1) He offended me a lot.
2) I was offended a lot.

3) He annoyed me a lot.
4) I was annoyed a lot.

'A lot' could mean 'a great number of times' here, but could the sentences refer to one occasion, with 'a lot' meaning 'greatly' in them?

I asked a similar question about 'much' a couple of days ago.

Gratefully,
Navi

On 2022-04-19 12:39:28 +0000, arthurvv vart said:

> 1) He offended me a lot.
> 2) I was offended a lot.
>
> 3) He annoyed me a lot.
> 4) I was annoyed a lot.

1 and 3 are OK in informal usage. 2 and 4 are not; you need

2) I was greatly offended
4) I was greatly annoyed
>
> 'A lot' could mean 'a great number of times' here,

Not impossible, but not likely.

> but could the sentences refer to one occasion, with 'a lot' meaning
> 'greatly' in them?

Yes

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 15:46:50 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
<acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:

>On 2022-04-19 12:39:28 +0000, arthurvv vart said:
>
>> 1) He offended me a lot.
>> 2) I was offended a lot.
>>
>> 3) He annoyed me a lot.
>> 4) I was annoyed a lot.
>
>1 and 3 are OK in informal usage. 2 and 4 are not; you need
>
>2) I was greatly offended
>4) I was greatly annoyed
>>
>> 'A lot' could mean 'a great number of times' here,
>
>Not impossible, but not likely.

Agreed.

>> but could the sentences refer to one occasion, with 'a lot' meaning
>> 'greatly' in them?
>
>Yes

Agreed.

Am 19.04.2022 um 14:39 schrieb arthurvv vart:
> 1) He offended me a lot.
> 2) I was offended a lot.
>
> 3) He annoyed me a lot.
> 4) I was annoyed a lot.
>
> 'A lot' could mean 'a great number of times' here, but could the sentences refer to one occasion, with 'a lot' meaning 'greatly' in them?
>
> I asked a similar question about 'much' a couple of days ago.
>
> Gratefully,
> Navi

I know this is a bit off-topic but I couldn't resist:
(Jerry Lundegaard talking to Wade Gustafson)

JL: Wade, have you had a chance to think
about that deal I was talkin' about?
Those 40 acres there on Wayzata?
WG: You told me about it.
JL: Yah. You said you'd think about it.
I understand it's a lot of money.
WG: It's a heck of a lot. What did you
say you gonna put there?
JL: A lot. It's a limited...
WG: I know it's a lot.
JL: I mean a parking lot.
WG: Yeah, well, $750,000 is a lot.
JL: Yeah, well, it's a chunk, but...
WG: I had a couple of lots in the late
50s. Lost a lot of money. A lot of
money.

(from Fargo by Joel and Ethan Coen)

On 2022-04-19 15:29:51 +0000, Gourbi said:

> Am 19.04.2022 um 14:39 schrieb arthurvv vart:
>> 1) He offended me a lot.
>> 2) I was offended a lot.
>>
>> 3) He annoyed me a lot.
>> 4) I was annoyed a lot.
>>
>> 'A lot' could mean 'a great number of times' here, but could the
>> sentences refer to one occasion, with 'a lot' meaning 'greatly' in them?
>>
>> I asked a similar question about 'much' a couple of days ago.
>>
>> Gratefully,
>> Navi
>
> I know this is a bit off-topic but I couldn't resist:
> (Jerry Lundegaard talking to Wade Gustafson)
>
> JL: Wade, have you had a chance to think
> about that deal I was talkin' about?
> Those 40 acres there on Wayzata?
> WG: You told me about it.
> JL: Yah. You said you'd think about it.
> I understand it's a lot of money.
> WG: It's a heck of a lot. What did you
> say you gonna put there?
> JL: A lot. It's a limited...
> WG: I know it's a lot.
> JL: I mean a parking lot.
> WG: Yeah, well, $750,000 is a lot.
> JL: Yeah, well, it's a chunk, but...
> WG: I had a couple of lots in the late
> 50s. Lost a lot of money. A lot of
> money.
>
> (from Fargo by Joel and Ethan Coen)

Off topic, OK, but it's a brilliant film, so you're forgiven. However,
it didn't tempt me to move to North Dakota. Marseilles has better
weather.

