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* Second most democratic country in the worldAthel Cornish-Bowden
+* Re: Second most democratic country in the worldRichard Heathfield
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 +* Re: Second most democratic country in the worldArindam Banerjee
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From: acorn...@imm.cnrs.fr (Athel Cornish-Bowden)
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 by: Athel Cornish-Bowden - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 10:19 UTC

Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I
don't know why, as I
don't remember ever registering with Quora.

Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
country in the world after the USA.

How would you all answer this question?

(This isn't really off-topic, as it concerns what is meant by
"democratic" as an English word.)

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

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 by: Richard Heathfield - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 10:28 UTC

On 10/04/2022 11:19 am, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I don't
> know why, as I
> don't remember ever registering with Quora.
>
> Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
> country in the world after the USA.
>
> How would you all answer this question?

As follows:

Surely the second most democratic country would be *before* the USA?

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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 by: Janet - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 12:32 UTC

In article <jbfpa8FisiaU1@mid.individual.net>, acornish@imm.cnrs.fr
says...
>
> Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I
> don't know why, as I
> don't remember ever registering with Quora.
>
> Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
> country in the world after the USA.
>
> How would you all answer this question?

"Er, who on earth thinks America is the most democratic country in the
world? ...."

Janet

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/democracy-countries
"The 10 most democratic nations in the world (2020):

Norway (9.87)
Iceland (9.58)
Sweden (9.39)
New Zealand (9.26)
Finland (9.25)
Ireland (9.24)
Canada (9.22)
Denmark (9.22)
Australia (9.09)
Switzerland (9.03)"

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 by: J. J. Lodder - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 14:13 UTC

Janet <nobody@hame.cock> wrote:

> In article <jbfpa8FisiaU1@mid.individual.net>, acornish@imm.cnrs.fr
> says...
> >
> > Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I
> > don't know why, as I
> > don't remember ever registering with Quora.
> >
> > Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
> > country in the world after the USA.
> >
> > How would you all answer this question?
>
> "Er, who on earth thinks America is the most democratic country in the
> world? ...."
>
> Janet
>
>
> https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/democracy-countries
>
> "The 10 most democratic nations in the world (2020):
>
> Norway (9.87)
> Iceland (9.58)
> Sweden (9.39)
> New Zealand (9.26)
> Finland (9.25)
> Ireland (9.24)
> Canada (9.22)
> Denmark (9.22)
> Australia (9.09)
> Switzerland (9.03)"

And the USA is not even a 'full democracy' in that list.
It is a 'flawed democracy' instead.

No surprise there,

Jan

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On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 13:32:37 +0100, Janet <nobody@hame.cock> wrote:

>In article <jbfpa8FisiaU1@mid.individual.net>, acornish@imm.cnrs.fr
>says...
>>
>> Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I
>> don't know why, as I
>> don't remember ever registering with Quora.
>>
>> Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
>> country in the world after the USA.
>>
>> How would you all answer this question?
>
> "Er, who on earth thinks America is the most democratic country in the
>world? ...."

Probably most Americans.

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 by: spains...@gmail.com - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 17:32 UTC

On Sunday, April 10, 2022 at 6:20:12 PM UTC+1, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 13:32:37 +0100, Janet <nob...@hame.cock> wrote:
>
> >In article <jbfpa8...@mid.individual.net>, acor...@imm.cnrs.fr
> >says...
> >>
> >> Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I
> >> don't know why, as I
> >> don't remember ever registering with Quora.
> >>
> >> Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
> >> country in the world after the USA.
> >>
> >> How would you all answer this question?
> >
> > "Er, who on earth thinks America is the most democratic country in the
> >world? ...."
> Probably most Americans.

Two party and storm the Senate if you don't get what you want?

They also have this though:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkDAb4hlof0>

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 19:28 UTC

On 10-Apr-22 13:32, Janet wrote:
> In article <jbfpa8FisiaU1@mid.individual.net>, acornish@imm.cnrs.fr
> says...
>>
>> Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I
>> don't know why, as I
>> don't remember ever registering with Quora.
>>
>> Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
>> country in the world after the USA.
>>
>> How would you all answer this question?
>
> "Er, who on earth thinks America is the most democratic country in the
> world? ...."

To be fair, in other countries no-one ever gets the chance to vote for a
dog-catcher.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: lar3ryca - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 21:06 UTC

On 2022-04-10 13:28, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 10-Apr-22 13:32, Janet wrote:
>> In article <jbfpa8FisiaU1@mid.individual.net>, acornish@imm.cnrs.fr
>> says...
>>>
>>> Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I
>>> don't know why, as I
>>> don't remember ever registering with Quora.
>>>
>>> Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
>>> country in the world after the USA.
>>>
>>> How would you all answer this question?
>>
>>    "Er, who on earth thinks America is the most democratic country in the
>> world? ...."
>
> To be fair, in other countries no-one ever gets the chance to vote for a
> dog-catcher.

