Re: 金灿荣：太吓人了！美国这帮疯子竟然要对中国用核武，我强烈呼应老胡的建议！

On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 1:32:02 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 4:34:25 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr_2AHUcFpI
> As long as the US and its allies believe that they alone have the final say regarding
> good and evil, a kind of absolute power, nuclear war is inevitable.
>
> The US and the Russia have traveled on this road for while and the danger is
> increasing.
>
> "Russian Jet Collides With U.S. Drone Over Black Sea
> The collision forced the U.S. to bring the Reaper drone down in international waters,
> in one of the first direct military confrontations between the two nations’ forces since
> the war in Ukraine began more than a year ago."
> https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-jet-collides-with-u-s-drone-over-black-sea-7ae82d2f?mod=hp_lead_pos8

This is the Russian version:
https://sputniknews.com/20230315/what-was-us-doing-flying-combat-drone-off-russias-coast-1108412875.html
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"The Russian Ministry of Defence said the Reaper was detected near the Crimean Peninsula, which voted to reunite with Russia in 2014 after the Euromaidan coup d'etat in Ukraine.
The drone was flying "in the direction of the state border of the Russian Federation" with its identification transponders turned off, the MoD said, "violating the boundaries of the temporary airspace regime established for the special military operation." It said the unmanned combat air vehicle lost control and crashed after making radical manoeuvres.

"The Russian aircraft did not use on-board weapons, did not come into contact with the unmanned aerial vehicle, and returned safely to their home airfield," the ministry clarified."

The analyst stressed that Ukraine had already launched a series of attacks on the Crimea with both aerial and underwater drones, provided by the US and UK and guided by intelligence gathered by those countries' surveillance aircraft.
"Numerous drone attacks that have been launched against Crimea in the past four weeks, all of which have been brought down through a combination of air defense, and Russia's excellent electronic warfare systems," Sleboda said.. "But there is always a U.S. surveillance drone flying over the Black Sea coordinating these activities at the time."
He said that while Russia still acknowledges that the US is not "actively participating" in the attacks, it is telling the US: "We know what you're doing" and to "knock off the bull faeces."

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On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:12:08 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
> Re: 金灿荣：太吓人了！美国这帮疯子竟然要对中国用核武，我强烈呼应老胡的建议！
>
> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 1:32:02 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
> > On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 4:34:25 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr_2AHUcFpI
> > As long as the US and its allies believe that they alone have the final say regarding
> > good and evil, a kind of absolute power, nuclear war is inevitable.
> >
> > The US and the Russia have traveled on this road for while and the danger is
> > increasing.
> >
> > "Russian Jet Collides With U.S. Drone Over Black Sea
> > The collision forced the U.S. to bring the Reaper drone down in international waters,
> > in one of the first direct military confrontations between the two nations’ forces since
> > the war in Ukraine began more than a year ago."
> > https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-jet-collides-with-u-s-drone-over-black-sea-7ae82d2f?mod=hp_lead_pos8
>
> This is the Russian version:
> https://sputniknews.com/20230315/what-was-us-doing-flying-combat-drone-off-russias-coast-1108412875.html
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> ...
> "The Russian Ministry of Defence said the Reaper was detected near the Crimean Peninsula, which voted to reunite with Russia in 2014 after the Euromaidan coup d'etat in Ukraine.
> The drone was flying "in the direction of the state border of the Russian Federation" with its identification transponders turned off, the MoD said, "violating the boundaries of the temporary airspace regime established for the special military operation." It said the unmanned combat air vehicle lost control and crashed after making radical manoeuvres.
>
> "The Russian aircraft did not use on-board weapons, did not come into contact with the unmanned aerial vehicle, and returned safely to their home airfield," the ministry clarified."
>
> The analyst stressed that Ukraine had already launched a series of attacks on the Crimea with both aerial and underwater drones, provided by the US and UK and guided by intelligence gathered by those countries' surveillance aircraft.
> "Numerous drone attacks that have been launched against Crimea in the past four weeks, all of which have been brought down through a combination of air defense, and Russia's excellent electronic warfare systems," Sleboda said. "But there is always a U.S. surveillance drone flying over the Black Sea coordinating these activities at the time."
> He said that while Russia still acknowledges that the US is not "actively participating" in the attacks, it is telling the US: "We know what you're doing" and to "knock off the bull faeces."
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------

The drone model has a payload of 3700 lb. It could carry a nuclear device theoretically speaking. With its identification transponders turned off, it was difficult to determine what country was operating the drone and for what purpose.

Would Russia allow it to fly any closer to Russian territory IF Ukrainian force was controlling the drone?

