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 by: hongy...@gmail.com - Wed, 9 Mar 2022 03:45 UTC

I read the following description on page 521 of this book [1]:

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Indeed, we will see that the same theory can describe a phenomenon such as polarization in terms of a Berry phase and topological classification of the electronic structure in terms of Chern numbers.
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The above statement for two consecutive times using the same phrase "in terms of". Is this a good style?

[1] https://hk1lib.org/book/6037268/3f7c7b

Regards,
HZ

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 by: Snidely - Wed, 9 Mar 2022 09:03 UTC

Thus spake hongy...@gmail.com:
> I read the following description on page 521 of this book [1]:
>
> ```
> Indeed, we will see that the same theory can describe a phenomenon such as
> polarization in terms of a Berry phase and topological classification of the
> electronic structure in terms of Chern numbers. ``` The above statement for
> two consecutive times using the same phrase "in terms of". Is this a good
> style?

Why wouldn't it be? What would you substitute for either occurence
that would be better?

> [1] https://hk1lib.org/book/6037268/3f7c7b
>
> Regards,
> HZ

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 by: CDB - Wed, 9 Mar 2022 12:43 UTC

On 3/8/2022 10:45 PM, hongy...@gmail.com wrote:

> I read the following description on page 521 of this book [1]:

> ``` Indeed, we will see that the same theory can describe a
> phenomenon such as polarization in terms of a Berry phase and
> topological classification of the electronic structure in terms of
> Chern numbers. ``` The above statement for two consecutive times
> using the same phrase "in terms of". Is this a good style?

> [1] https://hk1lib.org/book/6037268/3f7c7b

Yes. There is nothing wrong with parallel constructions.

I would have written "phenomena", though, since the writer mentions two
phenomena, linked by "and". "Phenomenon" would have been correct if the
conjunction had been "or".

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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Wed, 9 Mar 2022 16:44 UTC

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 10:45:58 PM UTC-5, hongy...@gmail.com wrote:
> I read the following description on page 521 of this book [1]:
>
> ```
> Indeed, we will see that the same theory can describe a phenomenon such as polarization in terms of a Berry phase and topological classification of the electronic structure in terms of Chern numbers.
> ```
> The above statement for two consecutive times using the same phrase "in terms of". Is this a good style?
>
> [1] https://hk1lib.org/book/6037268/3f7c7b

It's a parallel construction with "gapping":

we will see that the same theory
--can describe
------a phenomenon such as polarization
----------in terms of a Berry phase
--and (can describe)
-------topological classification of the electronic structure
-----------in terms of Chern numbers.

"Gapping" means leaving a "gap" in a sentence by omitting
an exact repetition of a parallel structure.

Your ESL textbook probably uses a different term for doing it.

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 by: hongy...@gmail.com - Thu, 10 Mar 2022 07:03 UTC

On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 12:44:12 AM UTC+8, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 10:45:58 PM UTC-5, hongy...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I read the following description on page 521 of this book [1]:
> >
> > ```
> > Indeed, we will see that the same theory can describe a phenomenon such as polarization in terms of a Berry phase and topological classification of the electronic structure in terms of Chern numbers.
> > ```
> > The above statement for two consecutive times using the same phrase "in terms of". Is this a good style?
> >
> > [1] https://hk1lib.org/book/6037268/3f7c7b
> It's a parallel construction with "gapping":
> we will see that the same theory
> --can describe
> ------a phenomenon such as polarization
> ----------in terms of a Berry phase
> --and (can describe)
> -------topological classification of the electronic structure
> -----------in terms of Chern numbers.

Thank you for your sentence breaking. But I would rather break it into the following:

we will see that the same theory
can describe
--a phenomenon such as polarization
----in terms of a Berry phase
--and
--topological classification of the electronic structure
----in terms of Chern numbers.

>
> "Gapping" means leaving a "gap" in a sentence by omitting
> an exact repetition of a parallel structure.
>
> Your ESL textbook probably uses a different term for doing it.

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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Thu, 10 Mar 2022 13:57 UTC

On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 2:03:57 AM UTC-5, hongy...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 12:44:12 AM UTC+8, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 10:45:58 PM UTC-5, hongy...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > I read the following description on page 521 of this book [1]:
> > >
> > > ```
> > > Indeed, we will see that the same theory can describe a phenomenon such as polarization in terms of a Berry phase and topological classification of the electronic structure in terms of Chern numbers.
> > > ```
> > > The above statement for two consecutive times using the same phrase "in terms of". Is this a good style?
> > >
> > > [1] https://hk1lib.org/book/6037268/3f7c7b
> > It's a parallel construction with "gapping":
> > we will see that the same theory
> > --can describe
> > ------a phenomenon such as polarization
> > ----------in terms of a Berry phase
> > --and (can describe)
> > -------topological classification of the electronic structure
> > -----------in terms of Chern numbers.
>
> Thank you for your sentence breaking. But I would rather break it into the following:
>
> we will see that the same theory
> can describe
> --a phenomenon such as polarization
> ----in terms of a Berry phase
> --and
> --topological classification of the electronic structure
> ----in terms of Chern numbers.

Yes. Your structure is exactly the same as my structure.

> > "Gapping" means leaving a "gap" in a sentence by omitting
> > an exact repetition of a parallel structure.
> >
> > Your ESL textbook probably uses a different term for doing it.


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