I bought a Samsung gas stove last December. The stove
had a one year warranty. After 7 months one of the
burners would not spark (light). As the stove was
under warranty the spark unit was replaced. I asked
the service man how much the sparker unit would cost.
He said $65. I then asked how much it would have cost to
replace it out of warranty: he said $320. The stove
cost $750, so replacing the single sparking unit
would cost almost half the cost of the stove.

My previous stove (with pilot light) lasted over
60 years.

Replacing the sparking unit requires removing dozens
of sheet metal screws holding the top panel around
the burners, two side panels, and the panel in
front around the knobs.

I would never buy another Samsung appliance and
I bought a battery operated hand sparking unit
to replace matches in case another sparking
unit fails after this December.

On 08/24/2021 08:48 AM, root wrote:
> I bought a Samsung gas stove last December. The stove
> had a one year warranty. After 7 months one of the
> burners would not spark (light). As the stove was
> under warranty the spark unit was replaced. I asked
> the service man how much the sparker unit would cost.
> He said $65. I then asked how much it would have cost to
> replace it out of warranty: he said $320. The stove
> cost $750, so replacing the single sparking unit
> would cost almost half the cost of the stove.
>
> My previous stove (with pilot light) lasted over
> 60 years.
>
> Replacing the sparking unit requires removing dozens
> of sheet metal screws holding the top panel around
> the burners, two side panels, and the panel in
> front around the knobs.
>
> I would never buy another Samsung appliance and
> I bought a battery operated hand sparking unit
> to replace matches in case another sparking
> unit fails after this December.

The oven is completely controlled by a touch-panel. If that fails there
doesn't seem to be a workaround :-(

--
Cheers, Bev
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 10:09:02 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 08/24/2021 08:48 AM, root wrote:
>> I bought a Samsung gas stove last December. The stove
>> had a one year warranty. After 7 months one of the
>> burners would not spark (light). As the stove was
>> under warranty the spark unit was replaced. I asked
>> the service man how much the sparker unit would cost.
>> He said $65. I then asked how much it would have cost to
>> replace it out of warranty: he said $320. The stove
>> cost $750, so replacing the single sparking unit
>> would cost almost half the cost of the stove.
>>
>> My previous stove (with pilot light) lasted over
>> 60 years.
>>
>> Replacing the sparking unit requires removing dozens
>> of sheet metal screws holding the top panel around
>> the burners, two side panels, and the panel in
>> front around the knobs.
>>
>> I would never buy another Samsung appliance and
>> I bought a battery operated hand sparking unit
>> to replace matches in case another sparking
>> unit fails after this December.
>
>The oven is completely controlled by a touch-panel. If that fails there
>doesn't seem to be a workaround :-(

We have a Jenn-air electric double wall oven. It is odd, in that the
top oven has touch controls and a digital display, but the bottom oven
has mechanical dial-type controls. Guess which one failed? And I can't
even get replacement parts for the digital controls from the
manufacturer. The top oven still turns on and can be set for 350F or
lower, but no higher temperature (the default temp is 350F, the
up-temp button failed but the down-temp button still kind-of works).
Still, I guess after over 20 years, something was due to break.

I replaced the spark module on our Jenn-air gas cooktop myself a few
years ago. Part was $27 from repairclinic.com.

Dennis (evil)
--
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my revenue stream has its own cash flow. -George Carlin

On 8/25/2021 11:15 AM, Dennis wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 10:09:02 -0700, The Real Bev
> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 08/24/2021 08:48 AM, root wrote:
>>> I bought a Samsung gas stove last December. The stove
>>> had a one year warranty. After 7 months one of the
>>> burners would not spark (light). As the stove was
>>> under warranty the spark unit was replaced. I asked
>>> the service man how much the sparker unit would cost.
>>> He said $65. I then asked how much it would have cost to
>>> replace it out of warranty: he said $320. The stove
>>> cost $750, so replacing the single sparking unit
>>> would cost almost half the cost of the stove.
>>>
>>> My previous stove (with pilot light) lasted over
>>> 60 years.
>>>
>>> Replacing the sparking unit requires removing dozens
>>> of sheet metal screws holding the top panel around
>>> the burners, two side panels, and the panel in
>>> front around the knobs.
>>>
>>> I would never buy another Samsung appliance and
>>> I bought a battery operated hand sparking unit
>>> to replace matches in case another sparking
>>> unit fails after this December.
>>
>> The oven is completely controlled by a touch-panel. If that fails there
>> doesn't seem to be a workaround :-(
>
> We have a Jenn-air electric double wall oven. It is odd, in that the
> top oven has touch controls and a digital display, but the bottom oven
> has mechanical dial-type controls. Guess which one failed? And I can't
> even get replacement parts for the digital controls from the
> manufacturer. The top oven still turns on and can be set for 350F or
> lower, but no higher temperature (the default temp is 350F, the
> up-temp button failed but the down-temp button still kind-of works).
> Still, I guess after over 20 years, something was due to break.
>
> I replaced the spark module on our Jenn-air gas cooktop myself a few
> years ago. Part was $27 from repairclinic.com.
>
> Dennis (evil)
>

I have in the past repaired stove problems related to the "touch" panel,
related to broken plastic parts under the plastic control panel that
breaks, so that presses no longer apply pressure to the switch that the
plastic part is supposed to push. A little flexible could work to
re-attach the plastic pusher part to its frame to hold it in place with
enough flexibility to work properly.

