On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
(abortion up to the time of delivery).

While I can't argue with the use of the word to mean "the furthest
point", I would have used "extremists" to describe those people.

Am I alone in this?

In a sentence starting out "The (word) advocate that..." would you use
"extremities" or "extremists" to fill in (word)?
--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 4:41:21 PM UTC+1, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
> used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
> people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
> right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
> (abortion up to the time of delivery).
>
> While I can't argue with the use of the word to mean "the furthest
> point", I would have used "extremists" to describe those people.
>
> Am I alone in this?
>
> In a sentence starting out "The (word) advocate that..." would you use
> "extremities" or "extremists" to fill in (word)?

You would have to include peaceful religious sects as "extremists",
so I don't think that works; but "nutters" covers them all?

On Sun, 07 Aug 2022 11:41:14 -0400, Tony Cooper
<tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

>On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
>used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
>people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
>right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
>(abortion up to the time of delivery).
>
>While I can't argue with the use of the word to mean "the furthest
>point", I would have used "extremists" to describe those people.
>
>Am I alone in this?

No, I agree with you.

>In a sentence starting out "The (word) advocate that..." would you use
>"extremities" or "extremists" to fill in (word)?

On Sun, 07 Aug 2022 11:41:14 -0400, Tony Cooper
<tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

>On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
>used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
>people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
>right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
>(abortion up to the time of delivery).
>
>While I can't argue with the use of the word to mean "the furthest
>point", I would have used "extremists" to describe those people.
>
>Am I alone in this?
>
>In a sentence starting out "The (word) advocate that..." would you use
>"extremities" or "extremists" to fill in (word)?

I haven't heard that.

Saying "extremists" seems to suggest a single position at one
extreme. Or I started with that assumption.

I interpret "extremities" as impllying that there are multliple
positions among the extremists at each end. If that is what
she meant -- which I deem would likely be a valid assessment,
now that I've thought about it for a second -- I guess I don't
mind hearing it.

I don't know if it is an improvement over saying "extremists"
or if I might become annoyed.

--
Rich Ulrich

On 2022-08-07 15:41:14 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

> On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
> used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
> people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
> right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
> (abortion up to the time of delivery).
>
> While I can't argue with the use of the word to mean "the furthest
> point", I would have used "extremists" to describe those people.
>
> Am I alone in this?

No. I agree completely with you.
>
> In a sentence starting out "The (word) advocate that..." would you use
> "extremities" or "extremists" to fill in (word)?

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 9:41:21 AM UTC-6, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
> used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
> people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
> right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
> (abortion up to the time of delivery).
>
> While I can't argue with the use of the word to mean "the furthest
> point", I would have used "extremists" to describe those people.
>
> Am I alone in this?
....

Everybody's with you except Dogberry, Mrs. Malaprop, Archie Bunker,
Norm Crosby, etc.

--
Jerry Friedman

On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 7:41:49 PM UTC+1, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 9:41:21 AM UTC-6, Tony Cooper wrote:
> > On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
> > used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
> > people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
> > right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
> > (abortion up to the time of delivery).
> >
> > While I can't argue with the use of the word to mean "the furthest
> > point", I would have used "extremists" to describe those people.
> >
> > Am I alone in this?
> ...
>
> Everybody's with you except Dogberry, Mrs. Malaprop, Archie Bunker,
> Norm Crosby, etc.

Dogberry isn't often cited as a wise reference.

<https://www.opensourceshakespeare.org/views/plays/characters/charlines.php?CharID=dogberry&WorkID=muchado&cues=1>

On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 12:56:19 PM UTC-6, lionele...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 7:41:49 PM UTC+1, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 9:41:21 AM UTC-6, Tony Cooper wrote:
> > > On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
> > > used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
> > > people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
> > > right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
> > > (abortion up to the time of delivery).
> > >
> > > While I can't argue with the use of the word to mean "the furthest
> > > point", I would have used "extremists" to describe those people.
> > >
> > > Am I alone in this?
> > ...
> >
> > Everybody's with you except Dogberry, Mrs. Malaprop, Archie Bunker,
> > Norm Crosby, etc.

> Dogberry isn't often cited as a wise reference.
>
> <https://www.opensourceshakespeare.org/views/plays/characters/charlines.php?CharID=dogberry&WorkID=muchado&cues=1>

Neither are the other three I mentioned.

