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by: bil...@shaw.ca - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 23:21 UTC

On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 5:02:09 AM UTC-7, CDB wrote:
> On 3/13/2022 12:22 PM, Paul Epstein wrote:
> > Paul Epstein wrote:
> >> Mack A. Damia wrote:
>
> [Dershowitz and Finkelstein]
> >>>> "...their rancor to each other started even earlier than [the
> >>>> publication of Dershowitz's book, The Case for Israel]."
>
> >>> Do you think his charges of intellectual dishonesty came out of
> >>> nowhere? He had a fairly long-standing dislike of Dershowitz.
> >>> Probably no way to find evidence of it, but a reasonable person
> >>> doesn't come out with bogus charges of dishonesty for no reason.
> >>> It may have been pure jealousy.
>
> >> No, it didn't "come out of nowhere".
>
> >> It came out of the fact of encountering a strong Jewish supporter
> >> of Israel. There has always been range and venorm between strong
> >> Jewish supporters of Israel, and strong Jewish opponents of Israel.
> >> If it was someone else opposing Finkelstein with Dershowitz's
> >> opinion, the result would have been the same. It started as a
> >> political disagreement -- that's what I've been trying to tell
> >> you.
> > "range" -> "rage"
>
> Of course; but how about "venorm"? I was thinking "poisonous rage far
> beyond what we are used to".

Venormous rage, you mean?

bill

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by: Sam Plusnet - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 00:30 UTC

On 14-Mar-22 23:21, bil...@shaw.ca wrote:
> On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 5:02:09 AM UTC-7, CDB wrote:

>> Of course; but how about "venorm"? I was thinking "poisonous rage far
>> beyond what we are used to".
>
> Venormous rage, you mean?
>

Why did I read this and think "D. Trump"?

--
Sam Plusnet

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by: CDB - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 11:57 UTC

On 3/14/2022 8:30 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> bil...@shaw.ca wrote:
>> CDB wrote:

>>> Of course; but how about "venorm"? I was thinking "poisonous rage
>>> far beyond what we are used to".

>> Venormous rage, you mean?

Quite beyond ve norm, innit.

> Why did I read this and think "D. Trump"?

D. trump of doom.

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by: bil...@shaw.ca - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 20:25 UTC

On Tuesday, March 15, 2022 at 4:57:37 AM UTC-7, CDB wrote:
> On 3/14/2022 8:30 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> > bil...@shaw.ca wrote:
> >> CDB wrote:
>
> >>> Of course; but how about "venorm"? I was thinking "poisonous rage
> >>> far beyond what we are used to".
>
> >> Venormous rage, you mean?
> Quite beyond ve norm, innit.
> > Why did I read this and think "D. Trump"?
> D. trump of doom.

"Trumps of Doom" is one of the myriad sequels in a Roger Zelazny
fantasy series I read about half a century ago. I enjoyed it at the time,
but when I decided a few years ago I'd reread the series, I gave up
about two pages into the first book. It was hopelessly juvenile
and surprisingly sexist.

bill

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by: CDB - Wed, 16 Mar 2022 11:51 UTC

On 3/15/2022 4:25 PM, bil...@shaw.ca wrote:
> CDB wrote:
>> Sam Plusnet wrote:
>>> bil...@shaw.ca wrote:
>>>> CDB wrote:

>>>>> Of course; but how about "venorm"? I was thinking "poisonous
>>>>> rage far beyond what we are used to".

>>>> Venormous rage, you mean?
>> Quite beyond ve norm, innit.
>>> Why did I read this and think "D. Trump"?
>> D. trump of doom.

> "Trumps of Doom" is one of the myriad sequels in a Roger Zelazny
> fantasy series I read about half a century ago. I enjoyed it at the
> time, but when I decided a few years ago I'd reread the series, I
> gave up about two pages into the first book. It was hopelessly
> juvenile and surprisingly sexist.

I was pretty juvenile then too. Those were the days.

Lend money to a bad debtor and he will hate you.

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Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Paul Epstein
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Stefan Ram
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Quinn C
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Tony Cooper
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Paul Epstein
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Mack A. Damia
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Paul Epstein
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Mack A. Damia
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Mack A. Damia
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Paul Epstein
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Mack A. Damia
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Paul Epstein
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Paul Epstein
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Mack A. Damia
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Paul Epstein
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Mack A. Damia
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Paul Epstein
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Mack A. Damia
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Paul Epstein
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Mack A. Damia
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Paul Epstein
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Paul Epstein
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	CDB
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	bil...@shaw.ca
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Sam Plusnet
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	bil...@shaw.ca
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	CDB
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	bil...@shaw.ca
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	CDB
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	Mack A. Damia
Re: Is this an example of an "ad hominem" attack?	bruce bowser