Home builders/fixers will be busy. I think the article mentioned
100 mph winds and vehicles being blown over. Superior and Louisville, CO
have been evacuated. The article has pictures.
<https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10356817/Wildfire-spreads-Boulder-Louisville-power-lines-down.html>

On 12/31/21 03:40, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> Home builders/fixers will be busy. I think the article mentioned
> 100 mph winds and vehicles being blown over. Superior and Louisville, CO
> have been evacuated. The article has pictures.
> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10356817/Wildfire-spreads-Boulder-Louisville-power-lines-down.html>

Yikes!

Looks like a grass land fire that the wind
blew embers into the city.

:'(

On 12/31/2021 04:40 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> Home builders/fixers will be busy. I think the article mentioned
> 100 mph winds and vehicles being blown over. Superior and Louisville, CO
> have been evacuated. The article has pictures.
> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10356817/Wildfire-spreads-Boulder-Louisville-power-lines-down.html>
>

A person on another list mentioned his wife was at CostCo in Superior
when the the management told the shoppers to grab their stuff and go.

https://twitter.com/N4ttybyn4ture/status/1476646441678520328

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/video-shows-people-fleeing-chuck-235141395.html

According to that story things went to hell fast.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peshtigo_fire

Fire is nothing new but as more areas get built up on the margins of
forests and grasslands it isn't going to get better.

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 6:40:44 AM UTC-5, dean...@gmail.com wrote:
> Home builders/fixers will be busy. I think the article mentioned
> 100 mph winds and vehicles being blown over. Superior and Louisville, CO
> have been evacuated. The article has pictures.
> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10356817/Wildfire-spreads-Boulder-Louisville-power-lines-down.html>

Some family members live in Denver, about 23 miles from the fire. They saw/smelled the
smoke all night. They are trying to contact a few friends in the area but haven't been able
to make contact. Nerve-racking, although no deaths have been reported.

She sent me this link. Video of the aftermath once the sun cam up.

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2021/12/31/marshall-fire-daylight-devastation-superior-louisville/

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 1:05:18 PM UTC-6, Marilyn Manson wrote:
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 6:40:44 AM UTC-5, dean...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Home builders/fixers will be busy. I think the article mentioned
> > 100 mph winds and vehicles being blown over. Superior and Louisville, CO
> > have been evacuated. The article has pictures.
> > <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10356817/Wildfire-spreads-Boulder-Louisville-power-lines-down.html>
> Some family members live in Denver, about 23 miles from the fire. They saw/smelled the
> smoke all night. They are trying to contact a few friends in the area but haven't been able
> to make contact. Nerve-racking, although no deaths have been reported.
>
> She sent me this link. Video of the aftermath once the sun cam up.
>
> https://denver.cbslocal.com/2021/12/31/marshall-fire-daylight-devastation-superior-louisville/
The couple toward the end commented that their house was still standing. I wonder about
smoke damage even in a house with windows and doors intact. How do they get rid of that?

Dean Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote
> Marilyn Manson wrote
>> dean...@gmail.com wrote

>> > Home builders/fixers will be busy. I think the article mentioned
>> > 100 mph winds and vehicles being blown over. Superior and
>> > Louisville, CO have been evacuated. The article has pictures.
>> > <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10356817/Wildfire-spreads-Boulder-Louisville-power-lines-down.html>
>> Some family members live in Denver, about 23 miles from the fire. They
>> saw/smelled the
>> smoke all night. They are trying to contact a few friends in the area but
>> haven't been able
>> to make contact. Nerve-racking, although no deaths have been reported.
>>
>> She sent me this link. Video of the aftermath once the sun cam up.
>>
>> https://denver.cbslocal.com/2021/12/31/marshall-fire-daylight-devastation-superior-louisville/

> The couple toward the end commented that their house was still standing.
> I wonder about
> smoke damage even in a house with windows and doors intact. How do they
> get rid of that?

In my mates case where a Merc in the carport catching fire would have burnt
the
house done if a passing motorist hadn't called the fire brigade, they just
painted it.

