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From: jbee...@invalid.net.invalid (Joy Beeson)
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by: Joy Beeson - Sun, 27 Feb 2022 02:00 UTC

https://timesuniononline.com/Content/Top-Stories-Click-for-more-top-stories/Top-Stories/Article/-span-style-font-weight-bold-Lincotek-span-Acquires-Majority-Stake-In-Danco-Medical/82/353/139471?s=1

"The scope of the transaction comprises all the service activities
focused on metal surface finishing for the medical market and includes
the ISO-13485 certified facility in Warsaw, according to a news
release from Danco Medical."

That isn't the clearest sentence in the world, but it isn't often that
one sees "comprise" used to mean "comprise".

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at centurylink dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

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From: rjh...@cpax.org.uk (Richard Heathfield)
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Subject: Re: Seen in the wild
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 02:18:49 +0000
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by: Richard Heathfield - Sun, 27 Feb 2022 02:18 UTC

On 27/02/2022 2:00 am, Joy Beeson wrote:
>
> https://timesuniononline.com/Content/Top-Stories-Click-for-more-top-stories/Top-Stories/Article/-span-style-font-weight-bold-Lincotek-span-Acquires-Majority-Stake-In-Danco-Medical/82/353/139471?s=1
>
> "The scope of the transaction comprises

On first reading, this word caught my attention right away...

> all

....and this one came as a surprise. Could Joy have spotted a *correct*
usage of `comprise'?

> the service activities
> focused on metal surface finishing for the medical market and includes
> the ISO-13485 certified facility in Warsaw, according to a news
> release from Danco Medical."
>
> That isn't the clearest sentence in the world, but it isn't often that
> one sees "comprise" used to mean "comprise".

Prediction confirmed. Well well well...

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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From: bounc...@thiswontwork.wolff.co.uk (Paul Wolff)
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by: Paul Wolff - Sun, 27 Feb 2022 09:14 UTC

On Sun, 27 Feb 2022, at 02:18:49, Richard Heathfield posted:
>On 27/02/2022 2:00 am, Joy Beeson wrote:
>>
>>https://timesuniononline.com/Content/Top-Stories-Click-for-more-top-sto
>>ries/Top-Stories/Article/-span-style-font-weight-bold-Lincotek-span-Acq
>>uires-Majority-Stake-In-Danco-Medical/82/353/139471?s=1
>> "The scope of the transaction comprises
>
>On first reading, this word caught my attention right away...
>
>> all
>
>...and this one came as a surprise. Could Joy have spotted a *correct*
>usage of `comprise'?
>
>> the service activities
>> focused on metal surface finishing for the medical market and includes
>> the ISO-13485 certified facility in Warsaw, according to a news
>> release from Danco Medical."
>> That isn't the clearest sentence in the world, but it isn't often
>>that
>> one sees "comprise" used to mean "comprise".
>
>Prediction confirmed. Well well well...
>
"the scope comprises [X] and includes [Y]" came as a bit of a shock. Why
two different verbs in tandem? Elegant variation? I'd have had
"comprises [X] including [Y}" if [Y] is a member of the class [X], or
"comprises [X] and [Y] if it isn't.
--
Paul

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From: rjh...@cpax.org.uk (Richard Heathfield)
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by: Richard Heathfield - Sun, 27 Feb 2022 10:00 UTC

On 27/02/2022 9:14 am, Paul Wolff wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022, at 02:18:49, Richard Heathfield posted:
>> On 27/02/2022 2:00 am, Joy Beeson wrote:
>>>
>>> https://timesuniononline.com/Content/Top-Stories-Click-for-more-top-sto
>>> ries/Top-Stories/Article/-span-style-font-weight-bold-Lincotek-span-Acq
>>> uires-Majority-Stake-In-Danco-Medical/82/353/139471?s=1
>>> "The scope of the transaction comprises
>>
>> On first reading, this word caught my attention right away...
>>
>>> all
>>
>> ...and this one came as a surprise. Could Joy have spotted a *correct*
>> usage of `comprise'?
>>
>>> the service activities
>>> focused on metal surface finishing for the medical market and includes
>>> the ISO-13485 certified facility in Warsaw, according to a news
>>> release from Danco Medical."
>>> That isn't the clearest sentence in the world, but it isn't often that
>>> one sees "comprise" used to mean "comprise".
>>
>> Prediction confirmed. Well well well...
>>
> "the scope comprises [X] and includes [Y]" came as a bit of a shock. Why
> two different verbs in tandem? Elegant variation? I'd have had
> "comprises [X] including [Y}" if [Y] is a member of the class [X], or
> "comprises [X] and [Y] if it isn't.

Let us not be too harsh on the author, who certainly started well.

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
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From: quias...@yahoo.com (Jack)
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by: Jack - Sun, 27 Feb 2022 11:10 UTC

On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 09:14:53 +0000, Paul Wolff
<bounceme@thiswontwork.wolff.co.uk> wrote:
>On Sun, 27 Feb 2022, at 02:18:49, Richard Heathfield posted:
>>On 27/02/2022 2:00 am, Joy Beeson wrote:
>>>
>>>https://timesuniononline.com/Content/Top-Stories-Click-for-more-top-sto
>>>ries/Top-Stories/Article/-span-style-font-weight-bold-Lincotek-span-Acq
>>>uires-Majority-Stake-In-Danco-Medical/82/353/139471?s=1
>>> "The scope of the transaction comprises
>>
>>On first reading, this word caught my attention right away...
>>
>>> all
>>
>>...and this one came as a surprise. Could Joy have spotted a *correct*
>>usage of `comprise'?
>>
>>> the service activities
>>> focused on metal surface finishing for the medical market and includes
>>> the ISO-13485 certified facility in Warsaw, according to a news
>>> release from Danco Medical."
>>> That isn't the clearest sentence in the world, but it isn't often
>>>that
>>> one sees "comprise" used to mean "comprise".
>>
>>Prediction confirmed. Well well well...
>>
>"the scope comprises [X] and includes [Y]" came as a bit of a shock. Why
>two different verbs in tandem? Elegant variation? I'd have had
>"comprises [X] including [Y}" if [Y] is a member of the class [X], or
>"comprises [X] and [Y] if it isn't.
The objects are of different types - comprises all activities....
incudes ... a facility.
--
Jack

Subject	Author
Seen in the wild	Joy Beeson
Re: Seen in the wild	Richard Heathfield
Re: Seen in the wild	Paul Wolff
Re: Seen in the wild	Richard Heathfield
Re: Seen in the wild	Jack