "lingo" of academia that PTD refers to, it's called a
"trigger warning".

https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2016/09/07/492979242/half-of-professors-in-npr-ed-survey-have-used-trigger-warnings

where you will find:

"But the rules are different in a college classroom than in a
therapeutic setting, and both are different than when addressing a
general audience. Even some of our respondents who had supplied a form
of trigger warning as a "courtesy" or "heads-up" said they didn't
intend to give students a free pass to avoid uncomfortable topics."

*Research: The art of typing in search terms.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

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 by: lar3ryca - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 15:34 UTC

On 2023-07-05 04:48, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 05/07/23 19:08, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>> On 2023-07-05 08:16:45 +0000, Paul Carmichael said:
>>
>>> El Tue, 04 Jul 2023 23:26:24 -0400, TonyCooper escribió:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 17:58:57 -0700 (PDT), Userme <lezawang@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Hi John Doe
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your heads up. I am interested in applying for the new
>>>>> training position and I would appreciate any hint, feedback, advises
>>>>> etc. to prepare for that position.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>> Your salutation is a combination of highly informal (Hi) and very
>>>> formal
>>>> (first and last name).
>>>
>>> And anyone using that expression "heads up" should be stabbed in the
>>> eye.
>>> Another horrible americanism.
>>
>> +1
>
> Yes, I hope it disappears going forward.

From this point in time?

--
Some people are like a Slinky toy - not really good for anything, but
you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.

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 by: Ken Blake - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 16:05 UTC

On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 17:58:57 -0700 (PDT), Userme <lezawang@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Hi
>My supervisor sent an email to all asking if anyone interested in applying for a new post job then to reach out to him so he can give us some hints about the job etc. How can I reply to his email, is the following good email? How would you write it yourself? Thank you very much.
>
>++++
>Hi John Doe
>
>Thanks for your heads up. I am interested in applying for the new training position and I would appreciate any hint, feedback, advises etc. to prepare for that position.

With four corrections, it should be fine: "heads up" would be better
as "heads-up," "hint" would be better as "hints," "advises" should be
"advice," and there should be a comma before "etc."

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 by: Ken Blake - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 16:08 UTC

On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 20:48:34 +1000, Peter Moylan
<peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

>On 05/07/23 19:08, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>> On 2023-07-05 08:16:45 +0000, Paul Carmichael said:
>>
>>> El Tue, 04 Jul 2023 23:26:24 -0400, TonyCooper escribió:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 17:58:57 -0700 (PDT), Userme <lezawang@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Hi John Doe
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your heads up. I am interested in applying for the new
>>>>> training position and I would appreciate any hint, feedback, advises
>>>>> etc. to prepare for that position.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>> Your salutation is a combination of highly informal (Hi) and very formal
>>>> (first and last name).
>>>
>>> And anyone using that expression "heads up" should be stabbed in the eye.
>>> Another horrible americanism.
>>
>> +1
>
>Yes, I hope it disappears going forward.

It doesn't bother me as much as it does the three of you. I wouldn't
write it if it were my letter, but I don't think it's terrible there.

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 by: TonyCooper - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 16:41 UTC

On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 11:21:35 -0400, TonyCooper
<tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 00:06:45 +1000, Peter Moylan
><peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On 05/07/23 23:40, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 6:48:43?AM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>>> On 05/07/23 19:08, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-07-05 08:16:45 +0000, Paul Carmichael said:
>>>
>>>>>> And anyone using that expression "heads up" should be stabbed
>>>>>> in the eye. Another horrible americanism.
>>>>> +1
>>>> Yes, I hope it disappears going forward.
>>>
>>> Haven't heard it in years. Youse guys nurse your grudges for
>>> decades.
>>
>>It was only a week or two ago that I saw "going forward" in a text
>>generated by an AI, as cited in this very newsgroup.
>>
>>And "heads up" can be found in this thread. But perhaps it's still
>>current in whatever country Userme works in.
>
>It's still current in the US, though evidently not used in the sources
>PTD has access to.
>
>It's an informal term, and thus more suited for private communication
>between individuals so it might not be noticed as current if you only
>read/hear articles/speech prepared for wider distribution.
>
>Not that it is restricted to private communication. Anyone capable of
>"research"* can find instances of it used currently in wider
>application. For example,
>
>https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/press-gaggle-press-secretary-karine-jean-pierre-22
>
>The above link takes you a transcript of a press gaggle by White House
>Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre. You have to scroll down, but you
>will find:
>
>"And he was -- his chief of staff, Jeff Zients, let him know what
>occurred through media reports, just like -- again, just like all of
>you found out. Was not given a heads up. Again, through media reports,
>that's how we learned about the -- about -- about the indictment
>yesterday."
>
>
>In that secret "lingo" of academia that PTD refers to, it's called a
>"trigger warning".
>
>https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2016/09/07/492979242/half-of-professors-in-npr-ed-survey-have-used-trigger-warnings
>
>where you will find:
>
>"But the rules are different in a college classroom than in a
>therapeutic setting, and both are different than when addressing a
>general audience. Even some of our respondents who had supplied a form
>of trigger warning as a "courtesy" or "heads-up" said they didn't
>intend to give students a free pass to avoid uncomfortable topics."
>
>*Research: The art of typing in search terms.

