Do penguins get omicron?
The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
<https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 1 Jan 2022 14:08:37 -0800 (PST), Dean
Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

> Do penguins get omicron?

Some animals do. I forget which. I think they have been giving a few of
them in special circumstances the same human vaccine.

>The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
><https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>

This settles it. I'm not going to antarctica even if my boss wants me
to be in charge of the project.

On 1/1/2022 2:08 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> Do penguins get omicron?
> The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
> <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>

"None of the cases are severe" proves that vaccine is working.

On 1/1/22 17:40, Bob F wrote:
> On 1/1/2022 2:08 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>      Do penguins get omicron?
>> The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
>> <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>
>>
>
>
> "None of the cases are severe" proves that vaccine is working.
>
Bob,
Studies like this leave off some important information.
1) infection rate (which the study included)
2) hospitalization rate (not included in this study)
3) death rate (also not included in this study)
The study did not "proves that vaccine is working"
as you stated. It only demonstrated that jab recipients
"seem" to be infected at the same rate as unjab.
And in some cases, worse. What you did was repeat
a "marking" narrative for the jab.

For a study that does include this necessary information:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1018547/Technical_Briefing_23_21_09_16.pdf
Scroll down to page 19 and 20:
Table 5. Attendance to emergency care and deaths of sequenced and
genotyped Delta cases in England by vaccination status (1 February 2021
to 12 September 2021)
2) Cases where presentation to emergency care resulted in overnight
inpatient admission:
≥14 days post dose 2: 4,634
unvaccinated: 6,303
3) Deaths within 28 days of positive specimen date:
≥14 days post dose 2: 1,613
unvaccinated: 722

An ex-marketing consultant I use to work for told
me the "in marketing, nothing is what it seams".
-T

On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 8:40:27 PM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
> On 1/1/2022 2:08 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> > Do penguins get omicron?
> > The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
> > <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>
> "None of the cases are severe" proves that vaccine is working.

Actually it's better than that. That article is cleverly worded to mislead,
but it apparently actually says that only TWO THIRDS of the 25 became infected.
And that only one had a booster shot, so they were almost all not well
protected against Omicron. We can also probably assume they were all
in close contact, probably living in a single or couple of quarters, etc.
So those results sure reflect very positively on the vaccines.

On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 5:21:48 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
> On 1/1/22 17:40, Bob F wrote:
> > On 1/1/2022 2:08 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> >> Do penguins get omicron?
> >> The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
> >> <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>
> >>
> >
> >
> > "None of the cases are severe" proves that vaccine is working.
> >
> Bob,
>
> Studies like this leave off some important information.
>
> 1) infection rate (which the study included)
>
> 2) hospitalization rate (not included in this study)
>
> 3) death rate (also not included in this study)
>
> The study did not "proves that vaccine is working"
> as you stated. It only demonstrated that jab recipients
> "seem" to be infected at the same rate as unjab.

BS it does. It shows that two thirds of vaccinated people in very close
contact contracted Covid, none of the cases severe. And only ONE had a
booster shot, which we know is important to have protection against
Omicron. In short, the small dataset is in line with what we already know,
the vaccines are effective.

On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 07:30:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4
<trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

>On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 5:21:48 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
>> On 1/1/22 17:40, Bob F wrote:
>> > On 1/1/2022 2:08 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>> >> Do penguins get omicron?
>> >> The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
>> >> <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > "None of the cases are severe" proves that vaccine is working.
>> >
>> Bob,
>>
>> Studies like this leave off some important information.
>>
>> 1) infection rate (which the study included)
>>
>> 2) hospitalization rate (not included in this study)
>>
>> 3) death rate (also not included in this study)
>>
>> The study did not "proves that vaccine is working"
>> as you stated. It only demonstrated that jab recipients
>> "seem" to be infected at the same rate as unjab.
>
>BS it does. It shows that two thirds of vaccinated people in very close
>contact contracted Covid, none of the cases severe. And only ONE had a
>booster shot, which we know is important to have protection against
>Omicron. In short, the small dataset is in line with what we already know,
>the vaccines are effective.
>
The booster and 2 shots didn't protect us and everywhere we were
around other people was under a mask mandate. RSW, DTW and GRR. Other
than that we were just with the family who are boosted. We both have
something pretty nasty (Cold, flu or covid)

Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote

> Do penguins get omicron?

Nope.

> The people there have it despite taking shots etc.

