On Tuesday, August 12, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Neoh KL wrote:
> Can anybody help me with this term?
> dry riser
> I guess so far that it has something to do with firefighting on
> highrise buildings, but exactly what is it?
>
> I have tried the dictionaries, but minewere probably not new enough.
> TIA
> *
> **
> ****************************************
> ne...@pacific.net.sg Singapore
> ****************************************

No idea.

Fri, 18 Mar 2022 11:18:05 -0700 (PDT): bruce bowser
<bruce2bowser@gmail.com> scribeva:

>On Tuesday, August 12, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Neoh KL wrote:
>> Can anybody help me with this term?
>> dry riser
>> I guess so far that it has something to do with firefighting on
>> highrise buildings, but exactly what is it?
>>
>> I have tried the dictionaries, but minewere probably not new enough.

A dry riser is a normally empty pipe that can be externally connected
by firefighters to a pressurised water source. It is a vertical pipe
intended to distribute water to multiple levels of a building or
structure as a component of the fire suppression systems.

Most buildings have a "wet riser" or "wet standpipe" system where the
pipes are kept full of water for manual or automatic fire fighting
operations. Dry risers are used when the water pressure of a building
is insufficient for fire suppression and in unheated buildings where
pipes could freeze. In the UK, dry risers must allow fire engine
access within 18 m of the dry riser inlet box.[1] Dry risers in
occupied buildings must be within a fire-resistant shaft, usually one
of a building's fire escape staircase enclosures. The riser is also
where the gauges, valves, and alarm devices are located.

Depending on regional nomenclature, the term "dry riser" may refer to
a standpipe, intended to provide water to fire hose connections, or a
vertical main pipe in an automatic dry pipe fire sprinkler system. A
dry standpipe has an external fire department connection at ground
level, such as a Storz coupling, through which water can be pumped
from the fire engine pump to the fire hose attachments on each floor.
A dry pipe fire sprinkler system is a network of pipes connected to
fixed sprinklers inside a building, which is full of air until one of
the sprinklers is triggered.

--
Ruud Harmsen, http://rudhar.com

On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 6:18:08 PM UTC, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 12, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Neoh KL wrote:
> > Can anybody help me with this term?
> > dry riser
> > I guess so far that it has something to do with firefighting on
> > highrise buildings, but exactly what is it?
> >
> > I have tried the dictionaries, but minewere probably not new enough.
> > TIA
> > *
> > **
> > ****************************************
> > ne...@pacific.net.sg Singapore
> > ****************************************
> No idea.

Why are you answering 25 year old threads without being able to read them?

On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 12, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Neoh KL wrote:
>> Can anybody help me with this term?
>> dry riser
>> I guess so far that it has something to do with firefighting on
>> highrise buildings, but exactly what is it?
>
> No idea.

He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you really think he
still doesn't know and still cares?

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
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On 2022-03-18 18:32:27 +0000, Richard Heathfield said:

> On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:
>> On Tuesday, August 12, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Neoh KL wrote:
>>> Can anybody help me with this term?
>>> dry riser
>>> I guess so far that it has something to do with firefighting on
>>> highrise buildings, but exactly what is it?
>>
>> No idea.
>
> He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you really think he
> still doesn't know and still cares?

Even if he does, how likely is it that he will find the troll's answer helpful?

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

On 18/03/2022 6:45 pm, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2022-03-18 18:32:27 +0000, Richard Heathfield said:
>
>> On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, August 12, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Neoh KL wrote:
>>>> Can anybody help me with this term?
>>>> dry riser
>>>> I guess so far that it has something to do with firefighting on
>>>> highrise buildings, but exactly what is it?
>>>
>>> No idea.
>>
>> He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you really think
>> he still doesn't know and still cares?
>
> Even if he does, how likely is it that he will find the troll's answer
> helpful?

No idea.

(I hope you find this reply helpful.)