Right now I wish that Canada didn't have a prime minister
who couldn't hold down a dog-catcher's job if he tried.

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 by: Tony Cooper - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 21:52 UTC

On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 15:06:43 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:

>On 2022-04-10 13:28, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 10-Apr-22 13:32, Janet wrote:
>>> In article <jbfpa8FisiaU1@mid.individual.net>, acornish@imm.cnrs.fr
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I
>>>> don't know why, as I
>>>> don't remember ever registering with Quora.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
>>>> country in the world after the USA.
>>>>
>>>> How would you all answer this question?
>>>
>>>    "Er, who on earth thinks America is the most democratic country in the
>>> world? ...."
>>
>> To be fair, in other countries no-one ever gets the chance to vote for a
>> dog-catcher.
>
>Right now I wish that Canada didn't have a prime minister
>who couldn't hold down a dog-catcher's job if he tried.
>
I have never been in a place where the dog-catcher was an elected
office, but I have seen this:

https://folio.ink/e37vx
--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

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 by: Arindam Banerjee - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 21:59 UTC

On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 22:32:42 UTC+10, Janet wrote:
> In article <jbfpa8...@mid.individual.net>, acor...@imm.cnrs.fr
> says...
> >
> > Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I
> > don't know why, as I
> > don't remember ever registering with Quora.
> >
> > Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
> > country in the world after the USA.
> >
> > How would you all answer this question?
> "Er, who on earth thinks America is the most democratic country in the
> world? ...."
>
> Janet
>
>
> https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/democracy-countries
>
> "The 10 most democratic nations in the world (2020):
>
> Norway (9.87)
> Iceland (9.58)
> Sweden (9.39)
> New Zealand (9.26)
> Finland (9.25)
> Ireland (9.24)
> Canada (9.22)
> Denmark (9.22)
> Australia (9.09)
> Switzerland (9.03)"

What rubbish, India is by far the most democratic country in the world. Always was.
As for Norway, the less said about its democracy the better.
Seeing "Vikings" thanks to Netflix, how they murdered the pagans.
These are all Christian theocracies, where non-Christians are totally marginalized. (Atheists are in their way Christians, too, so far as outing non-Christians are concerned.)

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 by: Richard Heathfield - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 22:27 UTC

On 10/04/2022 10:52 pm, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 15:06:43 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-04-10 13:28, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> On 10-Apr-22 13:32, Janet wrote:
>>>> In article <jbfpa8FisiaU1@mid.individual.net>, acornish@imm.cnrs.fr
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I
>>>>> don't know why, as I
>>>>> don't remember ever registering with Quora.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
>>>>> country in the world after the USA.
>>>>>
>>>>> How would you all answer this question?
>>>>
>>>>    "Er, who on earth thinks America is the most democratic country in the
>>>> world? ...."
>>>
>>> To be fair, in other countries no-one ever gets the chance to vote for a
>>> dog-catcher.
>>
>> Right now I wish that Canada didn't have a prime minister
>> who couldn't hold down a dog-catcher's job if he tried.
>>
> I have never been in a place where the dog-catcher was an elected
> office, but I have seen this:
>
>
> https://folio.ink/e37vx

Congratulations to Israel Bergenson.

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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 by: lar3ryca - Mon, 11 Apr 2022 04:25 UTC

On 2022-04-10 15:52, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 15:06:43 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-04-10 13:28, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> On 10-Apr-22 13:32, Janet wrote:
>>>> In article <jbfpa8FisiaU1@mid.individual.net>, acornish@imm.cnrs.fr
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I
>>>>> don't know why, as I
>>>>> don't remember ever registering with Quora.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
>>>>> country in the world after the USA.
>>>>>
>>>>> How would you all answer this question?
>>>>
>>>>    "Er, who on earth thinks America is the most democratic country in the
>>>> world? ...."
>>>
>>> To be fair, in other countries no-one ever gets the chance to vote for a
>>> dog-catcher.
>>
>> Right now I wish that Canada didn't have a prime minister
>> who couldn't hold down a dog-catcher's job if he tried.
>>
> I have never been in a place where the dog-catcher was an elected
> office, but I have seen this:
>
> https://folio.ink/e37vx

In your opinion, does that sign indicate that he is running for the
office of 'Jailer', or is that his current occupation?