Shots aren't complete protection against getting infected.

> <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote
> Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote

>> Do penguins get omicron?

> Some animals do. I forget which.

Mink, cats, some apes and a few other animals.

> I think they have been giving a few of them in
> special circumstances the same human vaccine.

>>The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
>><https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>

> This settles it. I'm not going to antarctica even if
> my boss wants me to be in charge of the project.

Too cold for me. I hate the winter.

<gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 07:30:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4
> <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 5:21:48 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
>>> On 1/1/22 17:40, Bob F wrote:
>>> > On 1/1/2022 2:08 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>> >> Do penguins get omicron?
>>> >> The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
>>> >> <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "None of the cases are severe" proves that vaccine is working.
>>> >
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> Studies like this leave off some important information.
>>>
>>> 1) infection rate (which the study included)
>>>
>>> 2) hospitalization rate (not included in this study)
>>>
>>> 3) death rate (also not included in this study)
>>>
>>> The study did not "proves that vaccine is working"
>>> as you stated. It only demonstrated that jab recipients
>>> "seem" to be infected at the same rate as unjab.
>>
>>BS it does. It shows that two thirds of vaccinated people in very close
>>contact contracted Covid, none of the cases severe. And only ONE had a
>>booster shot, which we know is important to have protection against
>>Omicron. In short, the small dataset is in line with what we already
>>know,
>>the vaccines are effective.

> The booster and 2 shots didn't protect us

No one has ever claimed that that is complete protection against infection,
fuckwit.

> and everywhere we were around other people was under a mask mandate.

No one has ever claimed that that is complete protection against infection,
fuckwit.

> RSW, DTW and GRR. Other than that we were just with the family who
> are boosted. We both have something pretty nasty (Cold, flu or covid)

And are too stupid to get tested so you wont infect anyone else if its
covid.

On 1/2/2022 8:52 PM, John wrote:
> <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 07:30:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4
>> <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 5:21:48 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
>>>> On 1/1/22 17:40, Bob F wrote:
>>>> > On 1/1/2022 2:08 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>>> >>      Do penguins get omicron?
>>>> >> The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
>>>> >>
>>>> <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > "None of the cases are severe" proves that vaccine is working.
>>>> >
>>>> Bob,
>>>>
>>>> Studies like this leave off some important information.
>>>>
>>>> 1) infection rate (which the study included)
>>>>
>>>> 2) hospitalization rate (not included in this study)
>>>>
>>>> 3) death rate (also not included in this study)
>>>>
>>>> The study did not "proves that vaccine is working"
>>>> as you stated. It only demonstrated that jab recipients
>>>> "seem" to be infected at the same rate as unjab.

You always leave out the part about how much less the vaccinated are
affected when they get infected. They end up hospitalized many time less
than unvaccinated idiots. And they are infectious for less time.

>>>
>>> BS it does.  It shows that two thirds of vaccinated people in very close
>>> contact contracted Covid, none of the cases severe.  And only ONE had a
>>> booster shot, which we know is important to have protection against
>>> Omicron.   In short, the small dataset is in line with what we
>>> already know,
>>> the vaccines are effective.
>
>> The booster and 2 shots didn't protect us
>
> No one has ever claimed that that is complete protection against
> infection, fuckwit.
>
>> and everywhere we were around other people was under a mask mandate.
>
> No one has ever claimed that that is complete protection against
> infection, fuckwit.
>
>> RSW, DTW and GRR. Other than that we were just with the family who
>> are boosted. We both have something pretty nasty (Cold, flu or covid)
>
> And are too stupid to get tested so you wont infect anyone else if its
> covid.

On 1/2/22 21:39, Bob F wrote:
> You always leave out the part about how much less the vaccinated are
> affected when they get infected. They end up hospitalized many time less
> than unvaccinated idiots. And they are infectious for less time.
And you, my friend, never give evidence to support what
amounts to nothing more than a propaganda narrative.