--
Jerry Friedman

On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 7:56:19 PM UTC+1, Lionel Edwards wrote:
> On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 7:41:49 PM UTC+1, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 9:41:21 AM UTC-6, Tony Cooper wrote:
> > > On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
> > > used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
> > > people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
> > > right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
> > > (abortion up to the time of delivery).
> > >
> > > While I can't argue with the use of the word to mean "the furthest
> > > point", I would have used "extremists" to describe those people.
> > >
> > > Am I alone in this?
> > ...
> >
> > Everybody's with you except Dogberry, Mrs. Malaprop, Archie Bunker,
> > Norm Crosby, etc.
> Dogberry isn't often cited as a wise reference.
>
> <https://www.opensourceshakespeare.org/views/plays/characters/charlines.php?CharID=dogberry&WorkID=muchado&cues=1>

Leonato. What is it, my good friends?

Dogberry. Goodman Verges, sir, speaks a little off the
matter: an old man, sir, and his wits are not so
blunt as, God help, I would desire they were; but,
in faith, honest as the skin between his brows.

Verges. Yes, I thank God I am as honest as any man living
that is an old man and no honester than I.

Dogberry. Comparisons are odorous: palabras, neighbour Verges.

Leonato. Neighbours, you are tedious.

Dogberry. It pleases your worship to say so, but we are the
poor duke's officers; but truly, for mine own part,
if I were as tedious as a king, I could find it in
my heart to bestow it all of your worship.

Leonato. All thy tediousness on me, ah?

On Sun, 07 Aug 2022 13:20:38 -0400, Rich Ulrich
<rich.ulrich@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 07 Aug 2022 11:41:14 -0400, Tony Cooper
><tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
>>used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
>>people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
>>right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
>>(abortion up to the time of delivery).
>>
>>While I can't argue with the use of the word to mean "the furthest
>>point", I would have used "extremists" to describe those people.
>>
>>Am I alone in this?
>>
>>In a sentence starting out "The (word) advocate that..." would you use
>>"extremities" or "extremists" to fill in (word)?
>
>I haven't heard that.
>
>Saying "extremists" seems to suggest a single position at one
>extreme. Or I started with that assumption.
>
>I interpret "extremities" as impllying that there are multliple
>positions among the extremists at each end. If that is what
>she meant -- which I deem would likely be a valid assessment,
>now that I've thought about it for a second -- I guess I don't
>mind hearing it.
>
>I don't know if it is an improvement over saying "extremists"
>or if I might become annoyed.

She *was* discusssing those on the extreme end of the scale. The
plural use of "extremities" seemed to be used to describe those with
the most extreme views regardless of which end of the scale.

There wasn't a hint of multiple positions in her description. She was
comparing them to those who temper their opinions by allowing for
multiple points along the line.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 8:18:48 PM UTC+1, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 12:56:19 PM UTC-6, lionele...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 7:41:49 PM UTC+1, Jerry Friedman wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 9:41:21 AM UTC-6, Tony Cooper wrote:
> > > > On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
> > > > used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
> > > > people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
> > > > right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
> > > > (abortion up to the time of delivery).
> > > >
> > > > While I can't argue with the use of the word to mean "the furthest
> > > > point", I would have used "extremists" to describe those people.
> > > >
> > > > Am I alone in this?
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Everybody's with you except Dogberry, Mrs. Malaprop, Archie Bunker,
> > > Norm Crosby, etc.
>
> > Dogberry isn't often cited as a wise reference.
> >
> > <https://www.opensourceshakespeare.org/views/plays/characters/charlines.php?CharID=dogberry&WorkID=muchado&cues=1>
> Neither are the other three I mentioned.

While you are delving into Dickens you have two Sam Wellers
to deliver proper wisdom.

On 08/08/22 02:53, Lionel Edwards wrote:
> On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 4:41:21 PM UTC+1, Tony Cooper wrote:

>> On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
>> used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
>> people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the
>> extreme right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on
>> the far left (abortion up to the time of delivery).
>>
>> While I can't argue with the use of the word to mean "the furthest
>> point", I would have used "extremists" to describe those people.
>>
>> Am I alone in this?
>>
>> In a sentence starting out "The (word) advocate that..." would you
>> use "extremities" or "extremists" to fill in (word)?
>
> You would have to include peaceful religious sects as "extremists",
> so I don't think that works; but "nutters" covers them all?