Sometimes you don't even need to do "research".

After posting the above I went to today's _Washington Post_ in my
email and read an article about a Georgia teacher who is being fired
for reading a children's book in class that contains passages about
gender identity.

The article - in the form of an "Opinion" piece, includes:

"We think it’s reasonable to debate whether parents of fifth-graders
deserve a heads-up on a lesson about a book like this. And we
understand that a parent might not want their fifth-grader to undergo
such a lesson. These matters will be litigated during Rinderle’s
hearing in August."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/07/05/georgia-teacher-termination-gender-identity-maga-desantis-trump/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

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 by: bozo de niro - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 18:00 UTC

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 8:34:52 AM UTC-7, lar3ryca wrote:
> On 2023-07-05 04:48, Peter Moylan wrote:
> > On 05/07/23 19:08, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> >> On 2023-07-05 08:16:45 +0000, Paul Carmichael said:
> >>
> >>> El Tue, 04 Jul 2023 23:26:24 -0400, TonyCooper escribió:
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 17:58:57 -0700 (PDT), Userme <leza...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Hi John Doe
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for your heads up. I am interested in applying for the new
> >>>>> training position and I would appreciate any hint, feedback, advises
> >>>>> etc. to prepare for that position.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you
> >>>>
> >>>> Your salutation is a combination of highly informal (Hi) and very
> >>>> formal
> >>>> (first and last name).
> >>>
> >>> And anyone using that expression "heads up" should be stabbed in the
> >>> eye.
> >>> Another horrible americanism.
> >>
> >> +1
> >
> > Yes, I hope it disappears going forward.
> From this point in time?
>
> --
> Some people are like a Slinky toy - not really good for anything, but
> you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.

lol cruelly.

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 by: Kerr-Mudd, John - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 18:13 UTC

On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 09:34:46 -0600
lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:

> On 2023-07-05 04:48, Peter Moylan wrote:
> > On 05/07/23 19:08, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> >> On 2023-07-05 08:16:45 +0000, Paul Carmichael said:
> >>
> >>> El Tue, 04 Jul 2023 23:26:24 -0400, TonyCooper escribió:
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 17:58:57 -0700 (PDT), Userme <lezawang@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Hi John Doe
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for your heads up. I am interested in applying for the new
> >>>>> training position and I would appreciate any hint, feedback, advises
> >>>>> etc. to prepare for that position.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you
> >>>>
> >>>> Your salutation is a combination of highly informal (Hi) and very
> >>>> formal
> >>>> (first and last name).
> >>>
> >>> And anyone using that expression "heads up" should be stabbed in the
> >>> eye.
> >>> Another horrible americanism.
> >>
> >> +1
> >
> > Yes, I hope it disappears going forward.
>
> From this point in time?
>
Well, the answers in the right ballpark, but we might need to run it up
the flagpole and see who salutes it.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 20:11 UTC

On 05/07/2023 19:13, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 09:34:46 -0600
> lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-07-05 04:48, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>> On 05/07/23 19:08, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>>> On 2023-07-05 08:16:45 +0000, Paul Carmichael said:
>>>>
>>>>> El Tue, 04 Jul 2023 23:26:24 -0400, TonyCooper escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 17:58:57 -0700 (PDT), Userme <lezawang@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi John Doe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your heads up. I am interested in applying for the new
>>>>>>> training position and I would appreciate any hint, feedback, advises
>>>>>>> etc. to prepare for that position.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your salutation is a combination of highly informal (Hi) and very
>>>>>> formal
>>>>>> (first and last name).
>>>>>
>>>>> And anyone using that expression "heads up" should be stabbed in the
>>>>> eye.
>>>>> Another horrible americanism.
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>
>>> Yes, I hope it disappears going forward.
>>
>> From this point in time?
>>
> Well, the answers in the right ballpark, but we might need to run it up
> the flagpole and see who salutes it.
>

Have you tried running up a flagpole?