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
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On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:45:42 PM UTC-4, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2022-03-18 18:32:27 +0000, Richard Heathfield said:
> > On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:
a.
> > He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you really think he
> > still doesn't know and still cares?
>
> Even if he does, how likely is it that he will find the troll's answer helpful?
> --
> Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

The xenophobic renegade chimes in yet again.

On 18-Mar-22 18:45, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2022-03-18 18:32:27 +0000, Richard Heathfield said:
>
>> On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, August 12, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Neoh KL wrote:
>>>> Can anybody help me with this term?
>>>> dry riser
>>>> I guess so far that it has something to do with firefighting on
>>>> highrise buildings, but exactly what is it?
>>>
>>> No idea.
>>
>> He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you really think
>> he still doesn't know and still cares?
>
> Even if he does, how likely is it that he will find the troll's answer
> helpful?
>
It _could_ be a term for dried yeast.

--
Sam Plusnet

On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 18:32:27 +0000, Richard Heathfield
<rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:

>On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:
>> On Tuesday, August 12, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Neoh KL wrote:
>>> Can anybody help me with this term?
>>> dry riser
>>> I guess so far that it has something to do with firefighting on
>>> highrise buildings, but exactly what is it?
>>
>> No idea.
>
>He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you really think he
>still doesn't know and still cares?

....or is still alive.

--
The real, original Ken Blake, not some other newcomer

In message <lbv93hp8ohen7ocnoe770671sq0mf762em@4ax.com> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Mar 2022 18:32:27 +0000, Richard Heathfield
> <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:

>>On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, August 12, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Neoh KL wrote:
>>>> Can anybody help me with this term?
>>>> dry riser
>>>> I guess so far that it has something to do with firefighting on
>>>> highrise buildings, but exactly what is it?
>>>
>>> No idea.
>>
>>He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you really think he
>>still doesn't know and still cares?
> ...or is still alive.

Surprising no one, there is a wikiparticle.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_riser>

--
"Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
"Whuh... I think so, Brain, but... but if Charlton Heston doesn't eat
Soylent Green, what will he eat?"

On 19/03/22 06:45, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:45:42 PM UTC-4, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>> On 2022-03-18 18:32:27 +0000, Richard Heathfield said:
>>> On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:
> a.
>>> He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you really think he
>>> still doesn't know and still cares?
>>
>> Even if he does, how likely is it that he will find the troll's answer helpful?
>
> The xenophobic renegade chimes in yet again.

Do you have any evidence that bruce bowser is a foreigner?

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

On 19/03/2022 1:06 am, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 19/03/22 06:45, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:45:42 PM UTC-4, Athel Cornish-Bowden
>> wrote:
>>> On 2022-03-18 18:32:27 +0000, Richard Heathfield said:
>>>> On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:
>> a.
>>>> He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you really think he
>>>> still doesn't know and still cares?
>>>
>>> Even if he does, how likely is it that he will find the troll's
>>> answer helpful?
>>
>> The xenophobic renegade chimes in yet again.
>
> Do you have any evidence that bruce bowser is a foreigner?

He's pretty much bound to be, isn't he? After all, we all are (except
me, of course, for widely varying values of "me").

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

On 2022-03-19 01:06:10 +0000, Peter Moylan said:

> On 19/03/22 06:45, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:45:42 PM UTC-4, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>> On 2022-03-18 18:32:27 +0000, Richard Heathfield said:
>>>> On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:
>> a.
>>>> He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you really think he
>>>> still doesn't know and still cares?
>>>
>>> Even if he does, how likely is it that he will find the troll's answer helpful?
>>
>> The xenophobic renegade chimes in yet again.
>
> Do you have any evidence that bruce bowser is a foreigner?

The "xenophobic" lie started after I referred to Malayalam in a thread
in which Dingbat was active. What is curious, though, is that the nasty
little man referred to Malayalam a few days later in exactly the same
way. As for the "renegade" lie, it apparently refers to my living in a
country different from the country of my birth. If that is a definition
of "renegade" then we have lots of renegades here -- Occam, Paul (the
one in Spain), Skitt (R.I.P.) and Mark spring to mind, but I think that
there are others.