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 31 Dec 2021 12:12:29 -0800 (PST), Dean
Hoffman <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 1:05:18 PM UTC-6, Marilyn Manson wrote:
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 6:40:44 AM UTC-5, dean...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > Home builders/fixers will be busy. I think the article mentioned
>> > 100 mph winds and vehicles being blown over. Superior and Louisville, CO
>> > have been evacuated. The article has pictures.
>> > <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10356817/Wildfire-spreads-Boulder-Louisville-power-lines-down.html>
>> Some family members live in Denver, about 23 miles from the fire. They saw/smelled the
>> smoke all night. They are trying to contact a few friends in the area but haven't been able
>> to make contact. Nerve-racking, although no deaths have been reported.
>>
>> She sent me this link. Video of the aftermath once the sun cam up.
>>
>> https://denver.cbslocal.com/2021/12/31/marshall-fire-daylight-devastation-superior-louisville/
> The couple toward the end commented that their house was still standing. I wonder about
>smoke damage even in a house with windows and doors intact. How do they get rid of that?

I'd be so happy I'd just live there and wait until I no longer smelled
it. If the windows and doors were shut, there might not be much. I
have a mail slot in my front door and every December I think I should do
something about the cold air. One year I did. And the fuzzy seals
between moving windows panes have deteriorated in one or two cases. And
one roller on the sliding glass door has partly collapsed and tilted th
top of the door aways from its jamb, and the whole summer went by and
I'd forgotten about it until 2 weeks ago. Shame on me.

And there's the dryer vent. It has only a partial cover and it's
disconnected inside. And I've been meaning to check where the AC tubing
comes into the basement. Does't that have to be recaulked once in a
while? If not cold air and smoke, can't a mouse get in?

Other than that, the house is pretty tight.

On 12/31/21 03:40, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> Home builders/fixers will be busy. I think the article mentioned
> 100 mph winds and vehicles being blown over. Superior and Louisville, CO
> have been evacuated. The article has pictures.
> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10356817/Wildfire-spreads-Boulder-Louisville-power-lines-down.html>

Whilst living in Germany in the 70's, fire departments
were almost unheard of. Everyone built their houses
out of cinder blocks. The insides were really nice
too.

Anyone have an comments on why we use such flamible
materials here?

-T

On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 6:18:17 AM UTC-6, T wrote:
> On 12/31/21 03:40, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> > Home builders/fixers will be busy. I think the article mentioned
> > 100 mph winds and vehicles being blown over. Superior and Louisville, CO
> > have been evacuated. The article has pictures.
> > <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10356817/Wildfire-spreads-Boulder-Louisville-power-lines-down.html>
> Whilst living in Germany in the 70's, fire departments
> were almost unheard of. Everyone built their houses
> out of cinder blocks. The insides were really nice
> too.
>
> Anyone have an comments on why we use such flamible
> materials here?
>
> -T
Maybe just the obvious idea that people used what was handy. People built sod houses
on the prairies.
<https://history.nebraska.gov/publications/sod-house-construction>
<https://www.nebraskastudies.org/en/1850-1874/the-challenges-of-the-plains/living-in-a-sod-house/>

On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 7:18:17 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
> On 12/31/21 03:40, Dean Hoffman wrote:
> > Home builders/fixers will be busy. I think the article mentioned
> > 100 mph winds and vehicles being blown over. Superior and Louisville, CO
> > have been evacuated. The article has pictures.
> > <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10356817/Wildfire-spreads-Boulder-Louisville-power-lines-down.html>
> Whilst living in Germany in the 70's, fire departments
> were almost unheard of. Everyone built their houses
> out of cinder blocks. The insides were really nice
> too.
>
> Anyone have an comments on why we use such flamible
> materials here?

Available. Inexpensive. Easy for amateurs to work with. And now,
of course, traditional.

Cindy Hamilton

On 1/3/2022 7:18 AM, T wrote:
> On 12/31/21 03:40, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>      Home builders/fixers will be busy.  I think the article mentioned
>> 100 mph winds and vehicles being blown over.  Superior and Louisville, CO
>> have been evacuated.   The article has pictures.
>> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10356817/Wildfire-spreads-Boulder-Louisville-power-lines-down.html>
>>
>
> Whilst living in Germany in the 70's, fire departments
> were almost unheard of.  Everyone built their houses
> out of cinder blocks.  The insides were really nice
> too.
>
> Anyone have an comments on why we use such flamible
> materials here?
>
> -T

Many reasons, cost being one factor, material availability another.