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 by: lar3ryca - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 22:20 UTC

On 2023-07-05 12:13, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 09:34:46 -0600
> lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-07-05 04:48, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>> On 05/07/23 19:08, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>>> On 2023-07-05 08:16:45 +0000, Paul Carmichael said:
>>>>
>>>>> El Tue, 04 Jul 2023 23:26:24 -0400, TonyCooper escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 17:58:57 -0700 (PDT), Userme <lezawang@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi John Doe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your heads up. I am interested in applying for the new
>>>>>>> training position and I would appreciate any hint, feedback, advises
>>>>>>> etc. to prepare for that position.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your salutation is a combination of highly informal (Hi) and very
>>>>>> formal
>>>>>> (first and last name).
>>>>>
>>>>> And anyone using that expression "heads up" should be stabbed in the
>>>>> eye.
>>>>> Another horrible americanism.
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>
>>> Yes, I hope it disappears going forward.
>>
>> From this point in time?
>>
> Well, the answers in the right ballpark, but we might need to run it up
> the flagpole and see who salutes it.

Fine by me, as long as we are on the same page at the end of the day.

--
We have enough youth, how about a Fountain of Smart?

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 by: Paul Carmichael - Thu, 6 Jul 2023 06:21 UTC

El Wed, 05 Jul 2023 20:48:34 +1000, Peter Moylan escribió:

> On 05/07/23 19:08, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>> On 2023-07-05 08:16:45 +0000, Paul Carmichael said:
>>
>>> El Tue, 04 Jul 2023 23:26:24 -0400, TonyCooper escribió:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 17:58:57 -0700 (PDT), Userme <lezawang@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Hi John Doe
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your heads up. I am interested in applying for the new
>>>>> training position and I would appreciate any hint, feedback, advises
>>>>> etc. to prepare for that position.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>> Your salutation is a combination of highly informal (Hi) and very
>>>> formal (first and last name).
>>>
>>> And anyone using that expression "heads up" should be stabbed in the
>>> eye.
>>> Another horrible americanism.
>>
>> +1
>
> Yes, I hope it disappears going forward.

And if one more person thanks me for "reaching out", when all I've done
is ask them something, I may well stab myself in the eye. It's obviously
all my fault.

--
Paul.

https://paulc.es

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 by: Snidely - Thu, 6 Jul 2023 08:01 UTC

Paul Carmichael asserted that:
> El Tue, 04 Jul 2023 23:26:24 -0400, TonyCooper escribió:
>
>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 17:58:57 -0700 (PDT), Userme <lezawang@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>
>>> Hi John Doe
>>>
>>> Thanks for your heads up. I am interested in applying for the new
>>> training position and I would appreciate any hint, feedback, advises
>>> etc. to prepare for that position.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>
>> Your salutation is a combination of highly informal (Hi) and very formal
>> (first and last name).
>
> And anyone using that expression "heads up" should be stabbed in the eye.
> Another horrible americanism.

Shall we boil a few horrible briticisms?

And properly, the usage calls for a hyphen: heads-up, as it's a noun
in the OP's sentence.

/dps "If your HUD gets lost, duck!"

--
Writing a haiku is<br>Like painting a picture with<br>Words that come
in threes.<br>
Here’s an example:<br>Writing a haiku is<br>Simple yet challenging
too<br>
Words flow like water.<br> (Bing AI)

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 by: Snidely - Thu, 6 Jul 2023 08:04 UTC

Remember Wednesday, when Sam Plusnet asked plaintively:
> On 05/07/2023 19:13, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 09:34:46 -0600
>> lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2023-07-05 04:48, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>>> On 05/07/23 19:08, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-07-05 08:16:45 +0000, Paul Carmichael said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> El Tue, 04 Jul 2023 23:26:24 -0400, TonyCooper escribió:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 17:58:57 -0700 (PDT), Userme <lezawang@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi John Doe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your heads up. I am interested in applying for the new
>>>>>>>> training position and I would appreciate any hint, feedback, advises
>>>>>>>> etc. to prepare for that position.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your salutation is a combination of highly informal (Hi) and very
>>>>>>> formal
>>>>>>> (first and last name).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And anyone using that expression "heads up" should be stabbed in the
>>>>>> eye.
>>>>>> Another horrible americanism.
>>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I hope it disappears going forward.
>>>
>>> From this point in time?
>>>
>> Well, the answers in the right ballpark, but we might need to run it up
>> the flagpole and see who salutes it.
>>
>
> Have you tried running up a flagpole?

Hey, it's tough enough getting your tongue off it on a winter's day.

-d

--
And the Raiders and the Broncos have life now in the West. I thought
they were both nearly dead if not quite really most sincerely dead. --
Mike Salfino, fivethirtyeight.com

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 by: Paul Carmichael - Thu, 6 Jul 2023 10:10 UTC

El Thu, 06 Jul 2023 01:01:15 -0700, Snidely escribió:

> Paul Carmichael asserted that:
>> El Tue, 04 Jul 2023 23:26:24 -0400, TonyCooper escribió:
>>
>>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 17:58:57 -0700 (PDT), Userme <lezawang@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Hi John Doe
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your heads up. I am interested in applying for the new
>>>> training position and I would appreciate any hint, feedback, advises
>>>> etc. to prepare for that position.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> Your salutation is a combination of highly informal (Hi) and very
>>> formal (first and last name).
>>
>> And anyone using that expression "heads up" should be stabbed in the
>> eye.
>> Another horrible americanism.
>
> Shall we boil a few horrible briticisms?

