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* recent daysarthurvv vart
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+* Re: recent daysPeter T. Daniels
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| `- Re: recent daysPeter T. Daniels
`- Re: recent daysJerry Friedman

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 by: arthurvv vart - Tue, 4 Jul 2023 22:47 UTC

1) I am talking about the events in the recent days.
2) I am talking about the events in the past days.

In which case the 'days' might not include yesterday?

In other words in which case the events might have ended
the day before yesterday (or even two days before yesterday)?

Gratefully,
Navi

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 by: Mark Brader - Tue, 4 Jul 2023 22:58 UTC

"Navi":
> 1) I am talking about the events in the recent days.

Delete the second "the", except in an unusual context referring to
days from a previous established list.

> 2) I am talking about the events in the past days.
>
> In which case the 'days' might not include yesterday?
>
> In other words in which case the events might have ended
> the day before yesterday (or even two days before yesterday)?

Questions in English normally require an inversion. You mean
"might the 'days'" and "might the events have ended".

In both cases the "days" include yesterday, but the events might
have ended before yesterday.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto Attenton to dteail; thats' the secreg.
msb@vex.net --Robin Bignall

My text in this article is in the public domain.

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Subject: Re: recent days
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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 13:24 UTC

On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 6:47:41 PM UTC-4, arthurvv vart wrote:

> 1) I am talking about the events in the recent days.
> 2) I am talking about the events in the past days.
>
> In which case the 'days' might not include yesterday?

Change "in the" to "of" and you'd have a couple of sentences.

Move "might" before "the."

Answer: none.
> In other words in which case the events might have ended
> the day before yesterday (or even two days before yesterday)?

None.

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Subject: Re: recent days
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 by: Lionel Edwards - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 13:46 UTC

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 2:24:29 PM UTC+1, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 6:47:41 PM UTC-4, arthurvv vart wrote:
>
> > 1) I am talking about the events in the recent days.
> > 2) I am talking about the events in the past days.
> >
> > In which case the 'days' might not include yesterday?
> Change "in the" to "of" and you'd have a couple of sentences.
>
> Move "might" before "the."
>
> Answer: none.
> > In other words in which case the events might have ended
> > the day before yesterday (or even two days before yesterday)?
> None.

Mark says the opposite and I agree with his interpretation:

"In both cases the 'days' include yesterday, but the events might
have ended before yesterday."

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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 14:30 UTC

On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 9:46:49 AM UTC-4, Lionel Edwards wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 2:24:29 PM UTC+1, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 6:47:41 PM UTC-4, arthurvv vart wrote:
> >
> > > 1) I am talking about the events in the recent days.
> > > 2) I am talking about the events in the past days.
> > >
> > > In which case the 'days' might not include yesterday?
> > Change "in the" to "of" and you'd have a couple of sentences.
> >
> > Move "might" before "the."
> >
> > Answer: none.
> > > In other words in which case the events might have ended
> > > the day before yesterday (or even two days before yesterday)?
> > None.
> Mark says the opposite and I agree with his interpretation:
>
> "In both cases the 'days' include yesterday, but the events might
> have ended before yesterday."

Interpretation of "might." I was reacting to "might not have included
yesterday" -- which of course they do, unless something in the context
(arthur-Navi doesn't do context) prevented it.

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 by: Jerry Friedman - Wed, 5 Jul 2023 14:38 UTC

On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 4:47:41 PM UTC-6, arthurvv vart wrote:
> 1) I am talking about the events in the recent days.
> 2) I am talking about the events in the past days.

I'm used to "in recent days" and "in the past few/several days".
> In which case the 'days' might not include yesterday?
>
> In other words in which case the events might have ended
> the day before yesterday (or even two days before yesterday)?

All of them.

--
Jerry Friedman

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