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

On 17:06 19 Apr 2022, Athel Cornish-Bowden said:

> On 2022-04-19 15:29:51 +0000, Gourbi said:
>
>> Am 19.04.2022 um 14:39 schrieb arthurvv vart:
>>> 1) He offended me a lot.
>>> 2) I was offended a lot.
>>>
>>> 3) He annoyed me a lot.
>>> 4) I was annoyed a lot.
>>>
>>> 'A lot' could mean 'a great number of times' here, but could the
>>> sentences refer to one occasion, with 'a lot' meaning 'greatly' in
>>> them?
>>>
>>> I asked a similar question about 'much' a couple of days ago.
>>>
>>> Gratefully,
>>> Navi
>>
>> I know this is a bit off-topic but I couldn't resist:
>> (Jerry Lundegaard talking to Wade Gustafson)
>>
>> JL: Wade, have you had a chance to think
>> about that deal I was talkin' about?
>> Those 40 acres there on Wayzata?
>> WG: You told me about it.
>> JL: Yah. You said you'd think about it.
>> I understand it's a lot of money.
>> WG: It's a heck of a lot. What did you
>> say you gonna put there?
>> JL: A lot. It's a limited...
>> WG: I know it's a lot.
>> JL: I mean a parking lot.
>> WG: Yeah, well, $750,000 is a lot.
>> JL: Yeah, well, it's a chunk, but...
>> WG: I had a couple of lots in the late
>> 50s. Lost a lot of money. A lot of
>> money.
>>
>> (from Fargo by Joel and Ethan Coen)
>
> Off topic, OK, but it's a brilliant film, so you're forgiven.
> However, it didn't tempt me to move to North Dakota. Marseilles has
> better weather.

But not less crime?

On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 18:06:35 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
<acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:

>On 2022-04-19 15:29:51 +0000, Gourbi said:
>
>> Am 19.04.2022 um 14:39 schrieb arthurvv vart:
>>> 1) He offended me a lot.
>>> 2) I was offended a lot.
>>>
>>> 3) He annoyed me a lot.
>>> 4) I was annoyed a lot.
>>>
>>> 'A lot' could mean 'a great number of times' here, but could the
>>> sentences refer to one occasion, with 'a lot' meaning 'greatly' in them?
>>>
>>> I asked a similar question about 'much' a couple of days ago.
>>>
>>> Gratefully,
>>> Navi
>>
>> I know this is a bit off-topic but I couldn't resist:
>> (Jerry Lundegaard talking to Wade Gustafson)
>>
>> JL: Wade, have you had a chance to think
>> about that deal I was talkin' about?
>> Those 40 acres there on Wayzata?
>> WG: You told me about it.
>> JL: Yah. You said you'd think about it.
>> I understand it's a lot of money.
>> WG: It's a heck of a lot. What did you
>> say you gonna put there?
>> JL: A lot. It's a limited...
>> WG: I know it's a lot.
>> JL: I mean a parking lot.
>> WG: Yeah, well, $750,000 is a lot.
>> JL: Yeah, well, it's a chunk, but...
>> WG: I had a couple of lots in the late
>> 50s. Lost a lot of money. A lot of
>> money.
>>
>> (from Fargo by Joel and Ethan Coen)
>
>Off topic, OK, but it's a brilliant film, so you're forgiven. However,
>it didn't tempt me to move to North Dakota. Marseilles has better
>weather.

How far would you go away from Marseilles?

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

On 2022-04-19 16:17:53 +0000, Pamela said:

> On 17:06 19 Apr 2022, Athel Cornish-Bowden said:
>
>> On 2022-04-19 15:29:51 +0000, Gourbi said:
>>
>>> Am 19.04.2022 um 14:39 schrieb arthurvv vart:
>>>> 1) He offended me a lot.
>>>> 2) I was offended a lot.
>>>>
>>>> 3) He annoyed me a lot.
>>>> 4) I was annoyed a lot.
>>>>
>>>> 'A lot' could mean 'a great number of times' here, but could the
>>>> sentences refer to one occasion, with 'a lot' meaning 'greatly' in
>>>> them?
>>>>
>>>> I asked a similar question about 'much' a couple of days ago.
>>>>
>>>> Gratefully,
>>>> Navi
>>>
>>> I know this is a bit off-topic but I couldn't resist:
>>> (Jerry Lundegaard talking to Wade Gustafson)
>>>
>>> JL: Wade, have you had a chance to think
>>> about that deal I was talkin' about?
>>> Those 40 acres there on Wayzata?
>>> WG: You told me about it.
>>> JL: Yah. You said you'd think about it.
>>> I understand it's a lot of money.
>>> WG: It's a heck of a lot. What did you
>>> say you gonna put there?
>>> JL: A lot. It's a limited...
>>> WG: I know it's a lot.
>>> JL: I mean a parking lot.
>>> WG: Yeah, well, $750,000 is a lot.
>>> JL: Yeah, well, it's a chunk, but...
>>> WG: I had a couple of lots in the late
>>> 50s. Lost a lot of money. A lot of
>>> money.
>>>
>>> (from Fargo by Joel and Ethan Coen)
>>
>> Off topic, OK, but it's a brilliant film, so you're forgiven.
>> However, it didn't tempt me to move to North Dakota. Marseilles has
>> better weather.
>
> But not less crime?

Marseilles has always had a bad press, but it has less crime than you
might think. Most of the murders involve drug dealers being shot by
other drug dealers: ordinary people are rarely involved.

If I believe what I read, the murder rate in Fargo is about 4 per 100K
population; for Marseilles it's about 2.8 per 100K.

I suspect that there are many more guns in private hands in Fargo.

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

On 2022-04-19 16:18:12 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 18:06:35 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
> <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-04-19 15:29:51 +0000, Gourbi said:
>>
>>> Am 19.04.2022 um 14:39 schrieb arthurvv vart:
>>>> 1) He offended me a lot.
>>>> 2) I was offended a lot.
>>>>
>>>> 3) He annoyed me a lot.
>>>> 4) I was annoyed a lot.
>>>>
>>>> 'A lot' could mean 'a great number of times' here, but could the
>>>> sentences refer to one occasion, with 'a lot' meaning 'greatly' in them?
>>>>
>>>> I asked a similar question about 'much' a couple of days ago.
>>>>
>>>> Gratefully,
>>>> Navi
>>>
>>> I know this is a bit off-topic but I couldn't resist:
>>> (Jerry Lundegaard talking to Wade Gustafson)
>>>
>>> JL: Wade, have you had a chance to think
>>> about that deal I was talkin' about?
>>> Those 40 acres there on Wayzata?
>>> WG: You told me about it.
>>> JL: Yah. You said you'd think about it.
>>> I understand it's a lot of money.
>>> WG: It's a heck of a lot. What did you
>>> say you gonna put there?
>>> JL: A lot. It's a limited...
>>> WG: I know it's a lot.
>>> JL: I mean a parking lot.
>>> WG: Yeah, well, $750,000 is a lot.
>>> JL: Yeah, well, it's a chunk, but...
>>> WG: I had a couple of lots in the late
>>> 50s. Lost a lot of money. A lot of
>>> money.
>>>
>>> (from Fargo by Joel and Ethan Coen)
>>
>> Off topic, OK, but it's a brilliant film, so you're forgiven. However,
>> it didn't tempt me to move to North Dakota. Marseilles has better
>> weather.
>
> How far would you go away from Marseilles?

Nowhere: Marseilles is the best place there is.

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

"Gourbi":
> > (from Fargo by Joel and Ethan Coen)
Athel Cornish-Bowden:
> Off topic, OK, but it's a brilliant film, so you're forgiven. However,
> it didn't tempt me to move to North Dakota.

Ah, but most of the movie takes place in Minnesota.
--
Mark Brader | "I don't want to say they're unsafe,
Toronto | but they're dangerous."
msb@vex.net | --former US transportation sec'y Ray Lahood

On 2022-04-19 11:12, Mark Brader wrote:
> "Gourbi":
>>> (from Fargo by Joel and Ethan Coen)
>
> Athel Cornish-Bowden:
>> Off topic, OK, but it's a brilliant film, so you're forgiven. However,
>> it didn't tempt me to move to North Dakota.
>
> Ah, but most of the movie takes place in Minnesota.