You seem to be suggesting that extremists can't be peaceful. In my view
that's confounding two qualities that should be measured on different axes.

Nutters probably qualify as a subset of extremists.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:41:21 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:

> On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
> used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
> people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
> right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
> (abortion up to the time of delivery).

I watched, as I usually do, the 5 pm repeat of NBC's *Meet the
Press* and saw the interview with a Republican Member of
Congress from South Carolina, Nancy Mace.

I wonder whom he thinks he was protecting by failing to name
the program or the interviewee.

She did NOT in fact use the word "extremities" to refer to people
holding (what she considered) extreme positions, but to those
positions that represent the most extreme views of either side.

More interesting, as was pointed out in the panel discussion
afterward, she described her position as "staunchly pro-life,"
but with the widely accepted exceptions for "rape, incest, and
life or health of the mother." "Pro-life extremists" would not
consider that a "staunchly pro-life position" at all.

> While I can't argue with the use of the word to mean "the furthest
> point", I would have used "extremists" to describe those people.
>
> Am I alone in this?
>
> In a sentence starting out "The (word) advocate that..." would you use
> "extremities" or "extremists" to fill in (word)?

Irrelevant, since she never used such a sentence.
> --
> Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida
> I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

And misinformation.

On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 05:48:46 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
<grammatim@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:41:21 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
>
>> On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
>> used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
>> people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
>> right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
>> (abortion up to the time of delivery).
>
>I watched, as I usually do, the 5 pm repeat of NBC's *Meet the
>Press* and saw the interview with a Republican Member of
>Congress from South Carolina, Nancy Mace.
>
>I wonder whom he thinks he was protecting by failing to name
>the program or the interviewee.

Protecting? My question was about the usage of "extremities".
Identifying the speaker as both a Southerner and Republican could
introduce bias into the question. Naming her, and the specific
program, would have added no useful context and would have been
meaningless to many readers of a.u.e.
>

>She did NOT in fact use the word "extremities" to refer to people
>holding (what she considered) extreme positions, but to those
>positions that represent the most extreme views of either side.

I think that my parenthetical comments firmly establish that the word
was applied to the "most extreme".

>More interesting, as was pointed out in the panel discussion
>afterward, she described her position as "staunchly pro-life,"
>but with the widely accepted exceptions for "rape, incest, and
>life or health of the mother." "Pro-life extremists" would not
>consider that a "staunchly pro-life position" at all.
>
>> While I can't argue with the use of the word to mean "the furthest
>> point", I would have used "extremists" to describe those people.
>>
>> Am I alone in this?
>>
>> In a sentence starting out "The (word) advocate that..." would you use
>> "extremities" or "extremists" to fill in (word)?
>
>Irrelevant, since she never used such a sentence.

Yes, it would *if* I attributed the usage to Nancy Mace being
interviewed on "Meet The Press". By omitting that, the question was
simply about the usage.

Your post here is yet another indication of your reputation as a "Well
Frog". You don't understand that the name of an American television
network, an American television show, and the name of an American
congressional Representitive from an American state does not
contribute to a discussion of a usage question for the multi-national
readership of this group.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 9:38:50 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 05:48:46 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:41:21 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
> >
> >> On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
> >> used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
> >> people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
> >> right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
> >> (abortion up to the time of delivery).
> >
> >I watched, as I usually do, the 5 pm repeat of NBC's *Meet the
> >Press* and saw the interview with a Republican Member of
> >Congress from South Carolina, Nancy Mace.
> >
> >I wonder whom he thinks he was protecting by failing to name
> >the program or the interviewee.
>
> Protecting? My question was about the usage of "extremities".
> Identifying the speaker as both a Southerner and Republican could
> introduce bias into the question. Naming her, and the specific
> program, would have added no useful context and would have been
> meaningless to many readers of a.u.e.

And it would have made available the exposure of your lie about the
locution that much sooner.

> >She did NOT in fact use the word "extremities" to refer to people
> >holding (what she considered) extreme positions, but to those
> >positions that represent the most extreme views of either side.
>
> I think that my parenthetical comments firmly establish that the word
> was applied to the "most extreme".

You don't see that you wrote "referring to those on the extreme
right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the
far left"? "People on the far left" are people, and she did not use
the word of people.

