See the following wording here [1]:

```
In a word, the package SpaceGroupIrep is a database and tool set for IRs of space group in BC convention, and it is very useful for both study and research.
```

I'm not sure if the wording "both study and research" is a good style.

[1] https://github.com/goodluck1982/SpaceGroupIrep#capabilities-of-spacegroupirep

Regards,
HZ

On Tue, 10 May 2022, at 17:43:46, hongy...@gmail.com posted:
>See the following wording here [1]:
>
>```
>In a word, the package SpaceGroupIrep is a database and tool set for
>IRs of space group in BC convention, and it is very useful for both
>study and research.
>```
>
>I'm not sure if the wording "both study and research" is a good style.
>
>[1]
>https://github.com/goodluck1982/SpaceGroupIrep#capabilities-of-spacegrou
>pirep
>
"A dictionary is useful for both study and research." That's a perfectly
acceptable use of the phrase.

On the other hand, the phrase "for IRs of space group in BC convention"
looks horrible.
--
Paul

On 11/05/22 19:11, Paul Wolff wrote:
> On Tue, 10 May 2022, at 17:43:46, hongy...@gmail.com posted:
>> See the following wording here [1]:
>>
>> ```
>> In a word, the package SpaceGroupIrep is a database and tool set for
>> IRs of space group in BC convention, and it is very useful for both
>> study and research.
>> ```
>>
>> I'm not sure if the wording "both study and research" is a good style.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://github.com/goodluck1982/SpaceGroupIrep#capabilities-of-spacegrou
>> pirep
>>
> "A dictionary is useful for both study and research." That's a perfectly
> acceptable use of the phrase.
>
> On the other hand, the phrase "for IRs of space group in BC convention"
> looks horrible.

Yes, it needs to be spelled out: "For infra-reds of space group in
British Columbia convention".

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

On 5/11/2022 5:11 AM, Paul Wolff wrote:
> hongy...@gmail.com posted:

>> See the following wording here [1]:

>> ``` In a word, the package SpaceGroupIrep is a database and tool
>> set for IRs of space group in BC convention, and it is very useful
>> for both study and research. ```

>> I'm not sure if the wording "both study and research" is a good
>> style.

>> [1]
>> https://github.com/goodluck1982/SpaceGroupIrep#capabilities-of-spacegrou
>>
>>
pirep

> "A dictionary is useful for both study and research." That's a
> perfectly acceptable use of the phrase.

> On the other hand, the phrase "for IRs of space group in BC
> convention" looks horrible.

Or at least (to me) incomprehensible.

You might consider changing "in a word" to something like "briefly" or
"to sum up", since there are many more words than one in what follows.

Watch this space, where Paul Wolff advised that...
> On Tue, 10 May 2022, at 17:43:46, hongy...@gmail.com posted:
>>See the following wording here [1]:
>>
>>```
>>In a word, the package SpaceGroupIrep is a database and tool set for IRs of
>> space group in BC convention, and it is very useful for both study and
>> research.
>>```
>>
>>I'm not sure if the wording "both study and research" is a good style.
>>
>>[1] https://github.com/goodluck1982/SpaceGroupIrep#capabilities-of-spacegrou
>>pirep
>>
> "A dictionary is useful for both study and research." That's a perfectly
> acceptable use of the phrase.
>
> On the other hand, the phrase "for IRs of space group in BC convention" looks
> horrible.

Change to "groups" if there's more than one, or "the group" if there is
only one. Change to "communities" if these are all fans and followers
of space.

/dps

--
As a colleague once told me about an incoming manager,
"He does very well in a suck-up, kick-down culture."
Bill in Vancouver

On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 6:13:23 PM UTC+8, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 11/05/22 19:11, Paul Wolff wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 May 2022, at 17:43:46, hongy...@gmail.com posted:
> >> See the following wording here [1]:
> >>
> >> ```
> >> In a word, the package SpaceGroupIrep is a database and tool set for
> >> IRs of space group in BC convention, and it is very useful for both
> >> study and research.
> >> ```
> >>
> >> I'm not sure if the wording "both study and research" is a good style.
> >>
> >> [1]
> >> https://github.com/goodluck1982/SpaceGroupIrep#capabilities-of-spacegrou
> >> pirep
> >>
> > "A dictionary is useful for both study and research." That's a perfectly
> > acceptable use of the phrase.
> >
> > On the other hand, the phrase "for IRs of space group in BC convention"
> > looks horrible.
> Yes, it needs to be spelled out: "For infra-reds of space group in
> British Columbia convention".