To say they don't have fire departments because the house is built from
cinder blocks makes no sense. The four walls may stand, but the
contents and roof structure sure burn.

On 1/3/22 06:27, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/3/2022 7:18 AM, T wrote:
>> On 12/31/21 03:40, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>>      Home builders/fixers will be busy.  I think the article mentioned
>>> 100 mph winds and vehicles being blown over.  Superior and
>>> Louisville, CO
>>> have been evacuated.   The article has pictures.
>>> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10356817/Wildfire-spreads-Boulder-Louisville-power-lines-down.html>
>>>
>>
>> Whilst living in Germany in the 70's, fire departments
>> were almost unheard of.  Everyone built their houses
>> out of cinder blocks.  The insides were really nice
>> too.
>>
>> Anyone have an comments on why we use such flamible
>> materials here?
>>
>> -T
>
> Many reasons, cost being one factor, material availability another.
>
> To say they don't have fire departments because the house is built from
> cinder blocks makes no sense.  The four walls may stand, but the
> contents and roof structure sure burn.
They had fire departments, just not a lot of them.
Their roofs did not burn either. Don't remember
what they were made of, but it certainly was
not shake roofs. Slade maybe? I the three years
I was there, I do not remember a single house fire
(I lived on the economy.)

On 1/3/22 06:16, angelica...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Monday, January 3, 2022 at 7:18:17 AM UTC-5, T wrote:
>> On 12/31/21 03:40, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>> Home builders/fixers will be busy. I think the article mentioned
>>> 100 mph winds and vehicles being blown over. Superior and Louisville, CO
>>> have been evacuated. The article has pictures.
>>> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10356817/Wildfire-spreads-Boulder-Louisville-power-lines-down.html>
>> Whilst living in Germany in the 70's, fire departments
>> were almost unheard of. Everyone built their houses
>> out of cinder blocks. The insides were really nice
>> too.
>>
>> Anyone have an comments on why we use such flamible
>> materials here?
>
> Available. Inexpensive. Easy for amateurs to work with. And now,
> of course, traditional.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Good explanation

On 1/3/2022 11:25 AM, T wrote:
> On 1/3/22 06:27, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 1/3/2022 7:18 AM, T wrote:
>>> On 12/31/21 03:40, Dean Hoffman wrote:
>>>>      Home builders/fixers will be busy.  I think the article mentioned
>>>> 100 mph winds and vehicles being blown over.  Superior and
>>>> Louisville, CO
>>>> have been evacuated.   The article has pictures.
>>>> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10356817/Wildfire-spreads-Boulder-Louisville-power-lines-down.html>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Whilst living in Germany in the 70's, fire departments
>>> were almost unheard of.  Everyone built their houses
>>> out of cinder blocks.  The insides were really nice
>>> too.
>>>
>>> Anyone have an comments on why we use such flamible
>>> materials here?
>>>
>>> -T
>>
>> Many reasons, cost being one factor, material availability another.
>>
>> To say they don't have fire departments because the house is built
>> from cinder blocks makes no sense.  The four walls may stand, but the
>> contents and roof structure sure burn.
>
> They had fire departments, just not a lot of them.
> Their roofs did not burn either.  Don't remember
> what they were made of, but it certainly was
> not shake roofs.  Slade maybe?   I the three years
> I was there, I do not remember a single house fire
> (I lived on the economy.)

Probably slate roof, just like Notre Dame Cathedral. Yeah, fireproof.

Regardless of what the outer structure is, a kitchen fire can start
cabinets. smoking can start furniture, heaters can start carpets and
flooring.

Sure, the walls will still be good but little else.

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote
> Dean Hoffman wrote

>> Home builders/fixers will be busy. I think the article mentioned
>> 100 mph winds and vehicles being blown over. Superior and Louisville, CO
>> have been evacuated. The article has pictures.
>> <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10356817/Wildfire-spreads-Boulder-Louisville-power-lines-down.html>

> Whilst living in Germany in the 70's, fire departments were almost unheard
> of.

Bullshit.

> Everyone built their houses out of cinder blocks.

More bullshit as streetview proves.

> The insides were really nice too.

> Anyone have an comments on why we use such flamible materials here?

Its cheap and quick to do.