This usually seemed to be related to the flat plastic panel that has the
temp up function being used so much that it cracks, allowing too much
motion to be applied to the flexible plastic part underneath, that then
breaks.

On 8/25/2021 2:41 PM, Bob F wrote:
> On 8/25/2021 11:15 AM, Dennis wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 10:09:02 -0700, The Real Bev
>> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/24/2021 08:48 AM, root wrote:
>>>> I bought a Samsung gas stove last December. The stove
>>>> had a one year warranty. After 7 months one of the
>>>> burners would not spark (light). As the stove was
>>>> under warranty the spark unit was replaced. I asked
>>>> the service man how much the sparker unit would cost.
>>>> He said $65. I then asked how much it would have cost to
>>>> replace it out of warranty: he said $320. The stove
>>>> cost $750, so replacing the single sparking unit
>>>> would cost almost half the cost of the stove.
>>>>
>>>> My previous stove (with pilot light) lasted over
>>>> 60 years.
>>>>
>>>> Replacing the sparking unit requires removing dozens
>>>> of sheet metal screws holding the top panel around
>>>> the burners, two side panels, and the panel in
>>>> front around the knobs.
>>>>
>>>> I would never buy another Samsung appliance and
>>>> I bought a battery operated hand sparking unit
>>>> to replace matches in case another sparking
>>>> unit fails after this December.
>>>
>>> The oven is completely controlled by a touch-panel.  If that fails there
>>> doesn't seem to be a workaround :-(
>>
>> We have a Jenn-air electric double wall oven. It is odd, in that the
>> top oven has touch controls and a digital display, but the bottom oven
>> has mechanical dial-type controls. Guess which one failed? And I can't
>> even get replacement parts for the digital controls from the
>> manufacturer. The top oven still turns on and can be set for 350F or
>> lower, but no higher temperature (the default temp is 350F, the
>> up-temp button failed but the down-temp button still kind-of works).
>> Still, I guess after over 20 years, something was due to break.
>>
>> I replaced the spark module on our Jenn-air gas cooktop myself a few
>> years ago. Part was $27 from repairclinic.com.
>>
>> Dennis (evil)
>>
>
> I have in the past repaired stove problems related to the "touch" panel,
> related to broken plastic parts under the plastic control panel that
> breaks, so that presses no longer apply pressure to the switch that the
> plastic part is supposed to push. A little flexible could work to
> re-attach the plastic pusher part to its frame to hold it in place with
> enough flexibility to work properly.
>
> This usually seemed to be related to the flat plastic panel that has the
> temp up function being used so much that it cracks, allowing too much
> motion to be applied to the flexible plastic part underneath, that then
> breaks.

Oops. Forgot to mention that I used a piece of aluminum duct tape on the
back of the flat panel to reinforce the cracked plastic panel.

On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 8:48:55 AM UTC-7, root wrote:
> I bought a Samsung gas stove last December. The stove
> had a one year warranty. After 7 months one of the
> burners would not spark (light). As the stove was
> under warranty the spark unit was replaced. I asked
> the service man how much the sparker unit would cost.
> He said $65. I then asked how much it would have cost to
> replace it out of warranty: he said $320. The stove
> cost $750, so replacing the single sparking unit
> would cost almost half the cost of the stove.
>
> My previous stove (with pilot light) lasted over
> 60 years.
>
> Replacing the sparking unit requires removing dozens
> of sheet metal screws holding the top panel around
> the burners, two side panels, and the panel in
> front around the knobs.
>
> I would never buy another Samsung appliance and
> I bought a battery operated hand sparking unit
> to replace matches in case another sparking
> unit fails after this December.

https://food.ndtv.com/food-drinks/planning-to-buy-gas-stove-herere-5-best-options-that-ensure-durability-2507088

On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 at 8:48:55 AM UTC-7, root wrote:
> I bought a Samsung gas stove last December. The stove
> had a one year warranty. After 7 months one of the
> burners would not spark (light). As the stove was
> under warranty the spark unit was replaced. I asked
> the service man how much the sparker unit would cost.
> He said $65. I then asked how much it would have cost to
> replace it out of warranty: he said $320. The stove
> cost $750, so replacing the single sparking unit
> would cost almost half the cost of the stove.
>
> My previous stove (with pilot light) lasted over
> 60 years.
>
> Replacing the sparking unit requires removing dozens
> of sheet metal screws holding the top panel around
> the burners, two side panels, and the panel in
> front around the knobs.
>
> I would never buy another Samsung appliance and
> I bought a battery operated hand sparking unit
> to replace matches in case another sparking
> unit fails after this December.

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/appliances/g36884953/best-gas-cooktop/