https://news.yahoo.com/price-stamps-going-again-much-220421261.html

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 6:21:01 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> https://news.yahoo.com/price-stamps-going-again-much-220421261.html
One kind of protest against increased mail rates would be to prevent all the 4th class mail from being sent, including all addressed to no one in particular. Tired of removing all the flotsome from my mailbox that I don't read.

Invasion of privacy could apply to phone calls from "poll takers," too, as well as email trash. Seems like those selling "free" apps preventing Internet garbage are also selling our information to third party sellers.

On 10/19/22 1:04 PM, Dim Witte wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 6:21:01 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
>> https://news.yahoo.com/price-stamps-going-again-much-220421261.html
> One kind of protest against increased mail rates would be to prevent all the 4th class mail from being sent, including all addressed to no one in particular. Tired of removing all the flotsome from my mailbox that I don't read.
>
> Invasion of privacy could apply to phone calls from "poll takers," too, as well as email trash. Seems like those selling "free" apps preventing Internet garbage are also selling our information to third party sellers.

Apparently junk mail subsidizes the first class stuff.

I KNOW they sold my mom's forwarding address to whoever would buy it
after the 1-year forward expired -- after that the begging letters came
to HER name at MY address. She was always annoyed that the charities
she supported wasted her money by begging for more. After 5 years I
think she broke even.

--
Cheers, Bev
They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq. Why don't
we just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys,
it's worked for over 200 years, and we're not using it any more.

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 7:21:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:
> https://news.yahoo.com/price-stamps-going-again-much-220421261.html

https://news.yahoo.com/finance/news/usps-plans-another-price-hike-212253777..html

On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 6:20:13 PM UTC-8, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 10/19/22 1:04 PM, Dim Witte wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 6:21:01 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> >> https://news.yahoo.com/price-stamps-going-again-much-220421261.html
> > One kind of protest against increased mail rates would be to prevent all the 4th class mail from being sent, including all addressed to no one in particular. Tired of removing all the flotsome from my mailbox that I don't read.
> >
> > Invasion of privacy could apply to phone calls from "poll takers," too, as well as email trash. Seems like those selling "free" apps preventing Internet garbage are also selling our information to third party sellers.
> Apparently junk mail subsidizes the first class stuff.
>
> I KNOW they sold my mom's forwarding address to whoever would buy it
> after the 1-year forward expired -- after that the begging letters came
> to HER name at MY address. She was always annoyed that the charities
> she supported wasted her money by begging for more. After 5 years I
> think she broke even.
>
> --
> Cheers, Bev
> They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq. Why don't
> we just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys,
> it's worked for over 200 years, and we're not using it any more.

Was a U.S. President's wife, Eleanor Roosevelt, who advocated additions to the Constitution during the Depression, labeling them "progressive." So if we start changing federal laws, maybe we could have: 1) a national banking system run by bureaucrats; 2) change in State Department trading with foreign countries, barring countries not aligned with our constitution; 3)citizenship limited, no dual citizenships, and citizenship required to vote; 4) withdrawal of military missions in foreign countries; 5) use of social reform work camps for dissenters; 6) federal insurance for medical, home, auto, burial; 7) elections not referencing political parties, no private use of donations by PAC and other NFP organizations; 8) votes for each candidate either Yes, No, or ?, with Nos subtracted from Yeses; 9) censorship of media, social engineering, public school propaganda; 10) some federal programs open 7-days a week, and no more federal holidays.