On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 15:52:04 +1100, "John" <olu@gmail.com> wrote:

><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 07:30:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4
>> <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 5:21:48 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
>>>> On 1/1/22 17:40, Bob F wrote:
>>>> > On 1/1/2022 2:08 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>>> >> Do penguins get omicron?
>>>> >> The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
>>>> >> <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > "None of the cases are severe" proves that vaccine is working.
>>>> >
>>>> Bob,
>>>>
>>>> Studies like this leave off some important information.
>>>>
>>>> 1) infection rate (which the study included)
>>>>
>>>> 2) hospitalization rate (not included in this study)
>>>>
>>>> 3) death rate (also not included in this study)
>>>>
>>>> The study did not "proves that vaccine is working"
>>>> as you stated. It only demonstrated that jab recipients
>>>> "seem" to be infected at the same rate as unjab.
>>>
>>>BS it does. It shows that two thirds of vaccinated people in very close
>>>contact contracted Covid, none of the cases severe. And only ONE had a
>>>booster shot, which we know is important to have protection against
>>>Omicron. In short, the small dataset is in line with what we already
>>>know,
>>>the vaccines are effective.
>
>> The booster and 2 shots didn't protect us
>
>No one has ever claimed that that is complete protection against infection,
>fuckwit.

In fact Fauci said he can't imagine the booster will protect you from
infection. Heluva vaccine you got there.

>
>> and everywhere we were around other people was under a mask mandate.
>
>No one has ever claimed that that is complete protection against infection,
>fuckwit.
>
Then why bother?

>> RSW, DTW and GRR. Other than that we were just with the family who
>> are boosted. We both have something pretty nasty (Cold, flu or covid)
>
>And are too stupid to get tested so you wont infect anyone else if its
>covid.

Will testing prevent infection? Tell me more.
It really doesn't matter at this point whether I have Covid, the flu
or just a cold. I am staying home.
Standing in a line with 100 other people waiting for a test certainly
doesn't sound safe but the reality is they are out of tests.

On 1/3/22 06:02, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>> No one has ever claimed that that is complete protection against infection,

> Then why bother?

Especially since the jabbed catch the stinker as
much as the un-jabbed and the viral load is the same.
And as soon as someone with the stinker opens his
mouth and starts talking, he aerosols the stinker,
it goes right through even an N95 mask, and you
get covered with millions of all kinds of viruses.

>>> RSW, DTW and GRR. Other than that we were just with the family who
>>> are boosted. We both have something pretty nasty (Cold, flu or covid)
>> And are too stupid to get tested so you wont infect anyone else if its
>> covid.

> Will testing prevent infection? Tell me more.
> It really doesn't matter at this point whether I have Covid, the flu
> or just a cold. I am staying home.

YIPPEE!!! I can not tell you how many times I have called
a customer to set up an appointment and had them say
"Today is a good day to stop by. I am home sick."
Jerk! See you in two weeks.

> Standing in a line with 100 other people waiting for a test certainly
> doesn't sound safe but the reality is they are out of tests.

In NY City, they force restaurants to close by
making them check vaccine papers, but it is
okay for everyone to crowd into their urine soaked
subways, jab or no jab. Idiots.

<gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>
>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 07:30:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4
>>> <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 5:21:48 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
>>>>> On 1/1/22 17:40, Bob F wrote:
>>>>> > On 1/1/2022 2:08 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>>>> >> Do penguins get omicron?
>>>>> >> The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
>>>>> >> <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "None of the cases are severe" proves that vaccine is working.
>>>>> >
>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>
>>>>> Studies like this leave off some important information.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) infection rate (which the study included)
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) hospitalization rate (not included in this study)
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) death rate (also not included in this study)
>>>>>
>>>>> The study did not "proves that vaccine is working"
>>>>> as you stated. It only demonstrated that jab recipients
>>>>> "seem" to be infected at the same rate as unjab.
>>>>
>>>>BS it does. It shows that two thirds of vaccinated people in very close
>>>>contact contracted Covid, none of the cases severe. And only ONE had a
>>>>booster shot, which we know is important to have protection against
>>>>Omicron. In short, the small dataset is in line with what we already
>>>>know,
>>>>the vaccines are effective.
>>
>>> The booster and 2 shots didn't protect us
>>
>>No one has ever claimed that that is complete protection against
>>infection,
>>fuckwit.
>
> In fact Fauci said he can't imagine the booster will protect you from
> infection.

He said nothing of the sort, you silly little pathological liar.

> Heluva vaccine you got there.

Helluva level of stupidity you got there.

>>> and everywhere we were around other people was under a mask mandate.
>>
>>No one has ever claimed that that is complete protection against
>>infection,
>>fuckwit.
>>
> Then why bother?

Because its better than nothing, fuckwit.

>>> RSW, DTW and GRR. Other than that we were just with the family who
>>> are boosted. We both have something pretty nasty (Cold, flu or covid)
>>
>>And are too stupid to get tested so you wont infect anyone else if its
>>covid.
>
> Will testing prevent infection?