On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 12:21:59 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:12:08 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
> > Re: 金灿荣：太吓人了！美国这帮疯子竟然要对中国用核武，我强烈呼应老胡的建议！
> >
> > On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 1:32:02 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
> > > On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 4:34:25 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr_2AHUcFpI
> > > As long as the US and its allies believe that they alone have the final say regarding
> > > good and evil, a kind of absolute power, nuclear war is inevitable.
> > >
> > > The US and the Russia have traveled on this road for while and the danger is
> > > increasing.
> > >
> > > "Russian Jet Collides With U.S. Drone Over Black Sea
> > > The collision forced the U.S. to bring the Reaper drone down in international waters,
> > > in one of the first direct military confrontations between the two nations’ forces since
> > > the war in Ukraine began more than a year ago."
> > > https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-jet-collides-with-u-s-drone-over-black-sea-7ae82d2f?mod=hp_lead_pos8
> >
> > This is the Russian version:
> > https://sputniknews.com/20230315/what-was-us-doing-flying-combat-drone-off-russias-coast-1108412875.html
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ...
> > "The Russian Ministry of Defence said the Reaper was detected near the Crimean Peninsula, which voted to reunite with Russia in 2014 after the Euromaidan coup d'etat in Ukraine.
> > The drone was flying "in the direction of the state border of the Russian Federation" with its identification transponders turned off, the MoD said, "violating the boundaries of the temporary airspace regime established for the special military operation." It said the unmanned combat air vehicle lost control and crashed after making radical manoeuvres.
> >
> > "The Russian aircraft did not use on-board weapons, did not come into contact with the unmanned aerial vehicle, and returned safely to their home airfield," the ministry clarified."
> >
> > The analyst stressed that Ukraine had already launched a series of attacks on the Crimea with both aerial and underwater drones, provided by the US and UK and guided by intelligence gathered by those countries' surveillance aircraft.
> > "Numerous drone attacks that have been launched against Crimea in the past four weeks, all of which have been brought down through a combination of air defense, and Russia's excellent electronic warfare systems," Sleboda said. "But there is always a U.S. surveillance drone flying over the Black Sea coordinating these activities at the time."
> > He said that while Russia still acknowledges that the US is not "actively participating" in the attacks, it is telling the US: "We know what you're doing" and to "knock off the bull faeces."
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The drone model has a payload of 3700 lb. It could carry a nuclear device theoretically speaking. With its identification transponders turned off, it was difficult to determine what country was operating the drone and for what purpose.
>
> Would Russia allow it to fly any closer to Russian territory IF Ukrainian force was controlling the drone?

The drone could easily carry a nuclear device to drop over Russia's airspace. Better not to risk waiting for it to come nearer but to bring it down for safety reason.

On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 6:31:47 AM UTC, stoney wrote:
> On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 12:21:59 AM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:12:08 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
> > > Re: 金灿荣：太吓人了！美国这帮疯子竟然要对中国用核武，我强烈呼应老胡的建议！
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 1:32:02 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 4:34:25 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr_2AHUcFpI
> > > > As long as the US and its allies believe that they alone have the final say regarding
> > > > good and evil, a kind of absolute power, nuclear war is inevitable.
> > > >
> > > > The US and the Russia have traveled on this road for while and the danger is
> > > > increasing.
> > > >
> > > > "Russian Jet Collides With U.S. Drone Over Black Sea
> > > > The collision forced the U.S. to bring the Reaper drone down in international waters,
> > > > in one of the first direct military confrontations between the two nations’ forces since
> > > > the war in Ukraine began more than a year ago."
> > > > https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-jet-collides-with-u-s-drone-over-black-sea-7ae82d2f?mod=hp_lead_pos8
> > >
> > > This is the Russian version:
> > > https://sputniknews.com/20230315/what-was-us-doing-flying-combat-drone-off-russias-coast-1108412875.html
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > ...
> > > "The Russian Ministry of Defence said the Reaper was detected near the Crimean Peninsula, which voted to reunite with Russia in 2014 after the Euromaidan coup d'etat in Ukraine.
> > > The drone was flying "in the direction of the state border of the Russian Federation" with its identification transponders turned off, the MoD said, "violating the boundaries of the temporary airspace regime established for the special military operation." It said the unmanned combat air vehicle lost control and crashed after making radical manoeuvres.
> > >
> > > "The Russian aircraft did not use on-board weapons, did not come into contact with the unmanned aerial vehicle, and returned safely to their home airfield," the ministry clarified."
> > >
> > > The analyst stressed that Ukraine had already launched a series of attacks on the Crimea with both aerial and underwater drones, provided by the US and UK and guided by intelligence gathered by those countries' surveillance aircraft.
> > > "Numerous drone attacks that have been launched against Crimea in the past four weeks, all of which have been brought down through a combination of air defense, and Russia's excellent electronic warfare systems," Sleboda said. "But there is always a U.S. surveillance drone flying over the Black Sea coordinating these activities at the time."
> > > He said that while Russia still acknowledges that the US is not "actively participating" in the attacks, it is telling the US: "We know what you're doing" and to "knock off the bull faeces."
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > The drone model has a payload of 3700 lb. It could carry a nuclear device theoretically speaking. With its identification transponders turned off, it was difficult to determine what country was operating the drone and for what purpose.
> >
> > Would Russia allow it to fly any closer to Russian territory IF Ukrainian force was controlling the drone?

> The drone could easily carry a nuclear device to drop over Russia's airspace. Better not to risk waiting for it to come nearer but to bring it down for safety reason.

Well, the US had release video clip showing Russian dumping fluid and drone damage.
But it does not necessarily contradict Russian claim of no plane to plane contact.
Could fast moving fluid not also cause physical damage?