On Saturday, April 15, 2023 at 6:32:24 PM UTC-7, Dim Witte wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 6:20:13 PM UTC-8, The Real Bev wrote:
> > On 10/19/22 1:04 PM, Dim Witte wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 6:21:01 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
> > >> https://news.yahoo.com/price-stamps-going-again-much-220421261.html
> > > One kind of protest against increased mail rates would be to prevent all the 4th class mail from being sent, including all addressed to no one in particular. Tired of removing all the flotsome from my mailbox that I don't read.
> > >
> > > Invasion of privacy could apply to phone calls from "poll takers," too, as well as email trash. Seems like those selling "free" apps preventing Internet garbage are also selling our information to third party sellers.
> > Apparently junk mail subsidizes the first class stuff.
> >
> > I KNOW they sold my mom's forwarding address to whoever would buy it
> > after the 1-year forward expired -- after that the begging letters came
> > to HER name at MY address. She was always annoyed that the charities
> > she supported wasted her money by begging for more. After 5 years I
> > think she broke even.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers, Bev
> > They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq. Why don't
> > we just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys,
> > it's worked for over 200 years, and we're not using it any more.
> Was a U.S. President's wife, Eleanor Roosevelt, who advocated additions to the Constitution during the Depression, labeling them "progressive." So if we start changing federal laws, maybe we could have: 1) a national banking system run by bureaucrats; 2) change in State Department trading with foreign countries, barring countries not aligned with our constitution; 3)citizenship limited, no dual citizenships, and citizenship required to vote; 4) withdrawal of military missions in foreign countries; 5) use of social reform work camps for dissenters; 6) federal insurance for medical, home, auto, burial; 7) elections not referencing political parties, no private use of donations by PAC and other NFP organizations; 8) votes for each candidate either Yes, No, or ?, with Nos subtracted from Yeses; 9) censorship of media, social engineering, public school propaganda; 10) some federal programs open 7-days a week, and no more federal holidays.

Does that have anything to do with stamps?

On 4/15/23 6:32 PM, Dim Witte wrote:

> Was a U.S. President's wife, Eleanor Roosevelt, who advocated additions to the Constitution during the Depression, labeling them "progressive." So if we start changing federal laws, maybe we could have: 1) a national banking system run by bureaucrats...

When postage was cheap and fast it WAS a government function. At some
point it was converted (much like what happened in the Soviet Union,
apparently) to some sort of quasi-private entity and things slowed down
considerably. According to the inflation calculator, a 1945 3-cent
stamp should cost 50 cents today.

There were several businesses across the street. Every once in a while
we would get first-class mail that had been rubber -stamped "Mistakenly
delivered to _____" It happened so often that both businesses had
RUBBER STAMPS MADE. Not certain if this was before or after the
conversion. We also got a piece of mail stamped "Found in a container
thought to be empty" by the USPS. It might have been years late, but
maybe only months or weeks.

We also took something to the post office to air-mail it to England. We
paid what they asked. Several weeks later it was returned for
insufficient postage. Write your own punch line.

--
Cheers, Bev
People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's
safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs. --Unknown

The Real Bev wrote:

> On 4/15/23 6:32 PM, Dim Witte wrote:
>
>> Was a U.S. President's wife, Eleanor Roosevelt, who
>> advocated additions to the Constitution during the
>> Depression, labeling them "progressive." So if we start
>> changing federal laws, maybe we could have: 1) a
>> national banking system run by bureaucrats...
>
> When postage was cheap and fast it WAS a government
> function. At some point it was converted (much like what
> happened in the Soviet Union, apparently) to some sort of
> quasi-private entity and things slowed down
> considerably. According to the inflation calculator, a
> 1945 3-cent stamp should cost 50 cents today.
>
> There were several businesses across the street. Every
> once in a while we would get first-class mail that had
> been rubber -stamped "Mistakenly
> delivered to _____" It happened so often that both
> businesses had
> RUBBER STAMPS MADE. Not certain if this was before or
> after the
> conversion. We also got a piece of mail stamped "Found in
> a container
> thought to be empty" by the USPS. It might have been
> years late, but maybe only months or weeks.
>
> We also took something to the post office to air-mail it
> to England. We
> paid what they asked. Several weeks later it was returned
> for
> insufficient postage. Write your own punch line.
>
>
I had sort of a similar problem. I mailed an envelope to
the UK, paid the postage at the customer window and handed
over the envelope.

It showed up a week or two later in my post office box
(in another city). My pop picked up the mail and saw
the no-postage, so *he* took it to the customer window
at that post office and re-paid the postage. Later when
he told me what happened and teased me about forgetting
the postage, I told him that I *had* paid, they simply
didn't bother to put it on the envelope.

I dug out my receipt and next time I was in the area of
the stoopid post office, I took it in and showed it
to the guy at the counter, who turned out to be both
the man who took the postage money from me in the first
place AND was the postmaster for that branch!

After a back-and-forth, I got my money back and never
used that post office branch again.

Nyssa, who is gob-smacked that her post office box rent
is going from $98/year to $276/year and wonders why the
price of the mail clerk to put the mail in a hole in the
wall in the same building he/she is already in costs so
much more all of a sudden