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

In article <j9ljkoFcnkkU1@mid.individual.net>, Athel Cornish-Bowden
<acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
> On 2022-03-19 01:06:10 +0000, Peter Moylan said:

> > On 19/03/22 06:45, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> >> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:45:42 PM UTC-4, Athel Cornish-Bowden
> >> wrote:
> >>> On 2022-03-18 18:32:27 +0000, Richard Heathfield said:
> >>>> On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:
> >> a.
> >>>> He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you really think
> >>>> he still doesn't know and still cares?
> >>>
> >>> Even if he does, how likely is it that he will find the troll's
> >>> answer helpful?
> >>
> >> The xenophobic renegade chimes in yet again.
> >
> > Do you have any evidence that bruce bowser is a foreigner?

> The "xenophobic" lie started after I referred to Malayalam in a thread
> in which Dingbat was active. What is curious, though, is that the nasty
> little man referred to Malayalam a few days later in exactly the same
> way. As for the "renegade" lie, it apparently refers to my living in a
> country different from the country of my birth. If that is a definition
> of "renegade" then we have lots of renegades here -- Occam, Paul (the
> one in Spain), Skitt (R.I.P.) and Mark spring to mind, but I think that
> there are others.

Me: born in Scotland - living in England.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 2022-03-19 09:40:57 +0000, charles said:

> In article <j9ljkoFcnkkU1@mid.individual.net>, Athel Cornish-Bowden
> <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>> On 2022-03-19 01:06:10 +0000, Peter Moylan said:
>
>>> On 19/03/22 06:45, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>>>> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:45:42 PM UTC-4, Athel Cornish-Bowden
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-03-18 18:32:27 +0000, Richard Heathfield said:
>>>>>> On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>> a.
>>>>>> He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you really think
>>>>>> he still doesn't know and still cares?
>>>>>
>>>>> Even if he does, how likely is it that he will find the troll's
>>>>> answer helpful?
>>>>
>>>> The xenophobic renegade chimes in yet again.
>>>
>>> Do you have any evidence that bruce bowser is a foreigner?
>
>> The "xenophobic" lie started after I referred to Malayalam in a thread
>> in which Dingbat was active. What is curious, though, is that the nasty
>> little man referred to Malayalam a few days later in exactly the same
>> way. As for the "renegade" lie, it apparently refers to my living in a
>> country different from the country of my birth. If that is a definition
>> of "renegade" then we have lots of renegades here -- Occam, Paul (the
>> one in Spain), Skitt (R.I.P.) and Mark spring to mind, but I think that
>> there are others.
>
>
> Me: born in Scotland - living in England.

Compensating for Janet.

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

On 19/03/22 20:51, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2022-03-19 09:40:57 +0000, charles said:
>
>> In article <j9ljkoFcnkkU1@mid.individual.net>, Athel
>> Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>>> On 2022-03-19 01:06:10 +0000, Peter Moylan said:
>>
>>>> On 19/03/22 06:45, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:45:42 PM UTC-4, Athel
>>>>> Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-03-18 18:32:27 +0000, Richard Heathfield said:
>>>>>>> On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>>> a.
>>>>>>> He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you
>>>>>>> really think he still doesn't know and still cares?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even if he does, how likely is it that he will find the
>>>>>> troll's answer helpful?
>>>>>
>>>>> The xenophobic renegade chimes in yet again.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any evidence that bruce bowser is a foreigner?
>>
>>> The "xenophobic" lie started after I referred to Malayalam in a
>>> thread in which Dingbat was active. What is curious, though, is
>>> that the nasty little man referred to Malayalam a few days later
>>> in exactly the same way. As for the "renegade" lie, it
>>> apparently refers to my living in a country different from the
>>> country of my birth. If that is a definition of "renegade" then
>>> we have lots of renegades here -- Occam, Paul (the one in
>>> Spain), Skitt (R.I.P.) and Mark spring to mind, but I think that
>>> there are others.
>>
>> Me: born in Scotland - living in England.
>
> Compensating for Janet.

