TonyCooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> writes:
> What Phil said was:
>
> "And I don't see anything weird about a verizon.com email address, AOL
> took over management of all such addresses after Verizon stop managing
> them themselves (and offered migration away to other services if that
> was your preference)."
>
> Phil understands that Verizon offered migration to other services in
> 2017 and that a verizon.com address is no longer valid unless it leads
> to a service like Yahoo and that is added to the address.

Bullshit. Pure unadulterated bullshit.

Phil
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On Tue, 02 May 2023 10:14:44 +0300, Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org>
wrote:

>TonyCooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> writes:
>> On Mon, 1 May 2023 09:03:19 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>My telephone and access are provided by Verizon (and have been since
>>>I moved here in 2004), and the email service is from "Verizon-Yahoo!."
>>>Maybe some day there will be a systemic change.
>>
>>>Meanwhile, clean your glasses and try emailing me.
>>
>> The above exchange was on April 29th in the late afternoon. You've
>> already forgotten who wrote what and fabricated a total revision
>> already? Start checking out "memory care" facilities.
>>
>> And, you still use a fake email address and ask that I be foolish
>> enough to try to use it?
>
>Everything Peter has said is consistent, and appears to be true,
>aligned with the business antics of Verizon over the last half decade or
>so.
>
>Everything you have said has been ill-founded, demonstrating ignorance
>of how servers do email, and how businesses do business.
>
>Worst, you've included in your blatherings actual accusations of
>known-to-those-skilled-in-the-field-to-be-false malfeasance.
>This makes you a Bad Person(TM).
>
>You've got to remember, you started this off-topic diversion by
>*misreading* his email address. You started off wrong, and have only
>gone wronger since.
>
>Please desist, you are embarassing yourself.
>

It wasn't until Peter Moylan posted that verizon.net is stil a valid
domain that I knew this. I knew that Verizon discontinued offering
email, but did not know that the domain passed to the current
provider.

I was wrong, and freely admit to being so.
--

Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 6:50:50 PM UTC-4, TonyCooper wrote:
> On Mon, 1 May 2023 14:31:15 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 5:06:10?PM UTC-4, TonyCooper wrote:
> >> On Mon, 1 May 2023 12:56:29 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> >> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> >Just checked --the weather app I have bookmarked is https://www.yahoo..com/news/weather/united-states/new-jersey/jersey-city-12760726
> >> >Unfortunately it doesn't say where it's located, and the city is spread
> >> >among at least three micro-climates with differing weather conditions
> Where the app is based? The information is provided by AccuWeather.
> AccuWeather is based in State College PA. Yahoo simply displays what
> AccuWeather provides.
>
> You get the same information that
> https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/jersey-city/07304/weather-forecast/329548
> provides.

Stop being an ass.

> Yahoo news weather defaults to the location of the person who opens
> "Yahoo! weather". When I open Yahoo.com/news/weather it shows the
> weather in my location. I can, however, change location.

Since you love Jersey City so much., howcome you can't comprehend
that the microclimates -- and hence the temperature and rainfall --
differ considerably between The Heights, Downtown, and the South
Side / Greenville?

And that the reported conditions for the whole city depend on which
of the three microclimates the weather station is located in?

Did you notice that it didn't give you info for "Jersey City Heights"?
Thus your claim that it "defaults to [my] lpocation" is false. Even if
it worked by ZIP code, it would show that, since there is only one
post office for the entire Heights.

On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 9:25:45 PM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 02/05/23 03:21, TonyCooper wrote:
>
> > What Phil said was:
> >
> > "And I don't see anything weird about a verizon.com email address,
> > AOL took over management of all such addresses after Verizon stop
> > managing them themselves (and offered migration away to other
> > services if that was your preference)."
> >
> > Phil understands that Verizon offered migration to other services in
> > 2017 and that a verizon.com address is no longer valid unless it
> > leads to a service like Yahoo and that is added to the address. You
> > have stated above that your service is now "Verizon-Yahoo",
> Tony, this time it's you who have the wrong end of the stick. The domain
> verizon.net is still a valid mail domain. As far as I can work out from
> the registration information, this domain name probably now belongs to
> Yahoo, and it is handled by Yahoo mail servers, but the domain name is
> still verizon.net.
>
> Mail to PTD will probably reach him, after correcting the typo you
> introduced.

(which is not ".com" vs. "net." That was someone else's reflex.)

