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 by: ltlee1 - Thu, 23 Mar 2023 21:54 UTC

On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 7:52:03 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 4:36:17 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:55:20 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> > > An interesting case.
> > > "大陸鍾姓男子2018年來台騎單車環島,行經高雄市路竹區時卻遭路燈電擊,當場死亡,家屬跨海提告,要求申請國賠千萬元。高雄地院與高分院認為,依憲法來說,大陸地區人民也是中華民國人民,應適用於國家賠償法,且高雄市府工務局確實有疏失,所以判工務局須賠463萬。
> > > 行政院大陸委員會(陸委會)17日發新聞稿指出,有媒體報導,本案法官經函詢大陸委員會獲函復中國大陸人民也是中華民國人民,適用國家賠償法乙節恐有誤會,本會函復內容從未指稱中國大陸人民是中華民國國民。"
> > > https://www.chinatimes.com/realtimenews/20230218000054-260407?chdtv
> > Yes both sides are citizens to each side too. Regardless, the law suit is upheld in Taiwan judgment should be made for compensation.
> Yes. The ROC Constitution recognizes Mainlanders as ROC people. And the PRC Constitution recognizes ROC people as PRC people. The problem between the PRC and the ROC is the problem of ONE PEOPLE, ONE CHINESE PEOPLE.
>
> However PRC and the ROC are going to resolve their difference, it is an INTERNAL problem and DEMOCRATIC in nature among the ONE CHINESE PEOPLE.
Consensus between the PRC and the ROC themselves:
1. Both the PRC and the ROC accepts the fact that there is only ONE CHINA of ONE PEOPLE per their constitutions.
2. Both recognize the current reality that this ONE CHINA is awaiting RE-Unification.
3. Currently, it is Mainland China on one side and Taiwan (considered the "Free Region" per the ROC, and the Taiwan Province per the PRC) on the other side.
4. Both recognize the other side's government as legitimate regard its side.
5. Both do not recognize the other side's sovereignty. Hence neither PRC nor ROC leader would address their counterpart as "President". They were
called "Mr Xi and Ma" when they met each other last time.
Reality:
Given that the PRC is the winning side the Chinese Civil War, PRC is many times larger than its ROC counterpart in terms of territory and population. In addition, the PRC government is recognized as the sole legitimate representative of this ONE CHINA of ONE PEOPLE by the UN. PRC also imposes this ONE CHINA of ONE PEOPLE as the condition of diplomatic relation.

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 by: ltlee1 - Thu, 30 Mar 2023 22:13 UTC

On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 9:54:28 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
> On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 7:52:03 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 4:36:17 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
> > > On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:55:20 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> > > > An interesting case.
> > > > "大陸鍾姓男子2018年來台騎單車環島,行經高雄市路竹區時卻遭路燈電擊,當場死亡,家屬跨海提告,要求申請國賠千萬元。高雄地院與高分院認為,依憲法來說,大陸地區人民也是中華民國人民,應適用於國家賠償法,且高雄市府工務局確實有疏失,所以判工務局須賠463萬。
> > > > 行政院大陸委員會(陸委會)17日發新聞稿指出,有媒體報導,本案法官經函詢大陸委員會獲函復中國大陸人民也是中華民國人民,適用國家賠償法乙節恐有誤會,本會函復內容從未指稱中國大陸人民是中華民國國民。"
> > > > https://www.chinatimes.com/realtimenews/20230218000054-260407?chdtv
> > > Yes both sides are citizens to each side too. Regardless, the law suit is upheld in Taiwan judgment should be made for compensation.
> > Yes. The ROC Constitution recognizes Mainlanders as ROC people. And the PRC Constitution recognizes ROC people as PRC people. The problem between the PRC and the ROC is the problem of ONE PEOPLE, ONE CHINESE PEOPLE.
> >
> > However PRC and the ROC are going to resolve their difference, it is an INTERNAL problem and DEMOCRATIC in nature among the ONE CHINESE PEOPLE.
>
> Consensus between the PRC and the ROC themselves:
> 1. Both the PRC and the ROC accepts the fact that there is only ONE CHINA of ONE PEOPLE per their constitutions.
>
> 2. Both recognize the current reality that this ONE CHINA is awaiting RE-Unification.
>
> 3. Currently, it is Mainland China on one side and Taiwan (considered the "Free Region" per the ROC, and the Taiwan Province per the PRC) on the other side.
>
> 4. Both recognize the other side's government as legitimate regard its side.
>
> 5. Both do not recognize the other side's sovereignty. Hence neither PRC nor ROC leader would address their counterpart as "President". They were
> called "Mr Xi and Ma" when they met each other last time.
>
> Reality:
> Given that the PRC is the winning side the Chinese Civil War, PRC is many times larger than its ROC counterpart in terms of territory and population.. In addition, the PRC government is recognized as the sole legitimate representative of this ONE CHINA of ONE PEOPLE by the UN. PRC also imposes this ONE CHINA of ONE PEOPLE as the condition of diplomatic relation.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202303/1288319.shtml

"The two sides of the Taiwan Straits are one family, said a senior mainland Taiwan affairs official
during a meeting with the former chairperson of the Chinese Kuomintang (KMT) party Ma Ying-jeou,
as the two stressed the importance of adhering to the 1992 Consensus on Thursday.

Song Tao, head of both the Taiwan Work Office of the Communist Party of China (CPC) Central
Committee and the Taiwan Affairs Office of the State Council, met with Ma in Wuhan, Hubei Province
as the latter's Chinese mainland visit continues in the Central China city. On February 9, Song met
with the KMT's vice chairperson Andrew Hsia in Beijing.

Song conveyed the greetings of the General Secretary of the CPC Central Committee Xi Jinping to Ma,
welcoming Ma and Taiwan compatriots to visit the mainland for exchanges, and affirming Ma's
contribution to the peaceful development of cross-Straits relations.

"The two sides of the Taiwan Straits are one family," Song said, noting that peace, development,
exchanges and cooperation are the common aspirations of people on both sides of the Straits.

He stressed that both the mainland and Taiwan should adhere to the 1992 Consensus, resolutely
oppose separatist activities and external interference, and jointly safeguard peace and stability across
the Straits and the overall interests of the Chinese nation.

The mainland will always care about, respect and bring benefits to compatriots in Taiwan. The
mainland is ready to work with Taiwan compatriots to keep to the right direction of the development
of cross-Straits relations, promote Chinese-style modernization and realize the great rejuvenation of
the Chinese nation, Song said.

Echoing Song, Ma stressed that people on both sides of the Straits belong to the Chinese nation and
share the same ancestors, and they should work together to promote sustainable peace and prosperity
across the Straits, improve the well-being of Chinese people on both sides and jointly revitalize China
on the basis of the 1992 Consensus."


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