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On Sunday, April 10, 2022 at 2:06:48 PM UTC-7, lar3ryca wrote:
> On 2022-04-10 13:28, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> > On 10-Apr-22 13:32, Janet wrote:
> >> In article <jbfpa8...@mid.individual.net>, acor...@imm.cnrs.fr
> >> says...
> >>>
> >>> Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I
> >>> don't know why, as I
> >>> don't remember ever registering with Quora.
> >>>
> >>> Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
> >>> country in the world after the USA.
> >>>
> >>> How would you all answer this question?
> >>
> >> "Er, who on earth thinks America is the most democratic country in the
> >> world? ...."
> >
> > To be fair, in other countries no-one ever gets the chance to vote for a
> > dog-catcher.
> Right now I wish that Canada didn't have a prime minister
> who couldn't hold down a dog-catcher's job if he tried.

I don't think I like his prospects as a dog-catcher. But he's a good choice for
prime minister. I suspect that more than half his votes come from people who
can't bring themselves to vote either Conservative or NDP. They cringe a little
when they go the polling place and vote Liberal. Then they go home and sleep
well, in the knowledge that Justin will win again, and that he will not start any wars.

bill, but he might help Ukraine finance one

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 by: Hibou - Mon, 11 Apr 2022 07:48 UTC

Le 10/04/2022 à 11:28, Richard Heathfield a écrit :
> On 10/04/2022 11:19 am, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>
>> Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I
>> don't know why, as I
>> don't remember ever registering with Quora.
>>
>> Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
>> country in the world after the USA.
>>
>> How would you all answer this question?
>
> As follows:
>
> Surely the second most democratic country would be *before* the USA?

America is a land of opportunity. Any billionaire can hope to become
President.

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On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 14:59:01 -0700 (PDT)
Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 22:32:42 UTC+10, Janet wrote:
> > In article <jbfpa8...@mid.individual.net>, acor...@imm.cnrs.fr
> > says...
> > >
> > > Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I
> > > don't know why, as I
> > > don't remember ever registering with Quora.
> > >
> > > Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
> > > country in the world after the USA.
> > >
> > > How would you all answer this question?
> > "Er, who on earth thinks America is the most democratic country in the
> > world? ...."
> >
> > Janet
> >
> >
> > https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/democracy-countries
> >
> > "The 10 most democratic nations in the world (2020):
> >
> > Norway (9.87)
> > Iceland (9.58)
> > Sweden (9.39)
> > New Zealand (9.26)
> > Finland (9.25)
> > Ireland (9.24)
> > Canada (9.22)
> > Denmark (9.22)
> > Australia (9.09)
> > Switzerland (9.03)"
>
> What rubbish, India is by far the most democratic country in the world. Always was.

Of course. Especially under the Maharajahs. Remember that caste system?

> As for Norway, the less said about its democracy the better.
> Seeing "Vikings" thanks to Netflix, how they murdered the pagans.
> These are all Christian theocracies, where non-Christians are totally marginalized. (Atheists are in their way Christians, too, so far as outing non-Christians are concerned.)

P.S. What's the death-rate per election these days?

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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 by: Dingbat - Mon, 11 Apr 2022 07:58 UTC

On Sunday, April 10, 2022 at 5:32:42 AM UTC-7, Janet wrote:
> In article <jbfpa8...@mid.individual.net>, acor...@imm.cnrs.fr
> says...
> >
> > Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I
> > don't know why, as I
> > don't remember ever registering with Quora.
> >
> > Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
> > country in the world after the USA.
> >
> > How would you all answer this question?
> "Er, who on earth thinks America is the most democratic country in the
> world? ...."
>
> Janet
>
Hmm, the USA is not in the worldpopulationreview.com list of the 10 most
democratic countries. For the sake of argument, suppose the USA is #18.
Then, the question means: Which country is #20? But that is not the
response the question is intended to elicit. Giving that answer might
provoke ructions. Bear that in mind before answering.
>
> https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/democracy-countries
>
> "The 10 most democratic nations in the world (2020):
>
> Norway (9.87)
> Iceland (9.58)
> Sweden (9.39)
> New Zealand (9.26)
> Finland (9.25)
> Ireland (9.24)
> Canada (9.22)
> Denmark (9.22)
> Australia (9.09)
> Switzerland (9.03)"

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 by: Athel Cornish-Bowden - Mon, 11 Apr 2022 08:58 UTC

On 2022-04-10 17:20:06 +0000, Ken Blake said:

> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 13:32:37 +0100, Janet <nobody@hame.cock> wrote:
>
>> In article <jbfpa8FisiaU1@mid.individual.net>, acornish@imm.cnrs.fr>says...
>>>
>>> Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I>>
>>> don't know why, as I
>>> don't remember ever registering with Quora.
>>>
>>> Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic>>
>>> country in the world after the USA.
>>>
>>> How would you all answer this question?
>>
>> "Er, who on earth thinks America is the most democratic country in
>> the>world? ...."
>
>
> Probably most Americans.