I was born in Victoria, and am now living in New South Wales. No doubt
another renegade has compensated for me, but I don't know who it is.

Several of my great-grandparents moved halfway around the world. That
has to count as a more serious defection.

But I guess moving to a French-speaking country is a more serious matter
in the eyes of a xenophobe.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

In article <t149s5$au5$1@dont-email.me>,
Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
> On 19/03/22 20:51, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> > On 2022-03-19 09:40:57 +0000, charles said:
> >
> >> In article <j9ljkoFcnkkU1@mid.individual.net>, Athel
> >> Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
> >>> On 2022-03-19 01:06:10 +0000, Peter Moylan said:
> >>
> >>>> On 19/03/22 06:45, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> >>>>> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:45:42 PM UTC-4, Athel
> >>>>> Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2022-03-18 18:32:27 +0000, Richard Heathfield said:
> >>>>>>> On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:
> >>>>> a.
> >>>>>>> He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you
> >>>>>>> really think he still doesn't know and still cares?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Even if he does, how likely is it that he will find the
> >>>>>> troll's answer helpful?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The xenophobic renegade chimes in yet again.
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you have any evidence that bruce bowser is a foreigner?
> >>
> >>> The "xenophobic" lie started after I referred to Malayalam in a
> >>> thread in which Dingbat was active. What is curious, though, is
> >>> that the nasty little man referred to Malayalam a few days later
> >>> in exactly the same way. As for the "renegade" lie, it
> >>> apparently refers to my living in a country different from the
> >>> country of my birth. If that is a definition of "renegade" then
> >>> we have lots of renegades here -- Occam, Paul (the one in
> >>> Spain), Skitt (R.I.P.) and Mark spring to mind, but I think that
> >>> there are others.
> >>
> >> Me: born in Scotland - living in England.
> >
> > Compensating for Janet.

> I was born in Victoria, and am now living in New South Wales. No doubt
> another renegade has compensated for me, but I don't know who it is.

> Several of my great-grandparents moved halfway around the world. That
> has to count as a more serious defection.

> But I guess moving to a French-speaking country is a more serious matter
> in the eyes of a xenophobe.

Pourquoi?

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 19/03/2022 10:18 am, charles wrote:
> In article <t149s5$au5$1@dont-email.me>,
> Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
>> On 19/03/22 20:51, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>> On 2022-03-19 09:40:57 +0000, charles said:
>>>
>>>> In article <j9ljkoFcnkkU1@mid.individual.net>, Athel
>>>> Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-03-19 01:06:10 +0000, Peter Moylan said:
>>>>
>>>>>> On 19/03/22 06:45, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>>>>>>> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:45:42 PM UTC-4, Athel
>>>>>>> Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2022-03-18 18:32:27 +0000, Richard Heathfield said:
>>>>>>>>> On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>>>>> a.
>>>>>>>>> He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you
>>>>>>>>> really think he still doesn't know and still cares?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even if he does, how likely is it that he will find the
>>>>>>>> troll's answer helpful?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The xenophobic renegade chimes in yet again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you have any evidence that bruce bowser is a foreigner?
>>>>
>>>>> The "xenophobic" lie started after I referred to Malayalam in a
>>>>> thread in which Dingbat was active. What is curious, though, is
>>>>> that the nasty little man referred to Malayalam a few days later
>>>>> in exactly the same way. As for the "renegade" lie, it
>>>>> apparently refers to my living in a country different from the
>>>>> country of my birth. If that is a definition of "renegade" then
>>>>> we have lots of renegades here -- Occam, Paul (the one in
>>>>> Spain), Skitt (R.I.P.) and Mark spring to mind, but I think that
>>>>> there are others.
>>>>
>>>> Me: born in Scotland - living in England.
>>>
>>> Compensating for Janet.
>
>> I was born in Victoria, and am now living in New South Wales. No doubt
>> another renegade has compensated for me, but I don't know who it is.
>
>> Several of my great-grandparents moved halfway around the world. That
>> has to count as a more serious defection.
>
>> But I guess moving to a French-speaking country is a more serious matter
>> in the eyes of a xenophobe.
>
> Pourquoi?

