"Ligne 3 bis du métro de Paris"
"Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"

Google translate will not translate the bis.

Le 22/12/2022 à 10:57, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>
> "Ligne 3 bis du métro de Paris"
> "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"
>
> Google translate will not translate the bis.

'Bis' designates a second, alternative, or repeated instance. For
example, an itinéraire bis is an alternative route. Ligne 3 bis is a
branch off Ligne 3. It's also used for house numbering, where new
addresses have been created:

'Two Front Doors! – Special French Addresses' -
<https://blogs.transparent.com/french/two-front-doors-special-french-addresses/>

Dictionnaire Larousse -
<https://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/bis/9553>

The translation depends on context. A new flat, numbered 3 bis in
France, would likely be 3A here.

That's all I know.

On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 2:58:01 AM UTC-8, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> "Ligne 3 bis du métro de Paris"
> "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"
>
> Google translate will not translate the bis.
>
In modem standards, bis was added to the name of a standard when it was revised/ updated.
For example V32bis was an revised update of V32.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ITU-T_V-series_recommendations

I can't imagine what Ligne 3 bis means though. A revised update of Line 3 seems
unlikely; bis might have another meaning too.

Ah, I just looked at the thread; it's an alternative routing of Line 3, a fork presumably.
Line 3A and Line 3B would be a less confusing way to distinguish the 2 routes.

Hibou <h.i@b.ou> writes:
>'Bis' designates a second, alternative, or repeated instance.

I can find "bis" even in an English dictionary:
"Music. Again; twice. Used as a direction to
repeat a passage. - interj. Used to request
an additional performance."

"Biscuit" comes from latin "bis coctus", twice
cooked.

On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:42:58 -0000, Hibou <h.i@b.ou> wrote:

> Le 22/12/2022 à 10:57, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>
>> "Ligne 3 bis du métro de Paris"
>> "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"
>>
>> Google translate will not translate the bis.
>
> 'Bis' designates a second, alternative, or repeated instance. For
> example, an itinéraire bis is an alternative route. Ligne 3 bis is a
> branch off Ligne 3. It's also used for house numbering, where new
> addresses have been created:
>
> 'Two Front Doors! – Special French Addresses' -
> <https://blogs.transparent.com/french/two-front-doors-special-french-addresses/>
>
> Dictionnaire Larousse -
> <https://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/bis/9553>
>
> The translation depends on context. A new flat, numbered 3 bis in
> France, would likely be 3A here.
>
> That's all I know.

Ah thanks, that makes sense for the first one. Strange Google couldn't translate it.

But "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"?

On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 13:33:53 -0000, Stefan Ram <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:

> Hibou <h.i@b.ou> writes:
>> 'Bis' designates a second, alternative, or repeated instance.
>
> I can find "bis" even in an English dictionary:
> "Music. Again; twice. Used as a direction to
> repeat a passage. - interj. Used to request
> an additional performance."

I'd never heard bis in English. But I saw it in a French sentence so I assumed it was French only.

> "Biscuit" comes from latin "bis coctus", twice
> cooked.

Perhaps Google decided to just leave it as is, assuming I knew the word bis in English.

On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:42:58 -0000, Hibou <h.i@b.ou> wrote:

> Le 22/12/2022 à 10:57, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>
>> "Ligne 3 bis du métro de Paris"
>> "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"
>>
>> Google translate will not translate the bis.
>
> 'Bis' designates a second, alternative, or repeated instance. For
> example, an itinéraire bis is an alternative route. Ligne 3 bis is a
> branch off Ligne 3. It's also used for house numbering, where new
> addresses have been created:
>
> 'Two Front Doors! – Special French Addresses' -
> <https://blogs.transparent.com/french/two-front-doors-special-french-addresses/>
>
> Dictionnaire Larousse -
> <https://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/bis/9553>
>
> The translation depends on context. A new flat, numbered 3 bis in
> France, would likely be 3A here.

What would they call 3B?