It will prevent you infecting others if you isolate when you know its covid.

> Tell me more.

No point, you are far too stupid to understand anything.

> It really doesn't matter at this point whether I have
> Covid, the flu or just a cold. I am staying home.

But with covid its important to stay home until you test
negative even if you no longer feel bad enough to stay home.

> Standing in a line with 100 other people waiting for a test certainly
> doesn't sound safe but the reality is they are out of tests.

You stay in your car and they test you thru the open window, fuckwit.

Or get a rapid antigen test delivered. Even you should be able to manage
that.

On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 06:46:35 +1100, "John" <olu@gmail.com> wrote:

><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 07:30:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4
>>>> <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 5:21:48 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
>>>>>> On 1/1/22 17:40, Bob F wrote:
>>>>>> > On 1/1/2022 2:08 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>> >> Do penguins get omicron?
>>>>>> >> The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
>>>>>> >> <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > "None of the cases are severe" proves that vaccine is working.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Studies like this leave off some important information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) infection rate (which the study included)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) hospitalization rate (not included in this study)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) death rate (also not included in this study)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The study did not "proves that vaccine is working"
>>>>>> as you stated. It only demonstrated that jab recipients
>>>>>> "seem" to be infected at the same rate as unjab.
>>>>>
>>>>>BS it does. It shows that two thirds of vaccinated people in very close
>>>>>contact contracted Covid, none of the cases severe. And only ONE had a
>>>>>booster shot, which we know is important to have protection against
>>>>>Omicron. In short, the small dataset is in line with what we already
>>>>>know,
>>>>>the vaccines are effective.
>>>
>>>> The booster and 2 shots didn't protect us
>>>
>>>No one has ever claimed that that is complete protection against
>>>infection,
>>>fuckwit.
>>
>> In fact Fauci said he can't imagine the booster will protect you from
>> infection.
>
>He said nothing of the sort, you silly little pathological liar.
>
Listen and tell me what you hear.

https://gfretwell.com/ftp/Fauci%20holt%20Omicron%20vax.mp3

>> Heluva vaccine you got there.
>
>Helluva level of stupidity you got there.

I am vaxed and boosted with an infection I got wearing a mask.

<gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>
>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 07:30:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4
>>>>> <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 5:21:48 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
>>>>>>> On 1/1/22 17:40, Bob F wrote:
>>>>>>> > On 1/1/2022 2:08 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>> >> Do penguins get omicron?
>>>>>>> >> The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
>>>>>>> >> <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > "None of the cases are severe" proves that vaccine is working.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Studies like this leave off some important information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) infection rate (which the study included)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) hospitalization rate (not included in this study)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) death rate (also not included in this study)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The study did not "proves that vaccine is working"
>>>>>>> as you stated. It only demonstrated that jab recipients
>>>>>>> "seem" to be infected at the same rate as unjab.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BS it does. It shows that two thirds of vaccinated people in very
>>>>>>close
>>>>>>contact contracted Covid, none of the cases severe. And only ONE had
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>booster shot, which we know is important to have protection against
>>>>>>Omicron. In short, the small dataset is in line with what we already
>>>>>>know,
>>>>>>the vaccines are effective.
>>>>
>>>>> The booster and 2 shots didn't protect us
>>>>
>>>>No one has ever claimed that that is complete protection against
>>>>infection,
>>>>fuckwit.
>>>
>>> In fact Fauci said he can't imagine the booster will protect you from
>>> infection.
>>
>>He said nothing of the sort, you silly little pathological liar.
>>
> Listen and tell me what you hear.
>
> https://gfretwell.com/ftp/Fauci%20holt%20Omicron%20vax.mp3

Nothing like what you stupidly claimed.

>>> Heluva vaccine you got there.
>>
>>Helluva level of stupidity you got there.
>
> I am vaxed and boosted with an infection I got wearing a mask.

No one ever claimed that vaccination and a mask completely
eliminated any possibility of getting infected and you are so
stupid that you never could manage to work that out.