That's what I thought, but I'm glad to see an American say it. However,
it illustrates how out of touch many Americans are with the world
beyond their shores, or even beyond their northern border.

Anyway, the answer to the original question is Estonia, which ranks
27th, just after the USA at 26th. The person who answered it at Quora
said Cabo Verde at 26th, with the USA at 25th. However, [s]he was using
data for 2018. Since then Cabo Verde has dropped a lot and the USA a
bit. I shall be surprised if the USA stays as high as 26th, with all
the current voter-suppression efforts.

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

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 by: Arindam Banerjee - Mon, 11 Apr 2022 10:18 UTC

On Monday, 11 April 2022 at 17:55:04 UTC+10, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 14:59:01 -0700 (PDT)
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 22:32:42 UTC+10, Janet wrote:
> > > In article <jbfpa8...@mid.individual.net>, acor...@imm.cnrs.fr
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > > Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I
> > > > don't know why, as I
> > > > don't remember ever registering with Quora.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
> > > > country in the world after the USA.
> > > >
> > > > How would you all answer this question?
> > > "Er, who on earth thinks America is the most democratic country in the
> > > world? ...."
> > >
> > > Janet
> > >
> > >
> > > https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/democracy-countries
> > >
> > > "The 10 most democratic nations in the world (2020):
> > >
> > > Norway (9.87)
> > > Iceland (9.58)
> > > Sweden (9.39)
> > > New Zealand (9.26)
> > > Finland (9.25)
> > > Ireland (9.24)
> > > Canada (9.22)
> > > Denmark (9.22)
> > > Australia (9.09)
> > > Switzerland (9.03)"
> >
> > What rubbish, India is by far the most democratic country in the world. Always was.
> Of course. Especially under the Maharajahs.

Yes, they were having nearly 100% of the popular vote in their time.

> Remember that caste system?

Why not? It is the very best social system, ever. Works wonders for Indians. Tremendous scope, freedom, no hassle, great skills, wonderful spouses, loving children... what more to want?

> > As for Norway, the less said about its democracy the better.
> > Seeing "Vikings" thanks to Netflix, how they murdered the pagans.
> > These are all Christian theocracies, where non-Christians are totally marginalized. (Atheists are in their way Christians, too, so far as outing non-Christians are concerned.)
> P.S. What's the death-rate per election these days?

Why bother about elections? Democracy means will of the people, and when most people will their leader rules, why have elections.
Elections are for the shady rich scum, by fools, to place puppets in charge.
The shady rich scum are dead against any honest popular leader.
>
>
> --
> Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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 by: Janet - Mon, 11 Apr 2022 11:49 UTC

In article <t30mgm$t7v$1@gioia.aioe.org>, h.i@b.ou says...
>
> Le 10/04/2022 à 11:28, Richard Heathfield a écrit :
> > On 10/04/2022 11:19 am, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> >>
> >> Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I
> >> don't know why, as I
> >> don't remember ever registering with Quora.
> >>
> >> Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
> >> country in the world after the USA.
> >>
> >> How would you all answer this question?
> >
> > As follows:
> >
> > Surely the second most democratic country would be *before* the USA?
>
> America is a land of opportunity. Any billionaire can hope to become
> President.

"Democracy is when anyone can buy an election result"

??

Janet

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On 4/11/2022 3:48 AM, Hibou wrote:
> Richard Heathfield a écrit :
>> Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

>>> Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask.
>>> I don't know why, as I don't remember ever registering with
>>> Quora.

>>> Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most
>>> democratic country in the world after the USA.

>>> How would you all answer this question?

>> As follows:

>> Surely the second most democratic country would be *before* the
>> USA?

> America is a land of opportunity. Any billionaire can hope to become
> President.

Or at least own one.

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 by: CDB - Mon, 11 Apr 2022 13:05 UTC

On 4/10/2022 5:06 PM, lar3ryca wrote:
> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> Janet wrote:
>>> acornish@imm.cnrs.fr says...

>>>> Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people
>>>> ask. I don't know why, as I don't remember ever registering
>>>> with Quora.

>>>> Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most
>>>> democratic country in the world after the USA.
>>>>
>>>> How would you all answer this question?

>>> "Er, who on earth thinks America is the most democratic country
>>> in the world? ...."