Le 22/12/2022 à 15:02, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
> On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:42:58 -0000, Hibou wrote:
>> Le 22/12/2022 à 10:57, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>>
>>> "Ligne 3 bis du métro de Paris"
>>> "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"
>>>
>>> Google translate will not translate the bis.
>>
>> 'Bis' designates a second, alternative, or repeated instance. For
>> example, an itinéraire bis is an alternative route. Ligne 3 bis is a
>> branch off Ligne 3. It's also used for house numbering, where new
>> addresses have been created [...]
>
> Ah thanks, that makes sense for the first one.  Strange Google couldn't
> translate it.
>
> But "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"?

It does seem odd, that one. Can you supply any context?

On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 7:03:50 AM UTC-8, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 13:33:53 -0000, Stefan Ram <r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> > Hibou <h...@b.ou> writes:
> >> 'Bis' designates a second, alternative, or repeated instance.
> >
> > I can find "bis" even in an English dictionary:
> > "Music. Again; twice. Used as a direction to
> > repeat a passage. - interj. Used to request
> > an additional performance."
>
> I'd never heard bis in English. But I saw it in a French sentence so I assumed it was French only.
>
> > "Biscuit" comes from latin "bis coctus", twice
> > cooked.
>
> Perhaps Google decided to just leave it as is, assuming I knew the word bis in English.

In Dutch I remember from a long time ago and in French and English I've seen, more recently,
"bis" meanstwice, or again, as in a printed direction to repeat the chorus of a song or poem. This is
consistent with some of the quoted material above.

bill

On 23/12/22 17:47, Hibou wrote:
> Le 22/12/2022 à 15:02, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>> On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:42:58 -0000, Hibou wrote:
>>> Le 22/12/2022 à 10:57, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> "Ligne 3 bis du métro de Paris"
>>>> "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"
>>>>
>>>> Google translate will not translate the bis.
>>>
>>> 'Bis' designates a second, alternative, or repeated instance. For
>>> example, an itinéraire bis is an alternative route. Ligne 3 bis is a
>>> branch off Ligne 3. It's also used for house numbering, where new
>>> addresses have been created [...]
>>
>> Ah thanks, that makes sense for the first one. Strange Google
>> couldn't translate it.
>>
>> But "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"?
>
> It does seem odd, that one. Can you supply any context?

It could be a version number or a model number, analogous to "version 1.3a".

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 10:22:49 -0000, Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

> On 23/12/22 17:47, Hibou wrote:
>> Le 22/12/2022 à 15:02, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>> On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:42:58 -0000, Hibou wrote:
>>>> Le 22/12/2022 à 10:57, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> "Ligne 3 bis du métro de Paris"
>>>>> "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"
>>>>>
>>>>> Google translate will not translate the bis.
>>>>
>>>> 'Bis' designates a second, alternative, or repeated instance. For
>>>> example, an itinéraire bis is an alternative route. Ligne 3 bis is a
>>>> branch off Ligne 3. It's also used for house numbering, where new
>>>> addresses have been created [...]
>>>
>>> Ah thanks, that makes sense for the first one. Strange Google
>>> couldn't translate it.
>>>
>>> But "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"?
>>
>> It does seem odd, that one. Can you supply any context?
>
> It could be a version number or a model number, analogous to "version 1.3a".

Seems odd to put a version number there. Here's the page: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185084614880
Perhaps it should be 1.3A, as in amps, but that would drain an AA bloody fast.

