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* Re: OT: stubbing toesCDB
+* Re: OT: stubbing toesKerr-Mudd, John
|`- Re: OT: stubbing toesCDB
+* Re: OT: stubbing toescharles
|`* Re: OT: stubbing toesSam Plusnet
| `- Re: OT: stubbing toesKerr-Mudd, John
+- Re: OT: stubbing toeslar3ryca
`- Re: OT: stubbing toesBebercito

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 by: CDB - Sat, 17 Dec 2022 20:10 UTC

On 12/16/2022 10:42 PM, rbowman wrote:
> Commander Kinsey wrote:

["When he reached Barry John went to a pub."]

>> I understood it clearly, although I assumed Barry was another
>> person he was catching up on. It's obvious there have to be two
>> objects between reached and went, so it's clear what the meaning
>> was.

> I too assumed he called Barry who told him to come to the Drunken
> Vulture for a pint.

I assumed "Barry" was a place; I think that that would fit the context
better (see above).

WP says there is a Barry in Wales.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry,_Vale_of_Glamorgan

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 by: Kerr-Mudd, John - Sat, 17 Dec 2022 20:43 UTC

On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 15:10:08 -0500
CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/16/2022 10:42 PM, rbowman wrote:
> > Commander Kinsey wrote:
>
> ["When he reached Barry John went to a pub."]
>
> >> I understood it clearly, although I assumed Barry was another
> >> person he was catching up on. It's obvious there have to be two
> >> objects between reached and went, so it's clear what the meaning
> >> was.
>
> > I too assumed he called Barry who told him to come to the Drunken
> > Vulture for a pint.
>
> I assumed "Barry" was a place; I think that that would fit the context
> better (see above).
>
> WP says there is a Barry in Wales.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry,_Vale_of_Glamorgan
>
Famous South Walian Painter:

Barry Van Hire

well, his vehicle is seen around a lot.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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 by: charles - Sat, 17 Dec 2022 20:40 UTC

In article <tnl7n2$417$3@gioia.aioe.org>,
CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/16/2022 10:42 PM, rbowman wrote:
> > Commander Kinsey wrote:

> ["When he reached Barry John went to a pub."]

> >> I understood it clearly, although I assumed Barry was another
> >> person he was catching up on. It's obvious there have to be two
> >> objects between reached and went, so it's clear what the meaning
> >> was.

> > I too assumed he called Barry who told him to come to the Drunken
> > Vulture for a pint.

> I assumed "Barry" was a place; I think that that would fit the context
> better (see above).

> WP says there is a Barry in Wales.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry,_Vale_of_Glamorgan

There is = and I've been there.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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 by: lar3ryca - Sat, 17 Dec 2022 21:55 UTC

On 2022-12-17 14:10, CDB wrote:
> On 12/16/2022 10:42 PM, rbowman wrote:
>> Commander Kinsey wrote:
>
> ["When he reached Barry John went to a pub."]
>
>>> I understood it clearly, although I assumed Barry was another
>>> person he was catching up on.  It's obvious there have to be two
>>> objects between reached and went, so it's clear what the meaning
>>> was.
>
>> I too assumed he called Barry who told him to come to the Drunken
>> Vulture for a pint.
>
> I assumed "Barry" was a place; I think that that would fit the context
> better (see above).
>
> WP says there is a Barry in Wales.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry,_Vale_of_Glamorgan

I took my Radar (Air) training in the RCAF base in Barry, Ontario.

--
Verb is a noun.
Unless you verb it, of course.