On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 9:35:57 AM UTC-4, TonyCooper wrote:
> On Tue, 02 May 2023 10:14:44 +0300, Phil Carmody <pc+u...@asdf.org>
> wrote:
> >TonyCooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> writes:
> >> On Mon, 1 May 2023 09:03:19 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>My telephone and access are provided by Verizon (and have been since
> >>>I moved here in 2004), and the email service is from "Verizon-Yahoo!."
> >>>Maybe some day there will be a systemic change.
> >>
> >>>Meanwhile, clean your glasses and try emailing me.
> >>
> >> The above exchange was on April 29th in the late afternoon. You've
> >> already forgotten who wrote what and fabricated a total revision
> >> already? Start checking out "memory care" facilities.
> >>
> >> And, you still use a fake email address and ask that I be foolish
> >> enough to try to use it?
> >
> >Everything Peter has said is consistent, and appears to be true,
> >aligned with the business antics of Verizon over the last half decade or
> >so.
> >
> >Everything you have said has been ill-founded, demonstrating ignorance
> >of how servers do email, and how businesses do business.
> >
> >Worst, you've included in your blatherings actual accusations of
> >known-to-those-skilled-in-the-field-to-be-false malfeasance.
> >This makes you a Bad Person(TM).
> >
> >You've got to remember, you started this off-topic diversion by
> >*misreading* his email address. You started off wrong, and have only
> >gone wronger since.
> >
> >Please desist, you are embarassing yourself.
> >
> It wasn't until Peter Moylan posted that verizon.net is stil a valid
> domain that I knew this. I knew that Verizon discontinued offering
> email, but did not know that the domain passed to the current
> provider.

That is nothing but stupidity and ignorance and bad faith, based in
the bizarre assumption that I would have a reason for posting with
an email address that did not exist.

> I was wrong, and freely admit to being so.

It's taken a week.

Phil Carmody is fairly new here. I hope his analysis will have demonstrated
to others that almost all the vitriol directed against me has been caused by
your (TonyCooper's) similar shenanigans on every conceivable topic.

On Tue, 2 May 2023 08:56:08 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
<grammatim@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 6:50:50?PM UTC-4, TonyCooper wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 May 2023 14:31:15 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
>> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 5:06:10?PM UTC-4, TonyCooper wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 1 May 2023 12:56:29 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
>> >> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> >> >Just checked --the weather app I have bookmarked is https://www.yahoo.com/news/weather/united-states/new-jersey/jersey-city-12760726
>> >> >Unfortunately it doesn't say where it's located, and the city is spread
>> >> >among at least three micro-climates with differing weather conditions
>> Where the app is based? The information is provided by AccuWeather.
>> AccuWeather is based in State College PA. Yahoo simply displays what
>> AccuWeather provides.
>>
>> You get the same information that
>> https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/jersey-city/07304/weather-forecast/329548
>> provides.
>
>Stop being an ass.

Why am I being an ass? Your source uses the AccuWeather feed.

>
>> Yahoo news weather defaults to the location of the person who opens
>> "Yahoo! weather". When I open Yahoo.com/news/weather it shows the
>> weather in my location. I can, however, change location.
>
>Since you love Jersey City so much., howcome you can't comprehend
>that the microclimates -- and hence the temperature and rainfall --
>differ considerably between The Heights, Downtown, and the South
>Side / Greenville?

I routinely experience even more specific microclimate divergence. It
can be raining in the parking area in front of my condo, and not
raining in the area behind my condo. I have often been driving on a
highway and seen rain in front of me but my car is not yet being
rained on.

>
>And that the reported conditions for the whole city depend on which
>of the three microclimates the weather station is located in?
>
>Did you notice that it didn't give you info for "Jersey City Heights"?
>Thus your claim that it "defaults to [my] lpocation" is false. Even if
>it worked by ZIP code, it would show that, since there is only one
>post office for the entire Heights.

Good Lord, Petey! What do you expect? A weather report for the
immediate area surrounding your house?

If so, add an outside thermometer to your porch and stick your hand
out the window to see if it's raining. Wet your finger to determine
if the wind is blowing. While you're at the window look up to see if
it's cloudy or clear.

Your location, in that context, is the Jersey City area. No one
expects it to be any individual's location. The Yahoo! weather app
has "Change Location" on the page. Do you think that it should allow
you to change it to Greenville's microclimate because you are
personally in Greenville on an errand?

Is this the first time you've seen "location" to mean something other
than what's under your feet?

Some sites will accept "United States" or "North America" as your
location. Do any have "Jersey City Heights" as a drop-down location?