On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 2:58:17 AM UTC-5, bil...@shaw.ca wrote:
> On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 7:03:50 AM UTC-8, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> > On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 13:33:53 -0000, Stefan Ram <r...@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> > > Hibou <h...@b.ou> writes:
> > >> 'Bis' designates a second, alternative, or repeated instance.
> > >
> > > I can find "bis" even in an English dictionary:
> > > "Music. Again; twice. Used as a direction to
> > > repeat a passage. - interj. Used to request
> > > an additional performance."
> >
> > I'd never heard bis in English. But I saw it in a French sentence so I assumed it was French only.
> >
> > > "Biscuit" comes from latin "bis coctus", twice
> > > cooked.
> >
> > Perhaps Google decided to just leave it as is, assuming I knew the word bis in English.
>
> In Dutch I remember from a long time ago and in French and English I've seen, more recently,
> "bis" meanstwice, or again, as in a printed direction to repeat the chorus of a song or poem. This is
> consistent with some of the quoted material above.

In Dutch << één bis tien >> means one to ten [in English].
In German << eins bis zehn >> means one to ten [in English]

Le 23/12/2022 à 17:42, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 10:22:49 -0000, Peter Moylan
> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>> On 23/12/22 17:47, Hibou wrote:
>>> Le 22/12/2022 à 15:02, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> But "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"?
>>>
>>> It does seem odd, that one. Can you supply any context?
>>
>> It could be a version number or a model number, analogous to "version
>> 1.3a".
>
> Seems odd to put a version number there.  Here's the page:
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185084614880
> Perhaps it should be 1.3A, as in amps, but that would drain an AA bloody
> fast.

Beats me, even after googling.

On 2022-12-24 02:30, Hibou wrote:
> Le 23/12/2022 à 17:42, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 10:22:49 -0000, Peter Moylan
>> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 23/12/22 17:47, Hibou wrote:
>>>> Le 22/12/2022 à 15:02, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> But "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"?
>>>>
>>>> It does seem odd, that one. Can you supply any context?
>>>
>>> It could be a version number or a model number, analogous to "version
>>> 1.3a".
>>
>> Seems odd to put a version number there.  Here's the page:
>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185084614880
>> Perhaps it should be 1.3A, as in amps, but that would drain an AA
>> bloody fast.
>
> Beats me, even after googling.

I decided to ask the seller. I sent:

"What does "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt" mean?
I am wondering about the word 'bis'."

The response was less than helpful.

I received:

"1,3-Bisphosphoglyceric acid (1,3-Bisphosphoglycerate or 1,3BPG) is a
3-carbon organic molecule present in most, if not all, living organisms.
It primarily exists as a metabolic intermediate in both glycolysis
during respiration and the Calvin cycle during photosynthesis. 1,3BPG is
a transitional stage between glycerate 3-phosphate and glyceraldehyde
3-phosphate during the fixation/reduction of CO2. 1,3BPG is also a
precursor to 2,3-bisphosphoglycerate which in turn is a reaction
intermediate in the glycolytic pathway."

--
Why experiment on animals with so many politicians out there?

Le vendredi 23 décembre 2022 à 18:42:33 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 10:22:49 -0000, Peter Moylan <pe...@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>
> > On 23/12/22 17:47, Hibou wrote:
> >> Le 22/12/2022 à 15:02, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
> >>> On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:42:58 -0000, Hibou wrote:
> >>>> Le 22/12/2022 à 10:57, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Ligne 3 bis du métro de Paris"
> >>>>> "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Google translate will not translate the bis.
> >>>>
> >>>> 'Bis' designates a second, alternative, or repeated instance. For
> >>>> example, an itinéraire bis is an alternative route. Ligne 3 bis is a
> >>>> branch off Ligne 3. It's also used for house numbering, where new
> >>>> addresses have been created [...]
> >>>
> >>> Ah thanks, that makes sense for the first one. Strange Google
> >>> couldn't translate it.
> >>>
> >>> But "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"?
> >>
> >> It does seem odd, that one. Can you supply any context?
> >
> > It could be a version number or a model number, analogous to "version 1..3a".
> Seems odd to put a version number there. Here's the page: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185084614880
> Perhaps it should be 1.3A, as in amps, but that would drain an AA bloody fast.

It seems "bis" just means "two" here, so that "1.3 bis" refers to 2 x 1.3 Ah batteries.