Parce que the French invaded us in 1066.

Since then:

Anglo-French War (1109–1113) – first conflict between the Capetian
Dynasty and the House of Normandy post-Norman conquest
Anglo-French War (1116–1119) – conflict over English possession of
Normandy
Anglo-French War (1123–1135) – conflict that amalgamated into The
Anarchy
Anglo-French War (1158–1189) – first conflict between the Capetian
Dynasty and the House of Plantagenet
Anglo-French War (1193–1199) – conflict between King Richard the
Lionheart and King Philip Augustus
Anglo-French War (1202–1204) – French invasion of Normandy
Anglo-French War (1213–14) – conflict between King Philip Augustus
and King John of England
Anglo-French War (1215–1217) – the French intervention in the First
Barons War
Anglo-French War (1224) – known as the Poitou War
Anglo-French War (1242–43) – known as the Saintonge War
Anglo-French War (1294–1303) – known as the Guyenne War
Anglo-French War (1324) – known as the War of Saint-Sardos
Anglo-French War (1337–1453) – the Hundred Years' War and its
peripheral conflicts, often broken up into:
Edwardian War (1337–1360)
Caroline War (1369–1389)
Lancastrian War (1415–1453)
Anglo-French War (1496–1498) – part of the Italian War of 1494–1498
Anglo-French War (1512–1514) – part of the War of the League of Cambrai
Anglo-French War (1522–1526) – part of the Italian War of 1521–1526
Anglo-French War (1542–1546) – part of the Italian War of 1542–1546
Anglo-French War (1557–1559) – part of the Italian War of 1551–1559
English expedition to France (1562-1563) - English intervention in
the first of the French Wars of Religion.
Anglo-French War (1627–1629) – the English intervention during the
Huguenot rebellions
Anglo-French War (1666-1667) – minor corollary of the Second
Anglo-Dutch War
Anglo-French War (1689–1697) – part of the Nine Years' War and its
peripheral conflicts
Anglo-French War (1702–1713) – part of the War of the Spanish
Succession and its peripheral conflicts
Anglo-French War (1744–1748) – part of the War of the Austrian
Succession and its peripheral conflicts
Anglo-French War (1746–1763) – also known as the Carnatic Wars
Anglo-French War (1756–1763) – part of the Seven Years' War and its
peripheral conflicts
Anglo-French War (1778–1783) – part of the American Revolutionary
War and its peripheral conflicts
Anglo-French War (1793–1802) – part of the French Revolutionary
Wars and their peripheral conflicts
Anglo-French War (1803–1815) – part of the Napoleonic Wars and
their peripheral conflicts
Anglo-Vichy French War (1940–42) – part of WWII

Une grudge? Nous?

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 5:51:46 AM UTC-4, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2022-03-19 09:40:57 +0000, charles said:
>
> > In article <j9ljko...@mid.individual.net>, Athel Cornish-Bowden
> > <acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
> >> On 2022-03-19 01:06:10 +0000, Peter Moylan said:
> >
> >>> On 19/03/22 06:45, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> >>>> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:45:42 PM UTC-4, Athel Cornish-Bowden
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> On 2022-03-18 18:32:27 +0000, Richard Heathfield said:
> >>>>>> On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:
> >>>> a.
> >>>>>> He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you really think
> >>>>>> he still doesn't know and still cares?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Even if he does, how likely is it that he will find the troll's
> >>>>> answer helpful?
> >>>>
> >>>> The xenophobic renegade chimes in yet again.
> >>>
> >>> Do you have any evidence that bruce bowser is a foreigner?
> >
> >> The "xenophobic" lie started after I referred to Malayalam in a thread
> >> in which Dingbat was active. What is curious, though, is that the nasty
> >> little man referred to Malayalam a few days later in exactly the same
> >> way. As for the "renegade" lie, it apparently refers to my living in a
> >> country different from the country of my birth. If that is a definition
> >> of "renegade" then we have lots of renegades here -- Occam, Paul (the
> >> one in Spain), Skitt (R.I.P.) and Mark spring to mind, but I think that
> >> there are others.
> >
> > Me: born in Scotland - living in England.
>
> Compensating for Janet.