I am reminded of a character on (I think it was) Sesame Street.
Someone had left a scrambled message, and others were trying to figure
it out. So they called on a professional, "Fargo North: Decoder"

On 2022-04-19 16:57:39 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden said:

> On 2022-04-19 16:17:53 +0000, Pamela said:
>
>> On 17:06 19 Apr 2022, Athel Cornish-Bowden said:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-19 15:29:51 +0000, Gourbi said:
>>>
>>>> Am 19.04.2022 um 14:39 schrieb arthurvv vart:
>>>>> 1) He offended me a lot.
>>>>> 2) I was offended a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) He annoyed me a lot.
>>>>> 4) I was annoyed a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> 'A lot' could mean 'a great number of times' here, but could the
>>>>> sentences refer to one occasion, with 'a lot' meaning 'greatly' in
>>>>> them?
>>>>>
>>>>> I asked a similar question about 'much' a couple of days ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gratefully,
>>>>> Navi
>>>>
>>>> I know this is a bit off-topic but I couldn't resist:
>>>> (Jerry Lundegaard talking to Wade Gustafson)
>>>>
>>>> JL: Wade, have you had a chance to think
>>>> about that deal I was talkin' about?
>>>> Those 40 acres there on Wayzata?
>>>> WG: You told me about it.
>>>> JL: Yah. You said you'd think about it.
>>>> I understand it's a lot of money.
>>>> WG: It's a heck of a lot. What did you
>>>> say you gonna put there?
>>>> JL: A lot. It's a limited...
>>>> WG: I know it's a lot.
>>>> JL: I mean a parking lot.
>>>> WG: Yeah, well, $750,000 is a lot.
>>>> JL: Yeah, well, it's a chunk, but...
>>>> WG: I had a couple of lots in the late
>>>> 50s. Lost a lot of money. A lot of
>>>> money.
>>>>
>>>> (from Fargo by Joel and Ethan Coen)
>>>
>>> Off topic, OK, but it's a brilliant film, so you're forgiven.
>>> However, it didn't tempt me to move to North Dakota. Marseilles has
>>> better weather.
>>
>> But not less crime?
>
> Marseilles has always had a bad press, but it has less crime than you
> might think. Most of the murders involve drug dealers being shot by
> other drug dealers: ordinary people are rarely involved.
>
> If I believe what I read, the murder rate in Fargo is about 4 per 100K
> population; for Marseilles it's about 2.8 per 100K.
>
> I suspect that there are many more guns in private hands in Fargo.

After posting that I found a list of the 25 most dangerous cities in
Europe at
https://www.armormax.com/blog/most-dangerous-cities-in-europe/.
Marseilles is on the list, OK, but it only just makes it, at No. 22.
Glasgow, another city with a bad press, is also lower than one might
guess, at No. 8.

A few years ago there was survey that found that Avignon was much more
violent than Marseilles (probably no longer true, however). The bit
that tourists visit, inside the walls, with the Popes' Palace, is safe
enough, but it has some very rough suburbs.

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

Am 19.04.2022 um 18:06 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden:
> On 2022-04-19 15:29:51 +0000, Gourbi said:
>
>> Am 19.04.2022 um 14:39 schrieb arthurvv vart:

>> I know this is a bit off-topic but I couldn't resist:
>> (Jerry Lundegaard talking to Wade Gustafson)
>>
>> JL: Wade, have you had a chance to think
>>      about that deal I was talkin' about?
>>      Those 40 acres there on Wayzata?
>> WG: You told me about it.
>> JL: Yah. You said you'd think about it.
>>      I understand it's a lot of money.
>> WG: It's a heck of a lot. What did you
>>      say you gonna put there?
>> JL: A lot. It's a limited...
>> WG: I know it's a lot.
>> JL: I mean a parking lot.
>> WG: Yeah, well, $750,000 is a lot.
>> JL: Yeah, well, it's a chunk, but...
>> WG: I had a couple of lots in the late
>>      50s. Lost a lot of money. A lot of
>>      money.
>>
>>      (from Fargo by Joel and Ethan Coen)
>
> Off topic, OK, but it's a brilliant film, so you're forgiven.

Thanks a lot ;-)

> However,
> it didn't tempt me to move to North Dakota. Marseilles has better weather.

