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* of whenhongy...@gmail.com
+- Re: of whenJerry Friedman
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 by: hongy...@gmail.com - Thu, 3 Mar 2022 14:23 UTC

See the following sentence here [1]:

```
In addition, it is edifying to place all the developments in pedagogical and historical perspective. This includes derivation of Berry phase that is more pedagogical than in the first edition, Dirac’s derivation of spin-orbit interaction, Tamm and Shockley surface states, relation to the quantum Hall effect, and the way that the topological arguments finally provide the answer to the decades old question of when it is possible to construct localized Wannier functions and when it is not possible.
```

In the last sentence above, is the "of when" a good style?

[1] http://www.cambridgeblog.org/2020/10/why-do-we-need-a-second-edition-an-authors-explanation/#_edn1

Regards,
HZ

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 by: Jerry Friedman - Thu, 3 Mar 2022 15:47 UTC

On Thursday, March 3, 2022 at 7:24:04 AM UTC-7, hongy...@gmail.com wrote:
> See the following sentence here [1]:
>
> ```
> In addition, it is edifying to place all the developments in pedagogical and historical perspective. This includes derivation of Berry phase that is more pedagogical than in the first edition, Dirac’s derivation of spin-orbit interaction, Tamm and Shockley surface states, relation to the quantum Hall effect, and the way that the topological arguments finally provide the answer to the decades old question of when it is possible to construct localized Wannier functions and when it is not possible.
> ```
>
> In the last sentence above, is the "of when" a good style?
>
> [1] http://www.cambridgeblog.org/2020/10/why-do-we-need-a-second-edition-an-authors-explanation/#_edn1

It's fine in my opinion. (I think Fowler suggested leaving out the "of". Somebody
here might know that.) However, there's more wrong with those two sentences
than I'm willing to deal with right now. I certainly hope the textbook is written
better than this blog post.

--
Jerry Friedman

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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Thu, 3 Mar 2022 17:54 UTC

On Thursday, March 3, 2022 at 9:24:04 AM UTC-5, hongy...@gmail.com wrote:

> See the following sentence here [1]:
>
> ```
> In addition, it is edifying to place all the developments in pedagogical and historical perspective. This includes derivation of Berry phase that is more pedagogical than in the first edition, Dirac’s derivation of spin-orbit interaction, Tamm and Shockley surface states, relation to the quantum Hall effect, and the way that the topological arguments finally provide the answer to the decades old question of when it is possible to construct localized Wannier functions and when it is not possible.
> ```
>
> In the last sentence above, is the "of when" a good style?

"question as to when" seems preferable. Fowler's [nothing] mentioned by Jerry is
much more likely to be British.

> [1] http://www.cambridgeblog.org/2020/10/why-do-we-need-a-second-edition-an-authors-explanation/#_edn1


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