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Sun, 18 Dec 2022 02:47 UTC

On 17-Dec-22 20:40, charles wrote:
> In article <tnl7n2$417$3@gioia.aioe.org>,
> CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12/16/2022 10:42 PM, rbowman wrote:
>>> Commander Kinsey wrote:
>
>> ["When he reached Barry John went to a pub."]
>
>>>> I understood it clearly, although I assumed Barry was another
>>>> person he was catching up on. It's obvious there have to be two
>>>> objects between reached and went, so it's clear what the meaning
>>>> was.
>
>>> I too assumed he called Barry who told him to come to the Drunken
>>> Vulture for a pint.
>
>> I assumed "Barry" was a place; I think that that would fit the context
>> better (see above).
>
>> WP says there is a Barry in Wales.
>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry,_Vale_of_Glamorgan
>
> There is = and I've been there.
>
And... people are only discussing this because the question was asked
out of context. Within the context, it would have been obvious if the
reference was to a place or a person.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: Bebercito - Sun, 18 Dec 2022 06:32 UTC

Le dimanche 18 décembre 2022 à 01:48:40 UTC+1, Commander Kinsey a écrit :
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 23:16:48 -0000, NY <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > On 17/12/2022 21:51, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >> On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 20:10:08 -0000, CDB <belle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 12/16/2022 10:42 PM, rbowman wrote:
> >>>> Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ["When he reached Barry John went to a pub."]
> >>>
> >>>>> I understood it clearly, although I assumed Barry was another
> >>>>> person he was catching up on. It's obvious there have to be two
> >>>>> objects between reached and went, so it's clear what the meaning
> >>>>> was.
> >>>
> >>>> I too assumed he called Barry who told him to come to the Drunken
> >>>> Vulture for a pint.
> >>>
> >>> I assumed "Barry" was a place; I think that that would fit the context
> >>> better (see above).
> >>
> >> Bollocks. Why assume a proper noun is a place name rather than a
> >> person? It's often a person will go meet another person then go on to a
> >> venue.
> >
> > I would usually separate the two clauses "When he reached Barry" and
> > "John went to the pub" with a comma, and I would definitely always use a
> > comma (and expect other writers to use one) if the last word of one
> > clause and the first word of the other were both proper nouns - to avoid
> > the "Barry John" confusion.
> >
> > I chose my example carefully: I intended Barry to be the town in South
> > Wales, with the possible "I'm sorry, I'll read that again"
> That doesn't need a comma either.
> > confusion with a person of that name who might thought to be called Barry
> > [forename] John [surname] because of the lack of the all-important comma.
> No confusion occurred because there can be only one meaning.

Indeed, but a possible garden path.

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 by: Kerr-Mudd, John - Sun, 18 Dec 2022 10:56 UTC

On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 02:47:36 +0000
Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

> On 17-Dec-22 20:40, charles wrote:
> > In article <tnl7n2$417$3@gioia.aioe.org>,
> > CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 12/16/2022 10:42 PM, rbowman wrote:
> >>> Commander Kinsey wrote:
> >
> >> ["When he reached Barry John went to a pub."]
> >
> >>>> I understood it clearly, although I assumed Barry was another
> >>>> person he was catching up on. It's obvious there have to be two
> >>>> objects between reached and went, so it's clear what the meaning
> >>>> was.
> >
> >>> I too assumed he called Barry who told him to come to the Drunken
> >>> Vulture for a pint.
> >
> >> I assumed "Barry" was a place; I think that that would fit the context
> >> better (see above).
> >
> >> WP says there is a Barry in Wales.
> >
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry,_Vale_of_Glamorgan
> >
> > There is = and I've been there.
> >
> And... people are only discussing this because the question was asked
> out of context. Within the context, it would have been obvious if the
> reference was to a place or a person.
>
Is there an Elephant in the room?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_John

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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 by: CDB - Sun, 18 Dec 2022 14:31 UTC

On 12/17/2022 3:43 PM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> CDB <bellemarecd@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12/16/2022 10:42 PM, rbowman wrote:
>>> Commander Kinsey wrote:

>> ["When he reached Barry John went to a pub."]

>>>> I understood it clearly, although I assumed Barry was another
>>>> person he was catching up on. It's obvious there have to be
>>>> two objects between reached and went, so it's clear what the
>>>> meaning was.

>>> I too assumed he called Barry who told him to come to the
>>> Drunken Vulture for a pint.

>> I assumed "Barry" was a place; I think that that would fit the
>> context better (see above).

>> WP says there is a Barry in Wales.

>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry,_Vale_of_Glamorgan

> Famous South Walian Painter:

> Barry Van Hire

> well, his vehicle is seen around a lot.

Minivan, is it? A low rider would be overlooked.


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