On 25/12/22 03:33, lar3ryca wrote:
> On 2022-12-24 02:30, Hibou wrote:
>> Le 23/12/2022 à 17:42, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 10:22:49 -0000, Peter Moylan
>>> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 23/12/22 17:47, Hibou wrote:
>>>>> Le 22/12/2022 à 15:02, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"?
>>>>>
>>>>> It does seem odd, that one. Can you supply any context?
>>>>
>>>> It could be a version number or a model number, analogous to
>>>> "version 1.3a".
>>>
>>> Seems odd to put a version number there. Here's the page:
>>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185084614880
>>> Perhaps it should be 1.3A, as in amps, but that would drain an AA
>>> bloody fast.
>>
>> Beats me, even after googling.
>
> I decided to ask the seller. I sent:
>
> "What does "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt" mean?
> I am wondering about the word 'bis'."
>
> The response was less than helpful.
>
> I received:
>
> "1,3-Bisphosphoglyceric acid (1,3-Bisphosphoglycerate or 1,3BPG) is a
> 3-carbon organic molecule present in most, if not all, living organisms.
> It primarily exists as a metabolic intermediate in both glycolysis
> during respiration and the Calvin cycle during photosynthesis. 1,3BPG is
> a transitional stage between glycerate 3-phosphate and glyceraldehyde
> 3-phosphate during the fixation/reduction of CO2. 1,3BPG is also a
> precursor to 2,3-bisphosphoglycerate which in turn is a reaction
> intermediate in the glycolytic pathway."

That doesn't sound like something you'd put in a battery.

I tried to check the original ad, but the link led only to a clock.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 22:59:36 -0000, Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

> On 25/12/22 03:33, lar3ryca wrote:
>> On 2022-12-24 02:30, Hibou wrote:
>>> Le 23/12/2022 à 17:42, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 10:22:49 -0000, Peter Moylan
>>>> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 23/12/22 17:47, Hibou wrote:
>>>>>> Le 22/12/2022 à 15:02, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It does seem odd, that one. Can you supply any context?
>>>>>
>>>>> It could be a version number or a model number, analogous to
>>>>> "version 1.3a".
>>>>
>>>> Seems odd to put a version number there. Here's the page:
>>>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185084614880
>>>> Perhaps it should be 1.3A, as in amps, but that would drain an AA
>>>> bloody fast.
>>>
>>> Beats me, even after googling.
>>
>> I decided to ask the seller. I sent:
>>
>> "What does "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt" mean?
>> I am wondering about the word 'bis'."
>>
>> The response was less than helpful.
>>
>> I received:
>>
>> "1,3-Bisphosphoglyceric acid (1,3-Bisphosphoglycerate or 1,3BPG) is a
>> 3-carbon organic molecule present in most, if not all, living organisms.
>> It primarily exists as a metabolic intermediate in both glycolysis
>> during respiration and the Calvin cycle during photosynthesis. 1,3BPG is
>> a transitional stage between glycerate 3-phosphate and glyceraldehyde
>> 3-phosphate during the fixation/reduction of CO2. 1,3BPG is also a
>> precursor to 2,3-bisphosphoglycerate which in turn is a reaction
>> intermediate in the glycolytic pathway."
>
> That doesn't sound like something you'd put in a battery.

I'd never heard of it either, but I did find "1,3-Bisphosphoglycerate is the conjugate base of 1,3-bisphosphoglyceric acid. It is phosphorylated at the number 1 and 3 carbons. The result of this phosphorylation gives 1,3BPG important biological properties such as the ability to phosphorylate ADP to form the energy storage molecule ATP."

Note "energy storage molecule" - so perhaps something to go in a battery?

> I tried to check the original ad, but the link led only to a clock.

It is a clock. It says it takes a battery, which is where bis is mentioned.