> >More interesting, as was pointed out in the panel discussion
> >afterward, she described her position as "staunchly pro-life,"
> >but with the widely accepted exceptions for "rape, incest, and
> >life or health of the mother." "Pro-life extremists" would not
> >consider that a "staunchly pro-life position" at all.
> >> While I can't argue with the use of the word to mean "the furthest
> >> point", I would have used "extremists" to describe those people.
> >> Am I alone in this?
> >> In a sentence starting out "The (word) advocate that..." would you use
> >> "extremities" or "extremists" to fill in (word)?
> >Irrelevant, since she never used such a sentence.
>
> Yes, it would *if* I attributed the usage to Nancy Mace being
> interviewed on "Meet The Press". By omitting that, the question was
> simply about the usage.

Once again, a stupid question, since it was prompted by no
usage at all.

> Your post here is yet another indication of your reputation as a "Well
> Frog". You don't understand that the name of an American television
> network, an American television show, and the name of an American
> congressional Representitive from an American state does not
> contribute to a discussion of a usage question for the multi-national
> readership of this group.

And you (somehow) don't understand that identification of the
speaker of something considered comment-worthy is a vital
part of interpreting what was said.

At the top of the show, another announced interviewee was Stacy
Abrams, and if she had used what you claimed was used, it might
have been interesting. (Yes, I was expecting to hear the usage on
MTP because I am familiar with your Sunday-show viewing habits.)
> --
> Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida
> I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

And desperate attempts to justify errors, no matter how egregious

On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 06:51:59 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
<grammatim@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 9:38:50 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 05:48:46 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
>> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:41:21 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
>> >
>> >> On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
>> >> used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
>> >> people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
>> >> right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
>> >> (abortion up to the time of delivery).
>> >
>> >I watched, as I usually do, the 5 pm repeat of NBC's *Meet the
>> >Press* and saw the interview with a Republican Member of
>> >Congress from South Carolina, Nancy Mace.
>> >
>> >I wonder whom he thinks he was protecting by failing to name
>> >the program or the interviewee.
>>
>> Protecting? My question was about the usage of "extremities".
>> Identifying the speaker as both a Southerner and Republican could
>> introduce bias into the question. Naming her, and the specific
>> program, would have added no useful context and would have been
>> meaningless to many readers of a.u.e.
>
>And it would have made available the exposure of your lie about the
>locution that much sooner.
>
Lie? Are you now claiming the word used was not "extremities"?

>> >She did NOT in fact use the word "extremities" to refer to people
>> >holding (what she considered) extreme positions, but to those
>> >positions that represent the most extreme views of either side.
>>
>> I think that my parenthetical comments firmly establish that the word
>> was applied to the "most extreme".
>
>You don't see that you wrote "referring to those on the extreme
>right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the
>far left"? "People on the far left" are people, and she did not use
>the word of people.

What kind of silly buggers game are you playing?

I did not quote (she) Nancy Mace.

You think there's some sort of changed meaning by using "people's
attitudes" and then "those on.."? Are "those" not the people"
>
>> >More interesting, as was pointed out in the panel discussion
>> >afterward, she described her position as "staunchly pro-life,"
>> >but with the widely accepted exceptions for "rape, incest, and
>> >life or health of the mother." "Pro-life extremists" would not
>> >consider that a "staunchly pro-life position" at all.
>> >> While I can't argue with the use of the word to mean "the furthest
>> >> point", I would have used "extremists" to describe those people.
>> >> Am I alone in this?
>> >> In a sentence starting out "The (word) advocate that..." would you use
>> >> "extremities" or "extremists" to fill in (word)?
>> >Irrelevant, since she never used such a sentence.
>>
>> Yes, it would *if* I attributed the usage to Nancy Mace being
>> interviewed on "Meet The Press". By omitting that, the question was
>> simply about the usage.
>
>Once again, a stupid question, since it was prompted by no
>usage at all.
>
>> Your post here is yet another indication of your reputation as a "Well
>> Frog". You don't understand that the name of an American television
>> network, an American television show, and the name of an American
>> congressional Representitive from an American state does not
>> contribute to a discussion of a usage question for the multi-national
>> readership of this group.
>
>And you (somehow) don't understand that identification of the
>speaker of something considered comment-worthy is a vital
>part of interpreting what was said.

