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 by: cicero - Tue, 27 Apr 2021 17:11 UTC

The polls showed in a more or less ratings between them. The journey to
change has many processes.

They are many obstacles to changes as there will be those opposing the
present president will not want to change nor even smooth the changes at
all.

It showed the people of two opposing party are not honest with their rating.
They gave lower rating in order to oppose.

They also do not know what policies changed could make a difference for them
between the past and present president of a different party.

They seriously see no changes to their lives except changes of their
president they chose by them.

The only difference will be when they engage a war with another country of
significant power to them.

That is why every president likes to delight the Americans with some
military or economic sanctions in order to demonstrate its prowess.

Otherwise, if they do not have such external engagements, they will not have
any jobs to do. They will have no work to process and no work anymore.

Their thousands of staff will be idling every day. They will be yawning away
thumping the fingers on the desk.

In short, whether this president or the past president, the Americans like
their lives to remain as as normally as usual with white supremacy being the
key, and subduing the Blacks and Asian Americans.

"ltlee1" wrote in message
news:eae86570-569c-4b53-9740-d8436448e46an@googlegroups.com...

On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 10:49:45 AM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
> "Just 10 weeks into the Biden administration, the new president’s
> governing vision has come into focus. He plans to transform America in
> multiple ways based on a popular mandate that doesn’t exist. This
> represents an audacity that likely will ensure that history will peg Joe
> Biden as a man who, when faced with a country in severe civic turbulence,
> further agitated the roiling waters of national politics.
> To comprehend the significance of this development, compare Biden’s
> presidential victory last fall with those of the 20th century’s two most
> transformative presidents, Franklin Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan. Both
> redirected the course of American politics, and in pushing their bold
> agendas each had at his back a magnitude of popular support that
> constituted a mandate from the American people for change and
> experimentation. Absent that, a new president generally must build a
> mandate through careful and judicious decision making designed to fashion
> a governing coalition over time."
>
> https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/joe-bidens-non-existent-mandate/
>
> 1) Joe Biden won the election.
> 2) Joe Biden has no mandate.
> Are 1) and 2) contradictory?
>
> Yes, the author of the article also write "a new president generally must
> build a mandate through careful and judicious decision making designed to
> fashion a governing coalition over time." However, 1) he gives no example
> of successful cases. And 2), such approach begs the question that why
> candidates don't enter the race with a political platform which would win
> him or her a solid mandate?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-biden-100-day-milestone

"As Joe Biden closes in on the 100-day mark of his presidency, a Fox News
poll finds a 54 percent majority of voters approves of his job performance.
That's lower than Barack Obama's 62 percent and George W. Bush's 63 percent
approval at their respective 100-day points, but higher than the 45 percent
Donald Trump received four years ago.
....

Biden’s job approval ratings are below 50 percent on every top issue, with
one exception: 58 percent approve on coronavirus (34 percent disapprove).
His ratings are lower, but still net positive on health care (48 percent
approve - 37 percent disapprove), the economy (48-42), and foreign policy
(42-41). More disapprove than approve on guns (36-49), border security
(35-51), and immigration (34-52).

Among Hispanics, a group whose 2020 election support for Biden lagged
expectations, his 72 percent approval overall drops to 54 percent for his
handling of immigration and 44 percent for border security. "

Poll results reinforce the view that Biden has weak mandate from the people.
BTW, Biden got 54% approval from Foxnews Poll and only 52% from more
liberal Washington Post-ABC Poll.

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 by: ltlee1 - Tue, 27 Apr 2021 18:11 UTC

On Tuesday, April 27, 2021 at 1:11:43 PM UTC-4, cicero wrote:
> The polls showed in a more or less ratings between them. The journey to
> change has many processes.
>
> They are many obstacles to changes as there will be those opposing the
> present president will not want to change nor even smooth the changes at
> all.
>
> It showed the people of two opposing party are not honest with their rating.
> They gave lower rating in order to oppose.
>
> They also do not know what policies changed could make a difference for them
> between the past and present president of a different party.
>
> They seriously see no changes to their lives except changes of their
> president they chose by them.

