On Jul 8, 2023, azigni wrote on alt.religion.shamanism
(in article <0AoqM.104853$edN3.21876@fx14.iad>):

> Something way off topic as of late, though a serious question.
>
> There was a 'situation' I thought was not all it should be and
> considered taking steps to correct it. I was not part of the situation,
> but had not come to a decision.
>
> That night, I suddenly woke from dreaming, and in my dream I was indeed
> taking steps to correct the,'situation'.
>
> The next day, the 'situation' was corrected and all was good in the
> neighborhood. I did not think any more of it.
>
> Now, two days later, I just remembered my dream and what I was doing in
> it.
>
> Your thoughts?

Well, there is a strong connection between lucid dreaming
and out of body travel, and out of body travel, or shamanic
journeying, is a core part of shamanism. So I don’t think
it is off-topic on alt.religion.shamanism , unlike a lot of
my Sisyphean moon rock rolling attempts stuff.

Related to such stuff, as part of my assisted shaktipat
the assisted shaktipat recipients will gain 1/3 strength
out of body travel special ability. If they already have
wide range magickal special ability (with 1/3 strength)
that will give them 2/3 strength. If they already have
out of body travel special ability they will get 4/3 strength.
If they already have psychedelic drug enhanceable
ability they will have 4/3 strength while enhanced and
1/3 strength while not enhanced.

--
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"This could be the final breath; This is life and death;
This is hard rock and water; Out here between wind and flame;
Between tears and elation; Lies a secret nation" (Ron Hynes)

On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 8:51:06 PM UTC-5, David Dalton wrote:
> On Jul 8, 2023, azigni wrote on alt.religion.shamanism
> (in article <0AoqM.<snip>.iad>):
<snip>

> > There was a 'situation' I thought was not all it should be and considered taking steps to correct it. I was not part of the situation, but had not come to a decision.

> > That night, I suddenly woke from dreaming, and in my dream I was indeed taking steps to correct the,'situation'.

> > The next day, the 'situation' was corrected and all was good in the neighborhood. I did not think any more of it.

> > Now, two days later, I just remembered my dream and what I was doing in it.

> > Your thoughts?
>
> Well, there is a strong connection between lucid dreaming and out of body travel, and out of body travel, or shamanic journeying, is a core part of shamanism. So I don’t think it is off-topic on alt.religion.shamanism , unlike a lot of my Sisyphean moon rock rolling attempts stuff.

Hey David, long time, no chat. Still soliciting your possessive content? ("my Sisyphean moon rock")

> Related to such stuff, as part of my assisted shaktipat the assisted shaktipat recipients will gain 1/3 strength out of body travel special ability. If they already have wide range magickal special ability (with 1/3 strength) that will give them 2/3 strength. If they already have out of body travel special ability they will get 4/3 strength.
> If they already have psychedelic drug enhanceable ability they will have 4/3 strength while enhanced and 1/3 strength while not enhanced.

That sounds worthy of writing into a D&D players handbook (or possibly a DM guide.)

> <snip> dalton/dtales<snip> Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> "This could be the final breath; This is life and death;
> This is hard rock and water; Out here between wind and flame;
> Between tears and elation; Lies a secret nation" (Ron Hynes)

Poetic, perhaps. I prefer logical truth, such as:
Unity *includes* duality; duality *excludes* Unity.
(Love loves [love AND hate]; hate hates [love AND hate].)
The donut includes the hole; the hole is NOT the donut (etc.)

As to what the original post was addressing, Jesus Himself teaches [Reality Conforms to Thought] in Matthew 9:29 and also [The Thought is the Same as the Act] in Matthew 5:28. (See also: DiscussingJesus.quora.com )

Seeing as how it's been awhile since we've chatted, here's something I found that you *may* find of interest:

Jesus reveals the "key" of ALL existence in Matthew 5:44, "Love thine enemies" (from the Greek, [Ἀγαπᾶτε τοὺς ἐχθροὺς ὑμῶν] / [agapate tous echthrous hymōn] / [love the enemies of you] aka [1❤️0].)

Love is the key that unlocks all doors, (key❤️lock) in Heaven, Hell *and* on Earth.

On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 02:51:03 +0100, David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> wrote:

> On Jul 8, 2023, azigni wrote on alt.religion.shamanism
> (in article <0AoqM.104853$edN3.21876@fx14.iad>):
>
>> Something way off topic as of late, though a serious question.
>>
>> There was a 'situation' I thought was not all it should be and
>> considered taking steps to correct it. I was not part of the situation,
>> but had not come to a decision.
>>
>> That night, I suddenly woke from dreaming, and in my dream I was indeed
>> taking steps to correct the,'situation'.
>>
>> The next day, the 'situation' was corrected and all was good in the
>> neighborhood. I did not think any more of it.
>>
>> Now, two days later, I just remembered my dream and what I was doing in
>> it.
>>
>> Your thoughts?
>
> Well, there is a strong connection between lucid dreaming
> and out of body travel, and out of body travel, or shamanic
> journeying, is a core part of shamanism. So I don’t think
> it is off-topic on alt.religion.shamanism , unlike a lot of
> my Sisyphean moon rock rolling attempts stuff.
>
> Related to such stuff, as part of my assisted shaktipat
> the assisted shaktipat recipients will gain 1/3 strength
> out of body travel special ability. If they already have
> wide range magickal special ability (with 1/3 strength)
> that will give them 2/3 strength. If they already have
> out of body travel special ability they will get 4/3 strength.
> If they already have psychedelic drug enhanceable
> ability they will have 4/3 strength while enhanced and
> 1/3 strength while not enhanced.

### - it appears that lucid dreaming is a universal ability albeit
everyone's been going about it totally the wrong (or rather: the most
difficult) way?

waking-induced lucid dreaming (or WILD for short) being what it's actually
all about, particularly the shamanic/oobe versions which involve the quite
conscious + deliberate entry into other worlds and realms of being for the
purposes of expanding one's awareness.

it took quite a while to put it all together (nearly 13 years) but here's
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------------------------------

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On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 10:19:20 AM UTC-5, slider wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 02:51:03 +0100, David Dalton wrote:
>
> > On Jul 8, 2023, azigni wrote on alt.religion.shamanism
> > (in article <snip>):
> >
> >> Something way off topic as of late, though a serious question.
> >>
> >> There was a 'situation' I thought was not all it should be and
> >> considered taking steps to correct it. I was not part of the situation,
> >> but had not come to a decision.
<snip>
> ### - it appears that lucid dreaming is a universal ability albeit
> everyone's been going about it totally the wrong (or rather: the most
> difficult) way?
>
> waking-induced lucid dreaming (or WILD for short) being what it's actually
> all about, particularly the shamanic/oobe versions which involve the quite
> conscious + deliberate entry into other worlds and realms of being for the
> purposes of expanding one's awareness.

The "WILD" path has been around since (perhaps) Stonehenge (or possibly earlier):

Short URL: media.istockphoto.com/photos/celtic-labyrinth-carved-in-stone-picture-id590290278

Longer URL (but without the "STOCK" watermark):
external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.istockphoto.com%2Fphotos%2Fclose-up-of-finger-labyrinth-in-cornwall-england-picture-id960665882%3Fk%3D6%26m%3D960665882%26s%3D612x612%26w%3D0%26h%3D-_A-rFLtRr0s7zKSrWIyKIjJoFxGc8lvWbSZf04nsKc%3D

The pre-Christian era folk would walk these paths in quiet meditation, with the objective of coming to a personal type of epiphany (as in the possible form of a WILD) upon reaching the center of the path.