On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 16:33:18 -0000, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:

> On 2022-12-24 02:30, Hibou wrote:
>> Le 23/12/2022 à 17:42, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 10:22:49 -0000, Peter Moylan
>>> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 23/12/22 17:47, Hibou wrote:
>>>>> Le 22/12/2022 à 15:02, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"?
>>>>>
>>>>> It does seem odd, that one. Can you supply any context?
>>>>
>>>> It could be a version number or a model number, analogous to "version
>>>> 1.3a".
>>>
>>> Seems odd to put a version number there. Here's the page:
>>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185084614880
>>> Perhaps it should be 1.3A, as in amps, but that would drain an AA
>>> bloody fast.
>>
>> Beats me, even after googling.
>
> I decided to ask the seller. I sent:
>
> "What does "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt" mean?
> I am wondering about the word 'bis'."
>
> The response was less than helpful.
>
> I received:
>
> "1,3-Bisphosphoglyceric acid (1,3-Bisphosphoglycerate or 1,3BPG) is a
> 3-carbon organic molecule present in most, if not all, living organisms.
> It primarily exists as a metabolic intermediate in both glycolysis
> during respiration and the Calvin cycle during photosynthesis. 1,3BPG is
> a transitional stage between glycerate 3-phosphate and glyceraldehyde
> 3-phosphate during the fixation/reduction of CO2. 1,3BPG is also a
> precursor to 2,3-bisphosphoglycerate which in turn is a reaction
> intermediate in the glycolytic pathway."

That is very helpful, it's the battery used in the clock presumably.

On 2022-12-24 16:59, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 25/12/22 03:33, lar3ryca wrote:
>> On 2022-12-24 02:30, Hibou wrote:
>>> Le 23/12/2022 à 17:42, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 10:22:49 -0000, Peter Moylan
>>>> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 23/12/22 17:47, Hibou wrote:
>>>>>> Le 22/12/2022 à 15:02, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It does seem odd, that one. Can you supply any context?
>>>>>
>>>>> It could be a version number or a model number, analogous to
>>>>> "version 1.3a".
>>>>
>>>> Seems odd to put a version number there.  Here's the page:
>>>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185084614880
>>>> Perhaps it should be 1.3A, as in amps, but that would drain an AA
>>>> bloody fast.
>>>
>>> Beats me, even after googling.
>>
>> I decided to ask the seller. I sent:
>>
>> "What does "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt" mean?
>> I am wondering about the word 'bis'."
>>
>> The response was less than helpful.
>>
>> I received:
>>
>> "1,3-Bisphosphoglyceric acid (1,3-Bisphosphoglycerate or 1,3BPG) is a
>> 3-carbon organic molecule present in most, if not all, living organisms.
>> It primarily exists as a metabolic intermediate in both glycolysis
>> during respiration and the Calvin cycle during photosynthesis. 1,3BPG is
>> a transitional stage between glycerate 3-phosphate and glyceraldehyde
>> 3-phosphate during the fixation/reduction of CO2. 1,3BPG is also a
>> precursor to 2,3-bisphosphoglycerate which in turn is a reaction
>> intermediate in the glycolytic pathway."
>
> That doesn't sound like something you'd put in a battery.
>
> I tried to check the original ad, but the link led only to a clock.

Yes, that was the ad. It was for an "MCM Atomic DAUM France KIENZLE
Clock in Ornate Crystal Rock Art Glass".

Search that page for 'bis', and you'll see it.

I don't think the answer I got had anything to do with the product.

--
Golf is a game invented by the same people who think music comes out of
a bagpipe

On Sun, 25 Dec 2022 05:10:22 -0000, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:

> On 2022-12-24 16:59, Peter Moylan wrote:
>> On 25/12/22 03:33, lar3ryca wrote:
>>> On 2022-12-24 02:30, Hibou wrote:
>>>> Le 23/12/2022 à 17:42, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>>>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 10:22:49 -0000, Peter Moylan
>>>>> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/12/22 17:47, Hibou wrote:
>>>>>>> Le 22/12/2022 à 15:02, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It does seem odd, that one. Can you supply any context?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It could be a version number or a model number, analogous to
>>>>>> "version 1.3a".
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems odd to put a version number there. Here's the page:
>>>>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/185084614880
>>>>> Perhaps it should be 1.3A, as in amps, but that would drain an AA
>>>>> bloody fast.
>>>>
>>>> Beats me, even after googling.
>>>
>>> I decided to ask the seller. I sent:
>>>
>>> "What does "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt" mean?
>>> I am wondering about the word 'bis'."
>>>
>>> The response was less than helpful.
>>>
>>> I received:
>>>
>>> "1,3-Bisphosphoglyceric acid (1,3-Bisphosphoglycerate or 1,3BPG) is a
>>> 3-carbon organic molecule present in most, if not all, living organisms.
>>> It primarily exists as a metabolic intermediate in both glycolysis
>>> during respiration and the Calvin cycle during photosynthesis. 1,3BPG is
>>> a transitional stage between glycerate 3-phosphate and glyceraldehyde
>>> 3-phosphate during the fixation/reduction of CO2. 1,3BPG is also a
>>> precursor to 2,3-bisphosphoglycerate which in turn is a reaction
>>> intermediate in the glycolytic pathway."
>>
>> That doesn't sound like something you'd put in a battery.
>>
>> I tried to check the original ad, but the link led only to a clock.
>
> Yes, that was the ad. It was for an "MCM Atomic DAUM France KIENZLE
> Clock in Ornate Crystal Rock Art Glass".
>
> Search that page for 'bis', and you'll see it.
>
> I don't think the answer I got had anything to do with the product.

Then the seller is an idiot. I wouldn't trust him to sell you a clock anything like as described.

Still, you can get free stuff from China if you buy something you can see is misadvertised. When you complain, they don't want to pay the return postage and you get to keep it for free. Even something as simple as a photo showing a pair of something, but the description (usually buried right at the bottom after billions of photos showing how "brilliant" it is) says you only get one.

On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 06:47:07 +0000, Hibou <h.i@b.ou> wrote:
>Le 22/12/2022 à 15:02, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>> On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:42:58 -0000, Hibou wrote:
>>> Le 22/12/2022 à 10:57, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> "Ligne 3 bis du métro de Paris"
>>>> "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"
>>>>
>>>> Google translate will not translate the bis.
>>>
>>> 'Bis' designates a second, alternative, or repeated instance. For
>>> example, an itinéraire bis is an alternative route. Ligne 3 bis is a
>>> branch off Ligne 3. It's also used for house numbering, where new
>>> addresses have been created [...]
>>
>> Ah thanks, that makes sense for the first one.  Strange Google couldn't
>> translate it.
>>
>> But "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"?
>
>It does seem odd, that one. Can you supply any context?
Maybe that's German bis - specifying a range.
--
Jack

On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 06:55:41 -0000, Jack <quiasmox@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 06:47:07 +0000, Hibou <h.i@b.ou> wrote:
>
>> Le 22/12/2022 à 15:02, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>> On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:42:58 -0000, Hibou wrote:
>>>> Le 22/12/2022 à 10:57, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> "Ligne 3 bis du métro de Paris"
>>>>> "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"
>>>>>
>>>>> Google translate will not translate the bis.
>>>>
>>>> 'Bis' designates a second, alternative, or repeated instance. For
>>>> example, an itinéraire bis is an alternative route. Ligne 3 bis is a
>>>> branch off Ligne 3. It's also used for house numbering, where new
>>>> addresses have been created [...]
>>>
>>> Ah thanks, that makes sense for the first one. Strange Google couldn't
>>> translate it.
>>>
>>> But "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"?
>>
>> It does seem odd, that one. Can you supply any context?
>
> Maybe that's German bis - specifying a range.

That would make sense, it's implying it will take a NiMH or an alkaline. Although they should have specified the nominal voltage of 1.2.

