There's been a scandal here lately, where coal-mining companies have
been faking reports about the quality of their coal. Apparently the
testing laboratories had to keep two sets of books, one with the true
test results and the other with the results to be reported. Any
laboratory that refused to do this lost their contracts.

The story leaked because a whistle-blower told an independent
parliamentarian, but apparently it's been an open secret in the industry
for ages. One source said that it's been going on "since time in memoriam".

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

Le lundi 28 novembre 2022 à 01:04:54 UTC+1, Peter Moylan a écrit :
> There's been a scandal here lately, where coal-mining companies have
> been faking reports about the quality of their coal. Apparently the
> testing laboratories had to keep two sets of books, one with the true
> test results and the other with the results to be reported. Any
> laboratory that refused to do this lost their contracts.
>
> The story leaked because a whistle-blower told an independent
> parliamentarian, but apparently it's been an open secret in the industry
> for ages. One source said that it's been going on "since time in memoriam".

Interestingly, the above is not a mere malapropism but can be considered
an eggcorn, since, if the time referred to is "in memoriam", then it's dead (and
gone) and may therefore be impossible to remember, making the use of the
phrase somehow plausible in lieu of "immemorial".

>
> --
> Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

On 28/11/22 18:42, Bebercito wrote:
> Le lundi 28 novembre 2022 à 01:04:54 UTC+1, Peter Moylan a écrit :
>> There's been a scandal here lately, where coal-mining companies have
>> been faking reports about the quality of their coal. Apparently the
>> testing laboratories had to keep two sets of books, one with the true
>> test results and the other with the results to be reported. Any
>> laboratory that refused to do this lost their contracts.
>>
>> The story leaked because a whistle-blower told an independent
>> parliamentarian, but apparently it's been an open secret in the industry
>> for ages. One source said that it's been going on "since time in memoriam".
>
> Interestingly, the above is not a mere malapropism but can be considered
> an eggcorn, since, if the time referred to is "in memoriam", then it's dead (and
> gone) and may therefore be impossible to remember, making the use of the
> phrase somehow plausible in lieu of "immemorial".

I resolve that by referring to time immoral.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 7:04:54 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan wrote:

> There's been a scandal here lately, where coal-mining companies have
> been faking reports about the quality of their coal. Apparently the
> testing laboratories had to keep two sets of books, one with the true
> test results and the other with the results to be reported. Any
> laboratory that refused to do this lost their contracts.
>
> The story leaked because a whistle-blower told an independent
> parliamentarian, but apparently it's been an open secret in the industry
> for ages. One source said that it's been going on "since time in memoriam".

Speaking of Australian scandals, how did your last PM manage to
"secretly" make himself the ministers in charge of five departments?

On 29/11/22 00:50, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 7:04:54 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan
> wrote:
>
>> There's been a scandal here lately, where coal-mining companies
>> have been faking reports about the quality of their coal.
>> Apparently the testing laboratories had to keep two sets of books,
>> one with the true test results and the other with the results to
>> be reported. Any laboratory that refused to do this lost their
>> contracts.
>>
>> The story leaked because a whistle-blower told an independent
>> parliamentarian, but apparently it's been an open secret in the
>> industry for ages. One source said that it's been going on "since
>> time in memoriam".
>
> Speaking of Australian scandals, how did your last PM manage to
> "secretly" make himself the ministers in charge of five departments?

He could not have done it without the cooperation of the Governor
General. Both Morrison (the ex-PM) and the GG claim that they thought
the other would make the appointments public. The GG might possibly be
right, given that Morrison has a history of lying.

The secret was well kept. Four of the five "real" ministers were unaware
that they had been undermined.

Now that a judicial enquiry has produced a scathing report, the present
government plans to move a censure motion. The opposition is criticising
this on the grounds that censure motions are only moved against
ministers. They are implying that the censure motion should have been
moved back when the appointments were secret.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 5:22:24 AM UTC-8, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 28/11/22 18:42, Bebercito wrote:
> > Le lundi 28 novembre 2022 à 01:04:54 UTC+1, Peter Moylan a écrit :
> >> There's been a scandal here lately, where coal-mining companies have
> >> been faking reports about the quality of their coal. Apparently the
> >> testing laboratories had to keep two sets of books, one with the true
> >> test results and the other with the results to be reported. Any
> >> laboratory that refused to do this lost their contracts.
> >>
> >> The story leaked because a whistle-blower told an independent
> >> parliamentarian, but apparently it's been an open secret in the industry
> >> for ages. One source said that it's been going on "since time in memoriam".
> >
> > Interestingly, the above is not a mere malapropism but can be considered
> > an eggcorn, since, if the time referred to is "in memoriam", then it's dead (and
> > gone) and may therefore be impossible to remember, making the use of the
> > phrase somehow plausible in lieu of "immemorial".
> I resolve that by referring to time immoral.

By whose standards?

bill

On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 2:51:55 AM UTC-5, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 29/11/22 00:50, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 27, 2022 at 7:04:54 PM UTC-5, Peter Moylan
> > wrote:
> >
> >> There's been a scandal here lately, where coal-mining companies
> >> have been faking reports about the quality of their coal.
> >> Apparently the testing laboratories had to keep two sets of books,
> >> one with the true test results and the other with the results to
> >> be reported. Any laboratory that refused to do this lost their
> >> contracts.
> >>
> >> The story leaked because a whistle-blower told an independent
> >> parliamentarian, but apparently it's been an open secret in the
> >> industry for ages. One source said that it's been going on "since
> >> time in memoriam".
> >
> > Speaking of Australian scandals, how did your last PM manage to
> > "secretly" make himself the ministers in charge of five departments?
> He could not have done it without the cooperation of the Governor
> General. Both Morrison (the ex-PM) and the GG claim that they thought
> the other would make the appointments public. The GG might possibly be
> right, given that Morrison has a history of lying.
>
> The secret was well kept. Four of the five "real" ministers were unaware
> that they had been undermined.
>
> Now that a judicial enquiry has produced a scathing report, the present
> government plans to move a censure motion. The opposition is criticising
> this on the grounds that censure motions are only moved against
> ministers. They are implying that the censure motion should have been
> moved back when the appointments were secret.

Well, the second T**** impeachment came a few weeks too late.
Conviction would have prevented him from running a third time.
Or holding any office in the Federal government. (Like someone
would ever appoint him.) (Though if the House gets deadlocked
over Kevin McCarthy -- a few extreme rightwingers don't want him
-- they might go back to the idea of making T**** Speaker (doesn't
have to be a member of the House.)