Who hasn't even been on this thread, yet? Du spinnst.

On 19/03/22 21:18, charles wrote:
> In article <t149s5$au5$1@dont-email.me>, Peter Moylan
> <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

>> But I guess moving to a French-speaking country is a more serious
>> matter in the eyes of a xenophobe.
>
> Pourquoi?

Because he's gone over to the cheese-eating surrender monkeys; to the
purveyors of freedom fries. For certain people, insulting the French is
not xenophobia, it's just telling it like it is.

--
Peter Moylan Newcastle, NSW http://www.pmoylan.org

On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 9:06:14 PM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 19/03/22 06:45, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:45:42 PM UTC-4, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> >> On 2022-03-18 18:32:27 +0000, Richard Heathfield said:
> >>> On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:

[What? AC-B's chevrons seem off yet again.]
> > a.
> >>> He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you really think he
> >>> still doesn't know and still cares?
> >> Even if he does, how likely is it that he will find the troll's answer helpful?
> > The xenophobic renegade chimes in yet again.
>
> Do you have any evidence that bruce bowser is a foreigner?

The XR must have been referring to Ruud, not the bowser,
becaise Ruud was the only one who offered an explanation.
And he's already been pounding on Ruud.

Everyone, of course, is a foreigner to almost everyone else.

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:47:25 AM UTC-4, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2022-03-19 01:06:10 +0000, Peter Moylan said:
> > On 19/03/22 06:45, Peter T. Daniels wrote:

> >> The xenophobic renegade chimes in yet again.
> > Do you have any evidence that bruce bowser is a foreigner?
> The "xenophobic" lie started after I referred to Malayalam in a thread

Utterly wrong. (Well, the timing may be accurate, but not the referent.)

> in which Dingbat was active. What is curious, though, is that the nasty
> little man referred to Malayalam a few days later in exactly the same
> way. As for the "renegade" lie, it apparently refers to my living in a
> country different from the country of my birth. If that is a definition
> of "renegade" then we have lots of renegades here -- Occam, Paul (the
> one in Spain), Skitt (R.I.P.) and Mark spring to mind, but I think that
> there are others.

No, he doesn't know the meaning of "renegade." What he did was
renounce his citizenship (or "subject"hood). He wasn't a renegade
for all those years he listed himself as "British, living in France" or
something like that.

And he got upset when I compared him to Anthony Burgess living in
Monaco to avoid the confiscatory taxes of earlier UK administrations.
> --
> Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

Sat, 19 Mar 2022 06:37:20 -0700 (PDT): "Peter T. Daniels"
<grammatim@verizon.net> scribeva:

>On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 9:06:14 PM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
>> On 19/03/22 06:45, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>> > On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:45:42 PM UTC-4, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>> >> On 2022-03-18 18:32:27 +0000, Richard Heathfield said:
>> >>> On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:
>
>[What? AC-B's chevrons seem off yet again.]
>> > a.
>> >>> He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you really think he
>> >>> still doesn't know and still cares?
>> >> Even if he does, how likely is it that he will find the troll's answer helpful?
>> > The xenophobic renegade chimes in yet again.
>>
>> Do you have any evidence that bruce bowser is a foreigner?
>
>The XR must have been referring to Ruud, not the bowser,
>becaise Ruud was the only one who offered an explanation.

I didn't. I quoted Wikipedia, verbatim. And nobody’s noticed.

>And he's already been pounding on Ruud.
>
>Everyone, of course, is a foreigner to almost everyone else.