A bit of history: I was a victim of an IT takeover. I worked for a very
British small outfit called DrSolomon Anti-virus. We were very proud of
producing the world's best AV software. In Britain. It was very friendly
and informal whilst being efficient and productive.

Then the Americans bought the company.

All of a sudden managers became vice-presidents and the boss became a CEO.

People started giving each other heads-ups and reaching out to each other.

And no, my name is not Paal, it's Paul.

I stayed long enough to cash in my share options and pay off my mortgage.

This was over 20 years ago.

Those that chose to lick arse became VPs and are now quite rich. I'm not
envious.

The whole experience made me a tad anti-americanisms.

But hell, I paid off my mortgage at 42 y/o :-)

--
Paul.

https://paulc.es

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 by: Athel Cornish-Bowden - Thu, 6 Jul 2023 11:33 UTC

On 2023-07-06 10:10:51 +0000, Paul Carmichael said:

> El Thu, 06 Jul 2023 01:01:15 -0700, Snidely escribió:
>
>> Paul Carmichael asserted that:
>>> El Tue, 04 Jul 2023 23:26:24 -0400, TonyCooper escribió:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 17:58:57 -0700 (PDT), Userme <lezawang@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Hi John Doe
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your heads up. I am interested in applying for the new
>>>>> training position and I would appreciate any hint, feedback, advises
>>>>> etc. to prepare for that position.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>> Your salutation is a combination of highly informal (Hi) and very
>>>> formal (first and last name).
>>>
>>> And anyone using that expression "heads up" should be stabbed in the
>>> eye.
>>> Another horrible americanism.
>>
>> Shall we boil a few horrible briticisms?
>
> A bit of history: I was a victim of an IT takeover. I worked for a very
> British small outfit called DrSolomon Anti-virus. We were very proud of
> producing the world's best AV software. In Britain. It was very friendly
> and informal whilst being efficient and productive.
>
> Then the Americans bought the company.
>
> All of a sudden managers became vice-presidents and the boss became a CEO.
>
> People started giving each other heads-ups and reaching out to each other.
>
> And no, my name is not Paal, it's Paul.
>
> I stayed long enough to cash in my share options and pay off my mortgage.
>
> This was over 20 years ago.
>
> Those that chose to lick arse became VPs and are now quite rich. I'm not
> envious.
>
> The whole experience made me a tad anti-americanisms.
>
> But hell, I paid off my mortgage at 42 y/o :-)

Another bit of history, different but also connected with mortgages.
People usually refer to inflation as a Bad Thing, but sometimes it can
bring big advantages to lucky people. When bought our first house in
Birmingham in 1971 it cost, I think (but I may be wrong by a factor of
2), about £6500. When we sold it in 1977 it fetched about £13000. So,
despite having paid off almost none of the mortgage, the galloping
inflation of the 1970s meant that we went from owning about 5% of a
house to owning about 55% of a house.

--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 36 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

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On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 7:33:17 AM UTC-4, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

> Another bit of history, different but also connected with mortgages.
> People usually refer to inflation as a Bad Thing, but sometimes it can
> bring big advantages to lucky people. When bought our first house in
> Birmingham in 1971 it cost, I think (but I may be wrong by a factor of
> 2), about £6500. When we sold it in 1977 it fetched about £13000. So,
> despite having paid off almost none of the mortgage, the galloping
> inflation of the 1970s meant that we went from owning about 5% of a
> house to owning about 55% of a house.

OTOH, thanks to the gentrification of the neighborhood, my house is
now valued at about thrice the purchase price.

Do you have the "reverse mortgage" quasi-scam Over There?

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 by: Paul Carmichael - Thu, 6 Jul 2023 14:44 UTC

El Thu, 06 Jul 2023 13:33:11 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden escribió:

> Another bit of history, different but also connected with mortgages.
> People usually refer to inflation as a Bad Thing, but sometimes it can
> bring big advantages to lucky people. When bought our first house in
> Birmingham in 1971 it cost, I think (but I may be wrong by a factor of
> 2), about £6500. When we sold it in 1977 it fetched about £13000. So,
> despite having paid off almost none of the mortgage, the galloping
> inflation of the 1970s meant that we went from owning about 5% of a
> house to owning about 55% of a house.

In the UK house inflation carried on until the turn of the century. We
were the generation(s) that did well. "Bricks and mortar", that's what my
dad always said. And it was true for us. Gone now.

--
Paul.

https://paulc.es


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