I've never been in North Dakota or in Minnesota myself, but wheater-wise
Marseille is certainly a good choice.

On 2022-04-19, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

> On 2022-04-19 16:18:12 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
>
>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 18:06:35 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
>> <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-19 15:29:51 +0000, Gourbi said:
>>>
>>>> Am 19.04.2022 um 14:39 schrieb arthurvv vart:
>>>>> 1) He offended me a lot.
>>>>> 2) I was offended a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) He annoyed me a lot.
>>>>> 4) I was annoyed a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> 'A lot' could mean 'a great number of times' here, but could the
>>>>> sentences refer to one occasion, with 'a lot' meaning 'greatly' in them?
>>>>>
>>>>> I asked a similar question about 'much' a couple of days ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gratefully,
>>>>> Navi
>>>>
>>>> I know this is a bit off-topic but I couldn't resist:
>>>> (Jerry Lundegaard talking to Wade Gustafson)
>>>>
>>>> JL: Wade, have you had a chance to think
>>>> about that deal I was talkin' about?
>>>> Those 40 acres there on Wayzata?
>>>> WG: You told me about it.
>>>> JL: Yah. You said you'd think about it.
>>>> I understand it's a lot of money.
>>>> WG: It's a heck of a lot. What did you
>>>> say you gonna put there?
>>>> JL: A lot. It's a limited...
>>>> WG: I know it's a lot.
>>>> JL: I mean a parking lot.
>>>> WG: Yeah, well, $750,000 is a lot.
>>>> JL: Yeah, well, it's a chunk, but...
>>>> WG: I had a couple of lots in the late
>>>> 50s. Lost a lot of money. A lot of
>>>> money.
>>>>
>>>> (from Fargo by Joel and Ethan Coen)
>>>
>>> Off topic, OK, but it's a brilliant film, so you're forgiven. However,
>>> it didn't tempt me to move to North Dakota. Marseilles has better
>>> weather.
>>
>> How far would you go away from Marseilles?
>
> Nowhere: Marseilles is the best place there is.

....dans le meilleur des mondes.

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

--
There’s never enough time to do all the nothing you want.
---Calvin

On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 18:59:20 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
<acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:

>On 2022-04-19 16:18:12 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
>
>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 18:06:35 +0200, Athel Cornish-Bowden
>> <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-04-19 15:29:51 +0000, Gourbi said:
>>>
>>>> Am 19.04.2022 um 14:39 schrieb arthurvv vart:
>>>>> 1) He offended me a lot.
>>>>> 2) I was offended a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) He annoyed me a lot.
>>>>> 4) I was annoyed a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> 'A lot' could mean 'a great number of times' here, but could the
>>>>> sentences refer to one occasion, with 'a lot' meaning 'greatly' in them?
>>>>>
>>>>> I asked a similar question about 'much' a couple of days ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gratefully,
>>>>> Navi
>>>>
>>>> I know this is a bit off-topic but I couldn't resist:
>>>> (Jerry Lundegaard talking to Wade Gustafson)
>>>>
>>>> JL: Wade, have you had a chance to think
>>>> about that deal I was talkin' about?
>>>> Those 40 acres there on Wayzata?
>>>> WG: You told me about it.
>>>> JL: Yah. You said you'd think about it.
>>>> I understand it's a lot of money.
>>>> WG: It's a heck of a lot. What did you
>>>> say you gonna put there?
>>>> JL: A lot. It's a limited...
>>>> WG: I know it's a lot.
>>>> JL: I mean a parking lot.
>>>> WG: Yeah, well, $750,000 is a lot.
>>>> JL: Yeah, well, it's a chunk, but...
>>>> WG: I had a couple of lots in the late
>>>> 50s. Lost a lot of money. A lot of
>>>> money.
>>>>
>>>> (from Fargo by Joel and Ethan Coen)
>>>
>>> Off topic, OK, but it's a brilliant film, so you're forgiven. However,
>>> it didn't tempt me to move to North Dakota. Marseilles has better
>>> weather.
>>
>> How far would you go away from Marseilles?
>
>Nowhere: Marseilles is the best place there is.

Interesting. I have never been in Marseilles , so I have no opinions
about it, but can I ask why you feel that way?

