https://www.reddit.com/r/rollercoasters/comments/oal292/el_toro_partially_derailed_details_in_comments/

Oh, Intamin.

> Oh, Intamin.

More like....

Oh, Six Flags <3

On 6/30/21 1:55 AM, BaSSiStiStiSt wrote:
> https://www.reddit.com/r/rollercoasters/comments/oal292/el_toro_partially_derailed_details_in_comments/
>
> Oh, Intamin.
>

Anybody have an new info on this? I was at the park yesterday (7/7)
and none of the ops/etc. knew much. There were a number of people out
on the track looking to be doing some work but too far away to really
tell what. And some hammering noises from somewhere.

No visible damage from the distance (Zumanjaro's walkway.)

Anybody?

On Thursday, July 8, 2021 at 11:27:59 AM UTC-4, Bob Rahe wrote:
> On 6/30/21 1:55 AM, BaSSiStiStiSt wrote:
> > https://www.reddit.com/r/rollercoasters/comments/oal292/el_toro_partially_derailed_details_in_comments/
> >
> > Oh, Intamin.
> >
>
> Anybody have an new info on this? I was at the park yesterday (7/7)
> and none of the ops/etc. knew much. There were a number of people out
> on the track looking to be doing some work but too far away to really
> tell what. And some hammering noises from somewhere.
>
> No visible damage from the distance (Zumanjaro's walkway.)
>
> Anybody?

I don’t, but anyone know how long they expect the ride to be down? Is this a “won’t reopen until 2022 situation?

On Thursday, July 8, 2021 at 11:27:59 AM UTC-4, Bob Rahe wrote:
> On 6/30/21 1:55 AM, BaSSiStiStiSt wrote:
> > https://www.reddit.com/r/rollercoasters/comments/oal292/el_toro_partially_derailed_details_in_comments/
> >
> > Oh, Intamin.
> >
>
> Anybody have an new info on this? I was at the park yesterday (7/7)
> and none of the ops/etc. knew much. There were a number of people out
> on the track looking to be doing some work but too far away to really
> tell what. And some hammering noises from somewhere.
>
> No visible damage from the distance (Zumanjaro's walkway.)
>
> Anybody?
______

It's park policy for frontline employees to reapond with
"I don't know", when asked about major rides issues by
members of the visitng public.

You might be able to speak with management directly by
inquiring at your parks Customer/Guest Services office, if such
exists.

On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 10:25:14 AM UTC-4, surfd...@aol.com wrote:

> I don’t, but anyone know how long they expect the ride to be down? Is this a “won’t reopen until 2022 situation?

Seems very possible, if there's any track damage. Since of course the prefab track can't really be repaired...

On 6/30/21 1:55 AM, BaSSiStiStiSt wrote:
> https://www.reddit.com/r/rollercoasters/comments/oal292/el_toro_partially_derailed_details_in_comments/
>
> Oh, Intamin.
>

Some more info, not much...

<https://www.nj.com/ocean/2021/07/rear-wheels-moved-out-of-position-in-six-flags-roller-coaster-derailment-report-finds.html>

El Toro had another incident yesterday that apparently sent several to the hospital. It’s unclear so far whether the incident seems related or similar to this one from last year.

On Friday, 26 August 2022 at 06:00:18 UTC+1, surfd...@aol.com wrote:
> El Toro had another incident yesterday that apparently sent several to the hospital. It’s unclear so far whether the incident seems related or similar to this one from last year.

I think it might be time to review whether really big wood coasters are a good idea.

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www.superiorsolitaire.com

On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:55:03 AM UTC-4, Richard Bannister wrote:
> On Friday, 26 August 2022 at 06:00:18 UTC+1, surfd...@aol.com wrote:
> > El Toro had another incident yesterday that apparently sent several to the hospital. It’s unclear so far whether the incident seems related or similar to this one from last year.
> I think it might be time to review whether really big wood coasters are a good idea.
>
> -
> www.superiorsolitaire.com
Fair enough, but the question I would ask is “Does Intamin’s record merit concern?” To your point though, I think it’s safe to say that traditional wooden coaster construction is more appropriate for smaller installations, perhaps just a little over 100 feet tall.

..On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 1:48:14 PM UTC-4, Doug Miller wrote:
> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:55:03 AM UTC-4, Richard Bannister wrote:
> > On Friday, 26 August 2022 at 06:00:18 UTC+1, surfd...@aol.com wrote:
> > > El Toro had another incident yesterday that apparently sent several to the hospital. It’s unclear so far whether the incident seems related or similar to this one from last year.
> > I think it might be time to review whether really big wood coasters are a good idea.
> >
> > -
> > www.superiorsolitaire.com
> Fair enough, but the question I would ask is “Does Intamin’s record merit concern?” To your point though, I think it’s safe to say that traditional wooden coaster construction is more appropriate for smaller installations, perhaps just a little over 100 feet tall.
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Absolutely not.

I've rideen El Toro, and have ridden other woodies in its size
class. AAnd one thing that stuck out in my mind about ET is
the sheer dynamics of its program - very steep drops, and extreme
hill, and sharp rolling turns. All of these impose stress on even
a hybrid wood with steel frame, and might explain the recent history
of malfunctioning of this ride.

Such sudden changes in direction, in both the Y and X axes, stress
connecting points between track and structural members, and even
warp the gauge(width) of the track.

ET packs a lot of dynamic elements into a relatively small footprint
for a coaster of its height and size, and that is where I believe the
problems lay.

On Friday, September 23, 2022 at 9:09:48 AM UTC-4, TheK-ManRocks wrote:
> .On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 1:48:14 PM UTC-4, Doug Miller wrote:
> > On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:55:03 AM UTC-4, Richard Bannister wrote:
> > > On Friday, 26 August 2022 at 06:00:18 UTC+1, surfd...@aol.com wrote:
> > > > El Toro had another incident yesterday that apparently sent several to the hospital. It’s unclear so far whether the incident seems related or similar to this one from last year.
> > > I think it might be time to review whether really big wood coasters are a good idea.
> > >
> > > -
> > > www.superiorsolitaire.com
> > Fair enough, but the question I would ask is “Does Intamin’s record merit concern?” To your point though, I think it’s safe to say that traditional wooden coaster construction is more appropriate for smaller installations, perhaps just a little over 100 feet tall.
> ________
>
> Absolutely not.
>
> I've rideen El Toro, and have ridden other woodies in its size
> class. AAnd one thing that stuck out in my mind about ET is
> the sheer dynamics of its program - very steep drops, and extreme
> hill, and sharp rolling turns. All of these impose stress on even
> a hybrid wood with steel frame, and might explain the recent history
> of malfunctioning of this ride.
>
> Such sudden changes in direction, in both the Y and X axes, stress
> connecting points between track and structural members, and even
> warp the gauge(width) of the track.
>
>
> ET packs a lot of dynamic elements into a relatively small footprint
> for a coaster of its height and size, and that is where I believe the
> problems lay.

Any new news or updates about El Toro and it’s future?

On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 7:32:56 PM UTC-8, Surf Dance Chris wrote:
> Any new news or updates about El Toro and it’s future?

El Toro has been testing.

On Sunday, June 11, 2023 at 9:37:49 PM UTC-4, Rik P wrote:
> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 7:32:56 PM UTC-8, Surf Dance Chris wrote:
> > Any new news or updates about El Toro and it’s future?
> El Toro has been testing.

That’s a good sign! I heard that park has been struggling with its operations this season.

They announced recently it’s reopening tomorrow June 17!