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

On Tue, 2 May 2023 09:03:09 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
<grammatim@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 9:35:57?AM UTC-4, TonyCooper wrote:
>> On Tue, 02 May 2023 10:14:44 +0300, Phil Carmody <pc+u...@asdf.org>
>> wrote:
>> >TonyCooper <tonyco...@gmail.com> writes:
>> >> On Mon, 1 May 2023 09:03:19 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>My telephone and access are provided by Verizon (and have been since
>> >>>I moved here in 2004), and the email service is from "Verizon-Yahoo!."
>> >>>Maybe some day there will be a systemic change.
>> >>
>> >>>Meanwhile, clean your glasses and try emailing me.
>> >>
>> >> The above exchange was on April 29th in the late afternoon. You've
>> >> already forgotten who wrote what and fabricated a total revision
>> >> already? Start checking out "memory care" facilities.
>> >>
>> >> And, you still use a fake email address and ask that I be foolish
>> >> enough to try to use it?
>> >
>> >Everything Peter has said is consistent, and appears to be true,
>> >aligned with the business antics of Verizon over the last half decade or
>> >so.
>> >
>> >Everything you have said has been ill-founded, demonstrating ignorance
>> >of how servers do email, and how businesses do business.
>> >
>> >Worst, you've included in your blatherings actual accusations of
>> >known-to-those-skilled-in-the-field-to-be-false malfeasance.
>> >This makes you a Bad Person(TM).
>> >
>> >You've got to remember, you started this off-topic diversion by
>> >*misreading* his email address. You started off wrong, and have only
>> >gone wronger since.
>> >
>> >Please desist, you are embarassing yourself.
>> >
>> It wasn't until Peter Moylan posted that verizon.net is stil a valid
>> domain that I knew this. I knew that Verizon discontinued offering
>> email, but did not know that the domain passed to the current
>> provider.
>
>That is nothing but stupidity and ignorance and bad faith, based in
>the bizarre assumption that I would have a reason for posting with
>an email address that did not exist.

Many people in this group do use fake email addresses and have a
reason for it. The original Ken, for example, uses "invalid" as the
domain part of his address.

The presumed reason is that it stops people from harvesting email
addresses in order to send them spam and solicitations to share in
millions of dollars held by African concerns.

>
>> I was wrong, and freely admit to being so.
>
>It's taken a week.

But it was done.

>
>Phil Carmody is fairly new here. I hope his analysis will have demonstrated
>to others that almost all the vitriol directed against me has been caused by
>your (TonyCooper's) similar shenanigans on every conceivable topic.

I have to modestly point out that I don't deserve credit for causing
all of the vitriol directed against you. You've done a yoeman's job
of causing that all on your own dating as far back as your
cross-posting presence from sci.lang.

I accept Phil's banishment of me to his Bad Person(TM) doghouse.
--

Tony Cooper - Orlando,Florida

On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:39:06 PM UTC-4, TonyCooper wrote:
> On Tue, 2 May 2023 08:56:08 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 6:50:50?PM UTC-4, TonyCooper wrote:
> >> On Mon, 1 May 2023 14:31:15 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> >> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> >On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 5:06:10?PM UTC-4, TonyCooper wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 1 May 2023 12:56:29 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> >> >> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> >> >Just checked --the weather app I have bookmarked is https://www.yahoo.com/news/weather/united-states/new-jersey/jersey-city-12760726
> >> >> >Unfortunately it doesn't say where it's located, and the city is spread
> >> >> >among at least three micro-climates with differing weather conditions
> >> Where the app is based? The information is provided by AccuWeather.
> >> AccuWeather is based in State College PA. Yahoo simply displays what
> >> AccuWeather provides.
> >> You get the same information that
> >> https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/jersey-city/07304/weather-forecast/329548
> >> provides.
> >Stop being an ass.
>
> Why am I being an ass? Your source uses the AccuWeather feed.

You know god damn well what I was saying.

If you don't, you are even more incredibly stupid than has been so
obvious all along.

On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 12:58:54 PM UTC-4, TonyCooper wrote:
> On Tue, 2 May 2023 09:03:09 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:

> >to others that almost all the vitriol directed against me has been caused by

> I have to modestly point out that I don't deserve credit for causing
> all of the vitriol directed against you. You've done a yoeman's job

You've done it again. You changed "almost all" to "all."

You are terminally dishonest.

"Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> writes:
> Phil Carmody is fairly new here.

On and off, I'd say I've been reading and occasionally posting for over
2 decades. A time when there were posts from Evan, Charles, Skitt,
Laura, Rey, Padraig, and many others - the field seems to have been
pared somewhat. I took some down-time in the last half-decade or so,
probably when I last moved, as you guys were just way too heavy
maintenance!

Phil
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gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast
aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
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