The nation is still deeply divided.
1. "Stuck: Most still say Biden ‘cheating’ beat Trump"
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/stuck-most-still-say-biden-cheating-beat-trump
"By a margin of 51%-44%, voters said it is “likely” that cheating affected the outcome. That included 74% of Republicans and 30% of Democrats.
Some 47% said it is likely Democrats stole or destroyed ballots for former President Donald Trump. That included 75% of Republicans and 30% of Democrats. An even 50% said that it is unlikely ballots were destroyed."

Basically, voters do not trust the opposite side and their choice for president.

2. Multiparty system would not work if the issues involved do not naturally offer common ground.
Currently, the issues are God (include America is the new Canaan from God), gun, and gender.

>
> The only difference will be when they engage a war with another country of
> significant power to them.

>
> That is why every president likes to delight the Americans with some
> military or economic sanctions in order to demonstrate its prowess.
>
> Otherwise, if they do not have such external engagements, they will not have
> any jobs to do. They will have no work to process and no work anymore.
>
> Their thousands of staff will be idling every day. They will be yawning away
> thumping the fingers on the desk.

Actually, the president has no mandate to engage foreign war. The government had to
misled the people on Iraqi involvement of the 9/11 bombing to obtain an excuse to
invade Iraq.
>
> In short, whether this president or the past president, the Americans like
> their lives to remain as as normally as usual with white supremacy being the
> key, and subduing the Blacks and Asian Americans.

Democracy is based on TRUST. When elected officials betrayed the people trust,
year after year, people are frustrated and many are angry.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "ltlee1" wrote in message
> news:eae86570-569c-4b53...@googlegroups.com...
> On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 10:49:45 AM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:
> > "Just 10 weeks into the Biden administration, the new president’s
> > governing vision has come into focus. He plans to transform America in
> > multiple ways based on a popular mandate that doesn’t exist. This
> > represents an audacity that likely will ensure that history will peg Joe
> > Biden as a man who, when faced with a country in severe civic turbulence,
> > further agitated the roiling waters of national politics.
> > To comprehend the significance of this development, compare Biden’s
> > presidential victory last fall with those of the 20th century’s two most
> > transformative presidents, Franklin Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan. Both
> > redirected the course of American politics, and in pushing their bold
> > agendas each had at his back a magnitude of popular support that
> > constituted a mandate from the American people for change and
> > experimentation. Absent that, a new president generally must build a
> > mandate through careful and judicious decision making designed to fashion
> > a governing coalition over time."
> >
> > https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/joe-bidens-non-existent-mandate/
> >
> > 1) Joe Biden won the election.
> > 2) Joe Biden has no mandate.
> > Are 1) and 2) contradictory?
> >
> > Yes, the author of the article also write "a new president generally must
> > build a mandate through careful and judicious decision making designed to
> > fashion a governing coalition over time." However, 1) he gives no example
> > of successful cases. And 2), such approach begs the question that why
> > candidates don't enter the race with a political platform which would win
> > him or her a solid mandate?
>
> https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-biden-100-day-milestone
>
> "As Joe Biden closes in on the 100-day mark of his presidency, a Fox News
> poll finds a 54 percent majority of voters approves of his job performance.
> That's lower than Barack Obama's 62 percent and George W. Bush's 63 percent
> approval at their respective 100-day points, but higher than the 45 percent
> Donald Trump received four years ago.
> ...
>
> Biden’s job approval ratings are below 50 percent on every top issue, with
> one exception: 58 percent approve on coronavirus (34 percent disapprove).
> His ratings are lower, but still net positive on health care (48 percent
> approve - 37 percent disapprove), the economy (48-42), and foreign policy
> (42-41). More disapprove than approve on guns (36-49), border security
> (35-51), and immigration (34-52).
>
> Among Hispanics, a group whose 2020 election support for Biden lagged
> expectations, his 72 percent approval overall drops to 54 percent for his
> handling of immigration and 44 percent for border security. "
>
> Poll results reinforce the view that Biden has weak mandate from the people.
> BTW, Biden got 54% approval from Foxnews Poll and only 52% from more
> liberal Washington Post-ABC Poll.


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