You are exceeding your own capacity for foolishness. When the
discussion is about the choice of "extremities" or "extremists", the
name of speaker is irrelevant.

>
>At the top of the show, another announced interviewee was Stacy
>Abrams, and if she had used what you claimed was used, it might
>have been interesting.

That makes absolutely no sense at all.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:17:21 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 06:51:59 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 9:38:50 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
> >> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 05:48:46 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> >> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> >On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:41:21 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:

> >> >> On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
> >> >> used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
> >> >> people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
> >> >> right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
> >> >> (abortion up to the time of delivery).
> >> >I watched, as I usually do, the 5 pm repeat of NBC's *Meet the
> >> >Press* and saw the interview with a Republican Member of
> >> >Congress from South Carolina, Nancy Mace.
> >> >I wonder whom he thinks he was protecting by failing to name
> >> >the program or the interviewee.
> >> Protecting? My question was about the usage of "extremities".
> >> Identifying the speaker as both a Southerner and Republican could
> >> introduce bias into the question. Naming her, and the specific
> >> program, would have added no useful context and would have been
> >> meaningless to many readers of a.u.e.
> >And it would have made available the exposure of your lie about the
> >locution that much sooner.
>
> Lie? Are you now claiming the word used was not "extremities"?

I realize you have a desperate need for the last word, but you
claimed she used it of extremISTS. She did not.

> You are exceeding your own capacity for foolishness. When the
> discussion is about the choice of "extremities" or "extremists", the
> name of speaker is irrelevant.

There was no such choice.
> --
> Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida
> I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

And desperation.

On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 07:27:45 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
<grammatim@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:17:21 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 06:51:59 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
>> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 9:38:50 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 05:48:46 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
>> >> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> >> >On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:41:21 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
>
>> >> >> On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
>> >> >> used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
>> >> >> people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
>> >> >> right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
>> >> >> (abortion up to the time of delivery).
>> >> >I watched, as I usually do, the 5 pm repeat of NBC's *Meet the
>> >> >Press* and saw the interview with a Republican Member of
>> >> >Congress from South Carolina, Nancy Mace.
>> >> >I wonder whom he thinks he was protecting by failing to name
>> >> >the program or the interviewee.
>> >> Protecting? My question was about the usage of "extremities".
>> >> Identifying the speaker as both a Southerner and Republican could
>> >> introduce bias into the question. Naming her, and the specific
>> >> program, would have added no useful context and would have been
>> >> meaningless to many readers of a.u.e.
>> >And it would have made available the exposure of your lie about the
>> >locution that much sooner.
>>
>> Lie? Are you now claiming the word used was not "extremities"?
>
>I realize you have a desperate need for the last word, but you
>claimed she used it of extremISTS. She did not.

No, I did not make that claim. My "claim" was that "extremists" would
have been the better word choice in that context.

>> You are exceeding your own capacity for foolishness. When the
>> discussion is about the choice of "extremities" or "extremists", the
>> name of speaker is irrelevant.
--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