On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 2:00:17 AM UTC-5, Jack wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 06:47:07 +0000, Hibou <h...@b.ou> wrote:
>
> >Le 22/12/2022 à 15:02, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
> >> On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:42:58 -0000, Hibou wrote:
> >>> Le 22/12/2022 à 10:57, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
> >>>>
> >>>> "Ligne 3 bis du métro de Paris"
> >>>> "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"
> >>>>
> >>>> Google translate will not translate the bis.
> >>>
> >>> 'Bis' designates a second, alternative, or repeated instance. For
> >>> example, an itinéraire bis is an alternative route. Ligne 3 bis is a
> >>> branch off Ligne 3. It's also used for house numbering, where new
> >>> addresses have been created [...]
> >>
> >> Ah thanks, that makes sense for the first one. Strange Google couldn't
> >> translate it.
> >>
> >> But "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"?
> >
> >It does seem odd, that one. Can you supply any context?
>
> Maybe that's German bis - specifying a range.

ALMOST specifying a range. On many Central European crime dramas, they say: ,,bis dann'' [until then].

On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 08:53:25 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
<bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 2:00:17 AM UTC-5, Jack wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 06:47:07 +0000, Hibou <h...@b.ou> wrote:
>>
>> >Le 22/12/2022 à 15:02, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>> >> On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:42:58 -0000, Hibou wrote:
>> >>> Le 22/12/2022 à 10:57, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Ligne 3 bis du métro de Paris"
>> >>>> "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Google translate will not translate the bis.
>> >>>
>> >>> 'Bis' designates a second, alternative, or repeated instance. For
>> >>> example, an itinéraire bis is an alternative route. Ligne 3 bis is a
>> >>> branch off Ligne 3. It's also used for house numbering, where new
>> >>> addresses have been created [...]
>> >>
>> >> Ah thanks, that makes sense for the first one. Strange Google couldn't
>> >> translate it.
>> >>
>> >> But "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"?
>> >
>> >It does seem odd, that one. Can you supply any context?
>>
>> Maybe that's German bis - specifying a range.
>
>ALMOST specifying a range. On many Central European crime dramas, they say: ,,bis dann'' [until then].
I tried Google translate to German on "from 1.3 to 1.5 Volts", and got
von 1,3 bis 1,5 Volt, so it seems to be missing the starting word. I
don't know if it can be omitter or not.
--
Jack

On 2022-12-31 15:15, Jack wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 08:53:25 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser
> <bruce2bowser@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, December 31, 2022 at 2:00:17 AM UTC-5, Jack wrote:
>>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 06:47:07 +0000, Hibou <h...@b.ou> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Le 22/12/2022 à 15:02, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>>>> On Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:42:58 -0000, Hibou wrote:
>>>>>> Le 22/12/2022 à 10:57, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Ligne 3 bis du métro de Paris"
>>>>>>> "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Google translate will not translate the bis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Bis' designates a second, alternative, or repeated instance. For
>>>>>> example, an itinéraire bis is an alternative route. Ligne 3 bis is a
>>>>>> branch off Ligne 3. It's also used for house numbering, where new
>>>>>> addresses have been created [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah thanks, that makes sense for the first one. Strange Google couldn't
>>>>> translate it.
>>>>>
>>>>> But "Battery operated 1.3 bis, 1.5 Volt"?
>>>>
>>>> It does seem odd, that one. Can you supply any context?
>>>
>>> Maybe that's German bis - specifying a range.
>>
>> ALMOST specifying a range. On many Central European crime dramas, they say: ,,bis dann'' [until then].
>
> I tried Google translate to German on "from 1.3 to 1.5 Volts", and got
> von 1,3 bis 1,5 Volt, so it seems to be missing the starting word. I
> don't know if it can be omitter or not.

I think you've hit the nail on the head.
Since Kienzle is a German watch, the specs for it probably said the
voltage range required for operation is 1.3 to 1.5 volts, but written in
German, of course.

Good catch. I should have figured it out, as I bought a Kienzle watch
when stationed in Germany.

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