In message <0mha7hlvg2656aoucm8q9rsu1rc7ea613p@4ax.com> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 06 May 2022 08:45:00 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
> wrote:

>>On Thu, 5 May 2022 23:23:39 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2022-05-05 18:05, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 05 May 2022 17:00:20 -0400, Tony Cooper
>>>> <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 05 May 2022 14:13:56 -0500, msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken Blake:
>>>>>>> I don't think I've ever heard "lineup" used to mean what's "queue" in
>>>>>>> BrE. In my AmE, it's "line."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I say "line" and "lineup" are both correct and, in this sense, equivalent
>>>>>> Leftpondian usage. I think I'd be more likely to call a particular one
>>>>>> a "lineup" when it first entered my consciousness. For example, "When
>>>>>> I looked at the checkout, I realized there was a lineup to pay. In fact,
>>>>>> there were five people in the line."
>>>>>
>>>>> While I have no argument against that usage, simply saying/writing
>>>>> "line" in that context would suffice in my English.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think it's a matter of correct or incorrect, or Canadian or
>>>>> American usage. I think it's probably more individual usage.
>>>>>
>>>>> To me, a "lineup" is something arranged in advance. A baseball lineup
>>>>> or a police lineup". A "line" is what we encounter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Additional thoughts on this...
>>>>
>>>> When refering to a "lineup", it can refer to more than baseball or
>>>> police. We might come across a reference to the "lineup" of speakers
>>>> at a debate or meeting. Again, something decided on in advance.
>>>>
>>>> The people attending the baseball game may "line up" at the ticket
>>>> booth, but they would be said to be "in line". It might be described
>>>> as a line at the ticket booth. Not a "lineup", though.
>>>
>>>MM definitely V.
>>>
>>>Yes, they are 'in line', and I, as well as most, if not all, people I
>>>know would say that is a lineup, as in "There is a long lineup at the
>>>ticket booth.", or "You should get out to the concession before the
>>>lineup gets too long."
>>
>>
>>In both those cases, I would say "line." To me, "lineup" is a verb and
>>"line" is a noun. You can lineup or you can get in line.

> Better than "lineup" would be "line up."

'Line up' is a verb, you cannot use it to say "there is a long line up'
but you could say "a lot of people are lining up".

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In message <7bqa7hhc2mpknbch4d2f05h12o60q5cdvf@4ax.com> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 6 May 2022 10:36:48 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:

>>On 2022-05-06 09:45, Ken Blake wrote:
>>> On Thu, 5 May 2022 23:23:39 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-05-05 18:05, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 05 May 2022 17:00:20 -0400, Tony Cooper
>>>>> <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 05 May 2022 14:13:56 -0500, msb@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ken Blake:
>>>>>>>> I don't think I've ever heard "lineup" used to mean what's "queue" in
>>>>>>>> BrE. In my AmE, it's "line."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I say "line" and "lineup" are both correct and, in this sense, equivalent
>>>>>>> Leftpondian usage. I think I'd be more likely to call a particular one
>>>>>>> a "lineup" when it first entered my consciousness. For example, "When
>>>>>>> I looked at the checkout, I realized there was a lineup to pay. In fact,
>>>>>>> there were five people in the line."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While I have no argument against that usage, simply saying/writing
>>>>>> "line" in that context would suffice in my English.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think it's a matter of correct or incorrect, or Canadian or
>>>>>> American usage. I think it's probably more individual usage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To me, a "lineup" is something arranged in advance. A baseball lineup
>>>>>> or a police lineup". A "line" is what we encounter.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Additional thoughts on this...
>>>>>
>>>>> When refering to a "lineup", it can refer to more than baseball or
>>>>> police. We might come across a reference to the "lineup" of speakers
>>>>> at a debate or meeting. Again, something decided on in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>> The people attending the baseball game may "line up" at the ticket
>>>>> booth, but they would be said to be "in line". It might be described
>>>>> as a line at the ticket booth. Not a "lineup", though.
>>>>
>>>> MM definitely V.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, they are 'in line', and I, as well as most, if not all, people I
>>>> know would say that is a lineup, as in "There is a long lineup at the
>>>> ticket booth.", or "You should get out to the concession before the
>>>> lineup gets too long."
>>>
>>>
>>> In both those cases, I would say "line." To me, "lineup" is a verb and
>>> "line" is a noun. You can lineup or you can get in line.
>>
>>'lineup' is a noun.

> To you. As I said, not to me.

this is not a matter of opinion. Lineup *is* a noun. Period.

You can say that "to you" broccoli means "the gear thsift ina 1945 Ford"
but then we have left the bounds of talking about language and you have
decided that being understood by other peple is of no relevance, which
will make it hard for you to communicate.

Lineup is a noun. It is *only* a noun.

> A verb. As I also said, "line up" would be better to me than "line
> up."

???

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