On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 09:19:44 +1100, "John" <olu@gmail.com> wrote:

><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 07:30:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4
>>>>>> <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 5:21:48 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 1/1/22 17:40, Bob F wrote:
>>>>>>>> > On 1/1/2022 2:08 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>> >> Do penguins get omicron?
>>>>>>>> >> The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
>>>>>>>> >> <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > "None of the cases are severe" proves that vaccine is working.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Studies like this leave off some important information.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) infection rate (which the study included)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) hospitalization rate (not included in this study)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3) death rate (also not included in this study)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The study did not "proves that vaccine is working"
>>>>>>>> as you stated. It only demonstrated that jab recipients
>>>>>>>> "seem" to be infected at the same rate as unjab.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BS it does. It shows that two thirds of vaccinated people in very
>>>>>>>close
>>>>>>>contact contracted Covid, none of the cases severe. And only ONE had
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>booster shot, which we know is important to have protection against
>>>>>>>Omicron. In short, the small dataset is in line with what we already
>>>>>>>know,
>>>>>>>the vaccines are effective.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The booster and 2 shots didn't protect us
>>>>>
>>>>>No one has ever claimed that that is complete protection against
>>>>>infection,
>>>>>fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>> In fact Fauci said he can't imagine the booster will protect you from
>>>> infection.
>>>
>>>He said nothing of the sort, you silly little pathological liar.
>>>
>> Listen and tell me what you hear.
>>
>> https://gfretwell.com/ftp/Fauci%20holt%20Omicron%20vax.mp3
>
>Nothing like what you stupidly claimed.
>
He said EXACTLY what I claimed. What do you think he said?

>>>> Heluva vaccine you got there.
>>>
>>>Helluva level of stupidity you got there.
>>
>> I am vaxed and boosted with an infection I got wearing a mask.
>
>No one ever claimed that vaccination and a mask completely
>eliminated any possibility of getting infected and you are so
>stupid that you never could manage to work that out.
>

If you are going to get infected anyway, why bother?

<gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 09:19:44 +1100, "John" <olu@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 07:30:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4
>>>>>>> <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 5:21:48 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 1/1/22 17:40, Bob F wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > On 1/1/2022 2:08 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >> Do penguins get omicron?
>>>>>>>>> >> The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
>>>>>>>>> >> <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > "None of the cases are severe" proves that vaccine is working.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Studies like this leave off some important information.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1) infection rate (which the study included)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2) hospitalization rate (not included in this study)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3) death rate (also not included in this study)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The study did not "proves that vaccine is working"
>>>>>>>>> as you stated. It only demonstrated that jab recipients
>>>>>>>>> "seem" to be infected at the same rate as unjab.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>BS it does. It shows that two thirds of vaccinated people in very
>>>>>>>>close
>>>>>>>>contact contracted Covid, none of the cases severe. And only ONE
>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>booster shot, which we know is important to have protection against
>>>>>>>>Omicron. In short, the small dataset is in line with what we
>>>>>>>>already
>>>>>>>>know,
>>>>>>>>the vaccines are effective.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The booster and 2 shots didn't protect us
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No one has ever claimed that that is complete protection against
>>>>>>infection,
>>>>>>fuckwit.
>>>>>
>>>>> In fact Fauci said he can't imagine the booster will protect you from
>>>>> infection.
>>>>
>>>>He said nothing of the sort, you silly little pathological liar.
>>>>
>>> Listen and tell me what you hear.
>>>
>>> https://gfretwell.com/ftp/Fauci%20holt%20Omicron%20vax.mp3
>>
>>Nothing like what you stupidly claimed.
>>
> He said EXACTLY what I claimed.

No he did not.

> What do you think he said?

I know he said nothing like what you stupidly claimed he said.

>>>>> Heluva vaccine you got there.
>>>>
>>>>Helluva level of stupidity you got there.
>>>
>>> I am vaxed and boosted with an infection I got wearing a mask.
>>
>>No one ever claimed that vaccination and a mask completely
>>eliminated any possibility of getting infected and you are so
>>stupid that you never could manage to work that out.
>>
>
> If you are going to get infected anyway, why bother?

You aren't going to be infected anyway, vaccination
radically reduces the risk of getting infected and
almost eliminates severe disease and being killed
by the virus if you do get infected.

You are too fucking stupid to work that out
but that is what the mass vaccination has shown.