On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 19:35:17 +0200, Gourbi <gourbi@freenet.de> wrote:

>Am 19.04.2022 um 18:06 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden:
>> On 2022-04-19 15:29:51 +0000, Gourbi said:
>>
>>> Am 19.04.2022 um 14:39 schrieb arthurvv vart:
>
>
>>> I know this is a bit off-topic but I couldn't resist:
>>> (Jerry Lundegaard talking to Wade Gustafson)
>>>
>>> JL: Wade, have you had a chance to think
>>>      about that deal I was talkin' about?
>>>      Those 40 acres there on Wayzata?
>>> WG: You told me about it.
>>> JL: Yah. You said you'd think about it.
>>>      I understand it's a lot of money.
>>> WG: It's a heck of a lot. What did you
>>>      say you gonna put there?
>>> JL: A lot. It's a limited...
>>> WG: I know it's a lot.
>>> JL: I mean a parking lot.
>>> WG: Yeah, well, $750,000 is a lot.
>>> JL: Yeah, well, it's a chunk, but...
>>> WG: I had a couple of lots in the late
>>>      50s. Lost a lot of money. A lot of
>>>      money.
>>>
>>>      (from Fargo by Joel and Ethan Coen)
>>
>> Off topic, OK, but it's a brilliant film, so you're forgiven.
>
>Thanks a lot ;-)
>
>> However,
>> it didn't tempt me to move to North Dakota. Marseilles has better weather.
>
>I've never been in North Dakota or in Minnesota myself, but wheater-wise
>Marseille is certainly a good choice.

Except for those people on a gluten-free diet,

On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 19:20:11 +0200
Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:

>
> After posting that I found a list of the 25 most dangerous cities in
> Europe at
> https://www.armormax.com/blog/most-dangerous-cities-in-europe/.
> Marseilles is on the list, OK, but it only just makes it, at No. 22.
> Glasgow, another city with a bad press, is also lower than one might
> guess, at No. 8.

<Quote>
23. Donetsk, Ukraine

Donetsk is the 5th largest city in Ukraine and one of the country’s main industrial centres. The city has some interesting museums to visit as well as architecture that would tempt a lot of people. However, the city is one that’s best avoided.
</Quote>

Sounds like a plan.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

On 2022-04-19 20:44:59 +0000, Kerr-Mudd, John said:

> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 19:20:11 +0200
> Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>
>>
>> After posting that I found a list of the 25 most dangerous cities in
>> Europe at
>> https://www.armormax.com/blog/most-dangerous-cities-in-europe/.
>> Marseilles is on the list, OK, but it only just makes it, at No. 22.
>> Glasgow, another city with a bad press, is also lower than one might
>> guess, at No. 8.
>
> <Quote>
> 23. Donetsk, Ukraine
>
> Donetsk is the 5th largest city in Ukraine and one of the country’s
> main industrial centres. The city has some interesting museums to visit
> as well as architecture that would tempt a lot of people. However, the
> city is one that’s best avoided.
> </Quote>
>
> Sounds like a plan.

Well yes. I noticed the bits about Ukraine. I think they will need to
be revised.

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

On 20/04/22 03:54, Adam Funk wrote:
> On 2022-04-19, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>
>> On 2022-04-19 16:18:12 +0000, Tony Cooper said:

>>> How far would you go away from Marseilles?

>> Nowhere: Marseilles is the best place there is.
>
> ...dans le meilleur des mondes.
>
> (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

I realise now that it's well over 30 years since I last read that story.
I must try to find another copy.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

Am 19.04.2022 um 20:57 schrieb Ken Blake:
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 19:35:17 +0200, Gourbi <gourbi@freenet.de> wrote:
>

>> I've never been in North Dakota or in Minnesota myself, but wheater-wise
>> Marseille is certainly a good choice.
>
weather-wise

> Except for those people on a gluten-free diet,

;-)

Le 19/04/2022 à 17:59, Athel Cornish-Bowden a écrit :
> On 2022-04-19 16:18:12 +0000, Tony Cooper said:
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>> How far would you go away from Marseilles?
>
> Nowhere: Marseilles is the best place there is.

That's possible - though the dustmen there don't seem very happy (and I
suppose it must therefore be a bit niffy at times).