On 2022-08-08 14:17:14 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 06:51:59 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> <grammatim@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 9:38:50 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 05:48:46 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
>>> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:41:21 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
>>>>> used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
>>>>> people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
>>>>> right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
>>>>> (abortion up to the time of delivery).
>>>>
>>>> I watched, as I usually do, the 5 pm repeat of NBC's *Meet the
>>>> Press* and saw the interview with a Republican Member of
>>>> Congress from South Carolina, Nancy Mace.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder whom he thinks he was protecting by failing to name
>>>> the program or the interviewee.
>>>
>>> Protecting? My question was about the usage of "extremities".
>>> Identifying the speaker as both a Southerner and Republican could
>>> introduce bias into the question. Naming her, and the specific
>>> program, would have added no useful context and would have been
>>> meaningless to many readers of a.u.e.
>>
>> And it would have made available the exposure of your lie about the
>> locution that much sooner.
>>
> Lie? Are you now claiming the word used was not "extremities"?
>
>>>> She did NOT in fact use the word "extremities" to refer to people
>>>> holding (what she considered) extreme positions, but to those
>>>> positions that represent the most extreme views of either side.
>>>
>>> I think that my parenthetical comments firmly establish that the word
>>> was applied to the "most extreme".
>>
>> You don't see that you wrote "referring to those on the extreme
>> right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the
>> far left"? "People on the far left" are people, and she did not use
>> the word of people.
>
> What kind of silly buggers game are you playing?
>
> I did not quote (she) Nancy Mace.
>
> You think there's some sort of changed meaning by using "people's
> attitudes" and then "those on.."? Are "those" not the people"
>>
>>>> More interesting, as was pointed out in the panel discussion
>>>> afterward, she described her position as "staunchly pro-life,"
>>>> but with the widely accepted exceptions for "rape, incest, and
>>>> life or health of the mother." "Pro-life extremists" would not
>>>> consider that a "staunchly pro-life position" at all.
>>>>> While I can't argue with the use of the word to mean "the furthest
>>>>> point", I would have used "extremists" to describe those people.
>>>>> Am I alone in this?
>>>>> In a sentence starting out "The (word) advocate that..." would you use
>>>>> "extremities" or "extremists" to fill in (word)?
>>>> Irrelevant, since she never used such a sentence.
>>>
>>> Yes, it would *if* I attributed the usage to Nancy Mace being
>>> interviewed on "Meet The Press". By omitting that, the question was
>>> simply about the usage.
>>
>> Once again, a stupid question, since it was prompted by no
>> usage at all.
>>
>>> Your post here is yet another indication of your reputation as a "Well
>>> Frog". You don't understand that the name of an American television
>>> network, an American television show, and the name of an American
>>> congressional Representitive from an American state does not
>>> contribute to a discussion of a usage question for the multi-national
>>> readership of this group.
>>
>> And you (somehow) don't understand that identification of the
>> speaker of something considered comment-worthy is a vital
>> part of interpreting what was said.
>
> You are exceeding your own capacity for foolishness. When the
> discussion is about the choice of "extremities" or "extremists", the
> name of speaker is irrelevant.
>
>>
>> At the top of the show, another announced interviewee was Stacy
>> Abrams, and if she had used what you claimed was used, it might
>> have been interesting.
>
> That makes absolutely no sense at all.

Did you imagine that your post would generate such a storm?

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 17:34:26 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
<acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:

>On 2022-08-08 14:17:14 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
>
>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 06:51:59 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
>> <grammatim@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 9:38:50 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 05:48:46 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
>>>> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:41:21 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
>>>>>> used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
>>>>>> people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
>>>>>> right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
>>>>>> (abortion up to the time of delivery).
>>>>>
>>>>> I watched, as I usually do, the 5 pm repeat of NBC's *Meet the
>>>>> Press* and saw the interview with a Republican Member of
>>>>> Congress from South Carolina, Nancy Mace.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder whom he thinks he was protecting by failing to name
>>>>> the program or the interviewee.
>>>>
>>>> Protecting? My question was about the usage of "extremities".
>>>> Identifying the speaker as both a Southerner and Republican could
>>>> introduce bias into the question. Naming her, and the specific
>>>> program, would have added no useful context and would have been
>>>> meaningless to many readers of a.u.e.
>>>
>>> And it would have made available the exposure of your lie about the
>>> locution that much sooner.
>>>
>> Lie? Are you now claiming the word used was not "extremities"?
>>
>>>>> She did NOT in fact use the word "extremities" to refer to people
>>>>> holding (what she considered) extreme positions, but to those
>>>>> positions that represent the most extreme views of either side.
>>>>
>>>> I think that my parenthetical comments firmly establish that the word
>>>> was applied to the "most extreme".
>>>
>>> You don't see that you wrote "referring to those on the extreme
>>> right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the
>>> far left"? "People on the far left" are people, and she did not use
>>> the word of people.
>>
>> What kind of silly buggers game are you playing?
>>
>> I did not quote (she) Nancy Mace.
>>
>> You think there's some sort of changed meaning by using "people's
>> attitudes" and then "those on.."? Are "those" not the people"
>>>
>>>>> More interesting, as was pointed out in the panel discussion
>>>>> afterward, she described her position as "staunchly pro-life,"
>>>>> but with the widely accepted exceptions for "rape, incest, and
>>>>> life or health of the mother." "Pro-life extremists" would not
>>>>> consider that a "staunchly pro-life position" at all.
>>>>>> While I can't argue with the use of the word to mean "the furthest
>>>>>> point", I would have used "extremists" to describe those people.
>>>>>> Am I alone in this?
>>>>>> In a sentence starting out "The (word) advocate that..." would you use
>>>>>> "extremities" or "extremists" to fill in (word)?
>>>>> Irrelevant, since she never used such a sentence.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it would *if* I attributed the usage to Nancy Mace being
>>>> interviewed on "Meet The Press". By omitting that, the question was
>>>> simply about the usage.
>>>
>>> Once again, a stupid question, since it was prompted by no
>>> usage at all.
>>>
>>>> Your post here is yet another indication of your reputation as a "Well
>>>> Frog". You don't understand that the name of an American television
>>>> network, an American television show, and the name of an American
>>>> congressional Representitive from an American state does not
>>>> contribute to a discussion of a usage question for the multi-national
>>>> readership of this group.
>>>
>>> And you (somehow) don't understand that identification of the
>>> speaker of something considered comment-worthy is a vital
>>> part of interpreting what was said.
>>
>> You are exceeding your own capacity for foolishness. When the
>> discussion is about the choice of "extremities" or "extremists", the
>> name of speaker is irrelevant.
>>
>>>
>>> At the top of the show, another announced interviewee was Stacy
>>> Abrams, and if she had used what you claimed was used, it might
>>> have been interesting.
>>
>> That makes absolutely no sense at all.
>
>Did you imagine that your post would generate such a storm?