On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 11:39:05 +1100, "John" <olu@gmail.com> wrote:

><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>> On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 09:19:44 +1100, "John" <olu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 07:30:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4
>>>>>>>> <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 5:21:48 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/1/22 17:40, Bob F wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > On 1/1/2022 2:08 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >> Do penguins get omicron?
>>>>>>>>>> >> The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
>>>>>>>>>> >> <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > "None of the cases are severe" proves that vaccine is working.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Studies like this leave off some important information.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1) infection rate (which the study included)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2) hospitalization rate (not included in this study)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 3) death rate (also not included in this study)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The study did not "proves that vaccine is working"
>>>>>>>>>> as you stated. It only demonstrated that jab recipients
>>>>>>>>>> "seem" to be infected at the same rate as unjab.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>BS it does. It shows that two thirds of vaccinated people in very
>>>>>>>>>close
>>>>>>>>>contact contracted Covid, none of the cases severe. And only ONE
>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>booster shot, which we know is important to have protection against
>>>>>>>>>Omicron. In short, the small dataset is in line with what we
>>>>>>>>>already
>>>>>>>>>know,
>>>>>>>>>the vaccines are effective.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The booster and 2 shots didn't protect us
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No one has ever claimed that that is complete protection against
>>>>>>>infection,
>>>>>>>fuckwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In fact Fauci said he can't imagine the booster will protect you from
>>>>>> infection.
>>>>>
>>>>>He said nothing of the sort, you silly little pathological liar.
>>>>>
>>>> Listen and tell me what you hear.
>>>>
>>>> https://gfretwell.com/ftp/Fauci%20holt%20Omicron%20vax.mp3
>>>
>>>Nothing like what you stupidly claimed.
>>>
>> He said EXACTLY what I claimed.
>
>No he did not.
>
>> What do you think he said?
>
>I know he said nothing like what you stupidly claimed he said.
>
I gave you the actual audio, listen to it and tell me what you heard.
Just saying no makes you sound like a 3 year old

My guess is you never listened. Maybe your apple phone doesn't have
working sound

<gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 11:39:05 +1100, "John" <olu@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>> On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 09:19:44 +1100, "John" <olu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>>> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 07:30:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4
>>>>>>>>> <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 5:21:48 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/1/22 17:40, Bob F wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > On 1/1/2022 2:08 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Do penguins get omicron?
>>>>>>>>>>> >> The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > "None of the cases are severe" proves that vaccine is working.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Studies like this leave off some important information.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1) infection rate (which the study included)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2) hospitalization rate (not included in this study)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3) death rate (also not included in this study)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The study did not "proves that vaccine is working"
>>>>>>>>>>> as you stated. It only demonstrated that jab recipients
>>>>>>>>>>> "seem" to be infected at the same rate as unjab.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>BS it does. It shows that two thirds of vaccinated people in very
>>>>>>>>>>close
>>>>>>>>>>contact contracted Covid, none of the cases severe. And only ONE
>>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>booster shot, which we know is important to have protection
>>>>>>>>>>against
>>>>>>>>>>Omicron. In short, the small dataset is in line with what we
>>>>>>>>>>already
>>>>>>>>>>know,
>>>>>>>>>>the vaccines are effective.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The booster and 2 shots didn't protect us
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>No one has ever claimed that that is complete protection against
>>>>>>>>infection,
>>>>>>>>fuckwit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In fact Fauci said he can't imagine the booster will protect you
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> infection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>He said nothing of the sort, you silly little pathological liar.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Listen and tell me what you hear.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://gfretwell.com/ftp/Fauci%20holt%20Omicron%20vax.mp3
>>>>
>>>>Nothing like what you stupidly claimed.
>>>>
>>> He said EXACTLY what I claimed.
>>
>>No he did not.
>>
>>> What do you think he said?
>>
>>I know he said nothing like what you stupidly claimed he said.
>>
> I gave you the actual audio, listen to it

I did.

> and tell me what you heard.

I did, nothing like what you stupidly claim he said there.

> My guess is you never listened.

You are just plain wrong about that.

> Maybe your apple phone doesn't have working sound

I listened to it on the desktop PC which does have working sound.