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 10:56:23 AM UTC-4, Ruud Harmsen wrote:
> Sat, 19 Mar 2022 06:37:20 -0700 (PDT): "Peter T. Daniels"
> <gram...@verizon.net> scribeva:
> >On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 9:06:14 PM UTC-4, Peter Moylan wrote:
> >> On 19/03/22 06:45, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> >> > On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:45:42 PM UTC-4, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> >> >> On 2022-03-18 18:32:27 +0000, Richard Heathfield said:
> >> >>> On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:

> >[What? AC-B's chevrons seem off yet again.]
> >> > a.
> >> >>> He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you really think he
> >> >>> still doesn't know and still cares?
> >> >> Even if he does, how likely is it that he will find the troll's answer helpful?
> >> > The xenophobic renegade chimes in yet again.
> >> Do you have any evidence that bruce bowser is a foreigner?
> >The XR must have been referring to Ruud, not the bowser,
> >becau7se Ruud was the only one who offered an explanation.
>
> I didn't. I quoted Wikipedia, verbatim. And nobody’s noticed.

Probably because you included neither a link nor a credit.

Nonetheless, how is that not offering an explanation?

> >And he's already been pounding on Ruud.
> >Everyone, of course, is a foreigner to almost everyone else.

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 6:45:17 AM UTC-4, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 19/03/2022 10:18 am, charles wrote:
> > In article <t149s5$au5$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > Peter Moylan <pe...@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:
> >> On 19/03/22 20:51, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> >>> On 2022-03-19 09:40:57 +0000, charles said:
> >>>
> >>>> In article <j9ljko...@mid.individual.net>, Athel
> >>>> Cornish-Bowden <acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
> >>>>> On 2022-03-19 01:06:10 +0000, Peter Moylan said:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> On 19/03/22 06:45, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:45:42 PM UTC-4, Athel
> >>>>>>> Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 2022-03-18 18:32:27 +0000, Richard Heathfield said:
> >>>>>>>>> On 18/03/2022 6:18 pm, bruce bowser wrote:
> >>>>>>> a.
> >>>>>>>>> He's had to wait almost 25 years for your reply. Do you
> >>>>>>>>> really think he still doesn't know and still cares?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Even if he does, how likely is it that he will find the
> >>>>>>>> troll's answer helpful?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The xenophobic renegade chimes in yet again.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Do you have any evidence that bruce bowser is a foreigner?
> >>>>
> >>>>> The "xenophobic" lie started after I referred to Malayalam in a
> >>>>> thread in which Dingbat was active. What is curious, though, is
> >>>>> that the nasty little man referred to Malayalam a few days later
> >>>>> in exactly the same way. As for the "renegade" lie, it
> >>>>> apparently refers to my living in a country different from the
> >>>>> country of my birth. If that is a definition of "renegade" then
> >>>>> we have lots of renegades here -- Occam, Paul (the one in
> >>>>> Spain), Skitt (R.I.P.) and Mark spring to mind, but I think that
> >>>>> there are others.
> >>>>
> >>>> Me: born in Scotland - living in England.
> >>>
> >>> Compensating for Janet.
> >
> >> I was born in Victoria, and am now living in New South Wales. No doubt
> >> another renegade has compensated for me, but I don't know who it is.
> >
> >> Several of my great-grandparents moved halfway around the world. That
> >> has to count as a more serious defection.
> >
> >> But I guess moving to a French-speaking country is a more serious matter
> >> in the eyes of a xenophobe.
> >
> > Pourquoi?
> Parce que the French invaded us in 1066.
>
> Since then:
>
> Anglo-French War (1109–1113) – first conflict between the Capetian
> Dynasty and the House of Normandy post-Norman conquest
> Anglo-French War (1116–1119) – conflict over English possession of
> Normandy
> Anglo-French War (1123–1135) – conflict that amalgamated into The
> Anarchy
> Anglo-French War (1158–1189) – first conflict between the Capetian

Britain invaded Ireland in 1169. A year before the death of Thomas à Becket?