Well, when I originate a Subject it is my hope that it will elict some
responses. Responses indicate interest, and the group needs subjects
of interest. "Interest" does not mean "agreement". A well-presented
contradictory comment is equally looked forward to.

This storm, though, was a shower of nonsense that didn't even address
the question of whether or not "extremities" is the appropriate word
for the context.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:53:31 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 07:27:45 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 10:17:21 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
> >> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 06:51:59 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> >> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> >On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 9:38:50 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 05:48:46 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
> >> >> <gram...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> >> >On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:41:21 AM UTC-4, Tony Cooper wrote:
> >
> >> >> >> On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
> >> >> >> used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
> >> >> >> people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the extreme
> >> >> >> right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on the far left
> >> >> >> (abortion up to the time of delivery).
> >> >> >I watched, as I usually do, the 5 pm repeat of NBC's *Meet the
> >> >> >Press* and saw the interview with a Republican Member of
> >> >> >Congress from South Carolina, Nancy Mace.
> >> >> >I wonder whom he thinks he was protecting by failing to name
> >> >> >the program or the interviewee.
> >> >> Protecting? My question was about the usage of "extremities".
> >> >> Identifying the speaker as both a Southerner and Republican could
> >> >> introduce bias into the question. Naming her, and the specific
> >> >> program, would have added no useful context and would have been
> >> >> meaningless to many readers of a.u.e.
> >> >And it would have made available the exposure of your lie about the
> >> >locution that much sooner.
> >>
> >> Lie? Are you now claiming the word used was not "extremities"?
> >
> >I realize you have a desperate need for the last word, but you
> >claimed she used it of extremISTS. She did not.
> No, I did not make that claim. My "claim" was that "extremists" would
> have been the better word choice in that context.

Might've been, if she'd been talking about people, but she wasn't.

> >> You are exceeding your own capacity for foolishness. When the
> >> discussion is about the choice of "extremities" or "extremists", the
> >> name of speaker is irrelevant.
> --
> Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida
> I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

And obstinacy.

On 08-Aug-22 6:00, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 08/08/22 02:53, Lionel Edwards wrote:
>> On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 4:41:21 PM UTC+1, Tony Cooper wrote:
>
>>> On one of the Sunday political discussion TV shows, an interviewee
>>> used the word "extremities" several times. She was discussing
>>> people's attitudes on abortion, and referring to those on the
>>> extreme right (no abortion under any circumstances) and people on
>>> the far left (abortion up to the time of delivery).
>>>
>>> While I can't argue with the use of the word to mean "the furthest
>>> point", I would have used "extremists" to describe those people.
>>>
>>> Am I alone in this?
>>>
>>> In a sentence starting out "The (word) advocate that..." would you
>>> use "extremities" or "extremists" to fill in (word)?
>>
>> You would have to include peaceful religious sects as "extremists",
>> so I don't think that works; but "nutters" covers them all?
>
> You seem to be suggesting that extremists can't be peaceful. In my view
> that's confounding two qualities that should be measured on different axes.

An absolute pacifist sounds pretty extreme to me.

--
Sam Plusnet