On 1/3/2022 6:43 PM, John wrote:
> <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>> On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 11:39:05 +1100, "John" <olu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>> On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 09:19:44 +1100, "John" <olu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 07:30:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4
>>>>>>>>>> <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 5:21:48 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/1/22 17:40, Bob F wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 1/1/2022 2:08 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>      Do penguins get omicron?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > "None of the cases are severe" proves that vaccine is
>>>>>>>>>>>> working.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Studies like this leave off some important information.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) infection rate (which the study included)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) hospitalization rate (not included in this study)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) death rate (also not included in this study)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The study did not "proves that vaccine is working"
>>>>>>>>>>>> as you stated. It only demonstrated that jab recipients
>>>>>>>>>>>> "seem" to be infected at the same rate as unjab.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BS it does.  It shows that two thirds of vaccinated people in
>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>> close
>>>>>>>>>>> contact contracted Covid, none of the cases severe.  And only
>>>>>>>>>>> ONE
>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> booster shot, which we know is important to have protection
>>>>>>>>>>> against
>>>>>>>>>>> Omicron.   In short, the small dataset is in line with what we
>>>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>>> know,
>>>>>>>>>>> the vaccines are effective.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The booster and 2 shots didn't protect us
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No one has ever claimed that that is complete protection against
>>>>>>>>> infection,
>>>>>>>>> fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In fact Fauci said he can't imagine the booster will protect you
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> infection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He said nothing of the sort, you silly little pathological liar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Listen and tell me what you hear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://gfretwell.com/ftp/Fauci%20holt%20Omicron%20vax.mp3
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing like what you stupidly claimed.
>>>>>
>>>> He said EXACTLY what I claimed.
>>>
>>> No he did not.
>>>
>>>> What do you think he said?
>>>
>>> I know he said nothing like what you stupidly claimed he said.
>>>
>> I gave you the actual audio, listen to it
>
> I did.
>
>> and tell me what you heard.
>
> I did, nothing like what you stupidly claim he said there.
>
>> My guess is you never listened.
>
> You are just plain wrong about that.
>
>> Maybe your apple phone doesn't have working sound
>
> I listened to it on the desktop PC which does have working sound.
>
>

Trying to get fret to be reasonable is a doomed project. Just plonk him.

On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 13:43:28 +1100, "John" <olu@gmail.com> wrote:

><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>> On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 11:39:05 +1100, "John" <olu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>> On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 09:19:44 +1100, "John" <olu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 07:30:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4
>>>>>>>>>> <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 5:21:48 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/1/22 17:40, Bob F wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 1/1/2022 2:08 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Do penguins get omicron?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > "None of the cases are severe" proves that vaccine is working.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Studies like this leave off some important information.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) infection rate (which the study included)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) hospitalization rate (not included in this study)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) death rate (also not included in this study)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The study did not "proves that vaccine is working"
>>>>>>>>>>>> as you stated. It only demonstrated that jab recipients
>>>>>>>>>>>> "seem" to be infected at the same rate as unjab.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>BS it does. It shows that two thirds of vaccinated people in very
>>>>>>>>>>>close
>>>>>>>>>>>contact contracted Covid, none of the cases severe. And only ONE
>>>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>booster shot, which we know is important to have protection
>>>>>>>>>>>against
>>>>>>>>>>>Omicron. In short, the small dataset is in line with what we
>>>>>>>>>>>already
>>>>>>>>>>>know,
>>>>>>>>>>>the vaccines are effective.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The booster and 2 shots didn't protect us
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>No one has ever claimed that that is complete protection against
>>>>>>>>>infection,
>>>>>>>>>fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In fact Fauci said he can't imagine the booster will protect you
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> infection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>He said nothing of the sort, you silly little pathological liar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Listen and tell me what you hear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://gfretwell.com/ftp/Fauci%20holt%20Omicron%20vax.mp3
>>>>>
>>>>>Nothing like what you stupidly claimed.
>>>>>
>>>> He said EXACTLY what I claimed.
>>>
>>>No he did not.
>>>
>>>> What do you think he said?
>>>
>>>I know he said nothing like what you stupidly claimed he said.
>>>
>> I gave you the actual audio, listen to it
>
>I did.
>
>> and tell me what you heard.
>
>I did, nothing like what you stupidly claim he said there.
>
Then tell me what you heard. It seemed pretty clear to me. I guess I
could turn captions on and get a screen shot off the TV. Let's see
what the caption tech heard.