It means the following:

"for irreducible representations [1] of space group [2] in BC [3] convention"

As for [3], the BC is an abbreviation of the author's initials of this book:

The Mathematical Theory of Symmetry in Solids
Representation Theory for Point Groups and Space Groups
Christopher Bradley and Arthur Cracknell

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreducible_representation
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_group
[3] https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-mathematical-theory-of-symmetry-in-solids-9780199582587?cc=bt&lang=en&

> --
> Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

On 2022-05-12 03:51:03 +0000, hongy...@gmail.com said:

> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 6:13:23 PM UTC+8, Peter Moylan wrote:
>> On 11/05/22 19:11, Paul Wolff wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 May 2022, at 17:43:46, hongy...@gmail.com posted:
>>>> See the following wording here [1]:
>>>>
>>>> ```
>>>> In a word, the package SpaceGroupIrep is a database and tool set for
>>>> IRs of space group in BC convention, and it is very useful for both
>>>> study and research.
>>>> ```
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure if the wording "both study and research" is a good style.
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://github.com/goodluck1982/SpaceGroupIrep#capabilities-of-spacegrou
>>>> pirep
>>>>
>>> "A dictionary is useful for both study and research." That's a perfectly
>>> acceptable use of the phrase.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, the phrase "for IRs of space group in BC convention"
>>> looks horrible.
>> Yes, it needs to be spelled out: "For infra-reds of space group in
>> British Columbia convention".
>
> It means the following:
>
> "for irreducible representations [1] of space group [2] in BC [3] convention"
>
> As for [3], the BC is an abbreviation of the author's initials of this book:
>
> The Mathematical Theory of Symmetry in Solids
> Representation Theory for Point Groups and Space Groups
> Christopher Bradley and Arthur Cracknell
>
And readers are expected to know that? How?

As I commented the other day, don't use abbreviations unless you are
sure readers know what they mean.

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

Wednesday, Athel Cornish-Bowden quipped:
> On 2022-05-12 03:51:03 +0000, hongy...@gmail.com said:
>
>> On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 6:13:23 PM UTC+8, Peter Moylan wrote:
>>> On 11/05/22 19:11, Paul Wolff wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 10 May 2022, at 17:43:46, hongy...@gmail.com posted:
>>>>> See the following wording here [1]:
>>>>>
>>>>> ```
>>>>> In a word, the package SpaceGroupIrep is a database and tool set for
>>>>> IRs of space group in BC convention, and it is very useful for both
>>>>> study and research.
>>>>> ```
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure if the wording "both study and research" is a good style.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://github.com/goodluck1982/SpaceGroupIrep#capabilities-of-spacegrou
>>>>> pirep
>>>>>
>>>> "A dictionary is useful for both study and research." That's a perfectly
>>>> acceptable use of the phrase.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, the phrase "for IRs of space group in BC convention"
>>>> looks horrible.
>>> Yes, it needs to be spelled out: "For infra-reds of space group in
>>> British Columbia convention".
>>
>> It means the following:
>>
>> "for irreducible representations [1] of space group [2] in BC [3]
>> convention"
>>
>> As for [3], the BC is an abbreviation of the author's initials of this
>> book:
>>
>> The Mathematical Theory of Symmetry in Solids
>> Representation Theory for Point Groups and Space Groups
>> Christopher Bradley and Arthur Cracknell
>>
> And readers are expected to know that? How?

Because of the context of where that post is?

> As I commented the other day, don't use abbreviations unless you are sure
> readers know what they mean.

Those abbreviations may abound at that site. Perhaps in your line of
work, there are similar sites with abbreviations you'd recognize but
which would be completely foreign to crystallographers.

/dps "although maybe you do crystallography on your protein samples"

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