>> To be fair, in other countries no-one ever gets the chance to vote
>> for a dog-catcher.

> Right now I wish that Canada didn't have a prime minister who
> couldn't hold down a dog-catcher's job if he tried.

Wait and see. His party has still got a few canny backroom b^W persons.
The news last night was that the Liberals are planning to hold a policy
convention in 2023; maybe he'll resign and be replaced by someone less
widely resented. All he has to do till then is keep Jagmeet sweet.

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 by: occam - Mon, 11 Apr 2022 16:39 UTC

On 10/04/2022 23:52, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 15:06:43 -0600, lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-04-10 13:28, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> On 10-Apr-22 13:32, Janet wrote:
>>>> In article <jbfpa8FisiaU1@mid.individual.net>, acornish@imm.cnrs.fr
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I
>>>>> don't know why, as I
>>>>> don't remember ever registering with Quora.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
>>>>> country in the world after the USA.
>>>>>
>>>>> How would you all answer this question?
>>>>
>>>>    "Er, who on earth thinks America is the most democratic country in the
>>>> world? ...."
>>>
>>> To be fair, in other countries no-one ever gets the chance to vote for a
>>> dog-catcher.
>>
>> Right now I wish that Canada didn't have a prime minister
>> who couldn't hold down a dog-catcher's job if he tried.
>>
> I have never been in a place where the dog-catcher was an elected
> office, but I have seen this:
>
>
> https://folio.ink/e37vx
Nice photo. Is it one of yours?

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On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 3:18:07 AM UTC-7, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Monday, 11 April 2022 at 17:55:04 UTC+10, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> > On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 14:59:01 -0700 (PDT)
> > Arindam Banerjee <banerjee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sunday, 10 April 2022 at 22:32:42 UTC+10, Janet wrote:
> > > > In article <jbfpa8...@mid.individual.net>, acor...@imm.cnrs.fr
> > > > says...
> > > > >
> > > > > Quora has taken to bombarding me with questions that people ask. I
> > > > > don't know why, as I
> > > > > don't remember ever registering with Quora.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, yesterday someone asked which was the second most democratic
> > > > > country in the world after the USA.
> > > > >
> > > > > How would you all answer this question?
> > > > "Er, who on earth thinks America is the most democratic country in the
> > > > world? ...."
> > > >
> > > > Janet
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/democracy-countries
> > > >
> > > > "The 10 most democratic nations in the world (2020):
> > > >
> > > > Norway (9.87)
> > > > Iceland (9.58)
> > > > Sweden (9.39)
> > > > New Zealand (9.26)
> > > > Finland (9.25)
> > > > Ireland (9.24)
> > > > Canada (9.22)
> > > > Denmark (9.22)
> > > > Australia (9.09)
> > > > Switzerland (9.03)"
> > >
> > > What rubbish, India is by far the most democratic country in the world. Always was.
> > Of course. Especially under the Maharajahs.
> Yes, they were having nearly 100% of the popular vote in their time.
>
> > Remember that caste system?
>
> Why not? It is the very best social system, ever. Works wonders for Indians. Tremendous scope, freedom, no hassle, great skills, wonderful spouses, loving children... what more to want?

You mean the jati system. Jati is a meaning of caste in Indian English.
By the Indian Constitution, people of all jatis (which it calls castes) have the same
rights and privileges.

In other Englishes, the purpose of caste is to designate people as unequal in privilege.
If that is the best social system, strive to get 1 in 6 Australians treated as Dalits.

> > > As for Norway, the less said about its democracy the better.
> > > Seeing "Vikings" thanks to Netflix, how they murdered the pagans.
> > > These are all Christian theocracies, where non-Christians are totally marginalized. (Atheists are in their way Christians, too, so far as outing non-Christians are concerned.)
> > P.S. What's the death-rate per election these days?
> Why bother about elections? Democracy means will of the people, and when most people will their leader rules, why have elections.
> Elections are for the shady rich scum, by fools, to place puppets in charge.
> The shady rich scum are dead against any honest popular leader.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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lar3ryca hat am 10.04.2022 um 23:06 geschrieben:
> Right now I wish that Canada didn't have a prime minister
> who couldn't hold down a dog-catcher's job if he tried.

Please send him to Hungary, Poland and many other EU countries. He'd be
a great improvement.

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 by: Silvano - Mon, 11 Apr 2022 18:28 UTC

Kerr-Mudd, John hat am 11.04.2022 um 09:54 geschrieben:
> Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> wrote:

Rubbish, as he always does.

Why do you waste even a minute of your life answering that *****?


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