On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 20:10:35 -0800, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 1/3/2022 6:43 PM, John wrote:
>> <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>> On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 11:39:05 +1100, "John" <olu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>> On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 09:19:44 +1100, "John" <olu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>>> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 07:30:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4
>>>>>>>>>>> <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 5:21:48 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/1/22 17:40, Bob F wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 1/1/2022 2:08 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>      Do penguins get omicron?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > "None of the cases are severe" proves that vaccine is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> working.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Studies like this leave off some important information.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) infection rate (which the study included)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) hospitalization rate (not included in this study)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) death rate (also not included in this study)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The study did not "proves that vaccine is working"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as you stated. It only demonstrated that jab recipients
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "seem" to be infected at the same rate as unjab.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> BS it does.  It shows that two thirds of vaccinated people in
>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>> close
>>>>>>>>>>>> contact contracted Covid, none of the cases severe.  And only
>>>>>>>>>>>> ONE
>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> booster shot, which we know is important to have protection
>>>>>>>>>>>> against
>>>>>>>>>>>> Omicron.   In short, the small dataset is in line with what we
>>>>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>>>> know,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the vaccines are effective.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The booster and 2 shots didn't protect us
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No one has ever claimed that that is complete protection against
>>>>>>>>>> infection,
>>>>>>>>>> fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In fact Fauci said he can't imagine the booster will protect you
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> infection.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He said nothing of the sort, you silly little pathological liar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Listen and tell me what you hear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://gfretwell.com/ftp/Fauci%20holt%20Omicron%20vax.mp3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing like what you stupidly claimed.
>>>>>>
>>>>> He said EXACTLY what I claimed.
>>>>
>>>> No he did not.
>>>>
>>>>> What do you think he said?
>>>>
>>>> I know he said nothing like what you stupidly claimed he said.
>>>>
>>> I gave you the actual audio, listen to it
>>
>> I did.
>>
>>> and tell me what you heard.
>>
>> I did, nothing like what you stupidly claim he said there.
>>
>>> My guess is you never listened.
>>
>> You are just plain wrong about that.
>>
>>> Maybe your apple phone doesn't have working sound
>>
>> I listened to it on the desktop PC which does have working sound.
>>
>>
>
>Trying to get fret to be reasonable is a doomed project. Just plonk him.

What did you hear him say? It is a pretty simple question. I give you
actual audio, the source and the date and time of the show, you still
say I am wrong. Is your devotion to your Covidian cult that strong?

<gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 13:43:28 +1100, "John" <olu@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>> On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 11:39:05 +1100, "John" <olu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>> On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 09:19:44 +1100, "John" <olu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>>> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> John <olu@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>><gfretwell@aol.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 07:30:30 -0800 (PST), trader_4
>>>>>>>>>>> <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 5:21:48 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/1/22 17:40, Bob F wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 1/1/2022 2:08 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Do penguins get omicron?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> The people there have it despite taking shots etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> <https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/31/data-from-around-the-world-including-antarctica-show-omicron-favoring-the-fully-vaccinated/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > "None of the cases are severe" proves that vaccine is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > working.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Studies like this leave off some important information.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) infection rate (which the study included)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) hospitalization rate (not included in this study)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) death rate (also not included in this study)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The study did not "proves that vaccine is working"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as you stated. It only demonstrated that jab recipients
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "seem" to be infected at the same rate as unjab.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>BS it does. It shows that two thirds of vaccinated people in
>>>>>>>>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>>>>close
>>>>>>>>>>>>contact contracted Covid, none of the cases severe. And only
>>>>>>>>>>>>ONE
>>>>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>booster shot, which we know is important to have protection
>>>>>>>>>>>>against
>>>>>>>>>>>>Omicron. In short, the small dataset is in line with what we
>>>>>>>>>>>>already
>>>>>>>>>>>>know,
>>>>>>>>>>>>the vaccines are effective.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The booster and 2 shots didn't protect us
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>No one has ever claimed that that is complete protection against
>>>>>>>>>>infection,
>>>>>>>>>>fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In fact Fauci said he can't imagine the booster will protect you
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> infection.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>He said nothing of the sort, you silly little pathological liar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Listen and tell me what you hear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://gfretwell.com/ftp/Fauci%20holt%20Omicron%20vax.mp3
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nothing like what you stupidly claimed.
>>>>>>
>>>>> He said EXACTLY what I claimed.
>>>>
>>>>No he did not.
>>>>
>>>>> What do you think he said?
>>>>
>>>>I know he said nothing like what you stupidly claimed he said.
>>>>
>>> I gave you the actual audio, listen to it
>>
>>I did.
>>
>>> and tell me what you heard.
>>
>>I did, nothing like what you stupidly claim he said there.
>>
> Then tell me what you heard.

I did, nothing like you stupidly claimed.

> It seemed pretty clear to me.

Because you actually are that stupid.

I guess I
> could turn captions on and get a screen shot off the TV. Let's see
> what the caption tech heard.

Nothing like you stupidly claimed.