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 by: ltlee1 - Mon, 14 Nov 2022 20:47 UTC

On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 5:18:21 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:
> https://www.chinatimes.com/opinion/20221111004142-262104?chdtv
> "9月底,在《紐約時報》主導的「雅典民主論壇」(Athens Democracy Forum 2022)上,薩克斯又成了全場矚目的焦點。他火力全開,批評美國是一個白人主導、充滿種族主義的國家。過去是蓄奴、執行種族滅絕的國家,為了延續白人文化而屠殺印地安原住民。而到今天,美國仍是老樣子。對內號稱實行民主,在國外則成為無情的帝國主義者。19世紀前世界上最殘暴的國家是英國,自1950年以來,世界上最殘暴的國家就是美國。
> ...
> 薩克斯在發言及回答提問時反覆列舉,英美過去在全球犯下種種惡行以鞏固其霸權和既得利益,作為現代化進程的領跑者,他們還有多少道德憑藉為後來者學習?而英美的國內政治走向極端、民粹主義,也呼應了薩克斯對亞里士多德的關注。「雅典民主論壇」的東西對談主題之一原先是「蘇格拉底與儒家」,因為中國儒家與希臘雅典文化有許多相似之處。但正是由於薩克斯的建議改為「亞里士多德與儒家」,背後就是希望引起大家審視亞理士多德提出的民主、投票權概念,終究會演變成暴民政治的危險。
> 另一方面,所謂投票民主也愈來愈成為財閥專制的代名詞,「一人一票」也愈來愈像是「一元一票」。兩位美國學者吉倫斯(Martin Gilens)與佩奇(Benjamin Page)在《民主在美國?》書中,證據確鑿地推論經濟菁英階層和利益團體對政府政策有巨大影響力,而普通美國人幾乎全無力量。新加坡大學教授馬凱碩(Kishore Mahbubani)更在《亞洲的21世紀》書中,直言美國已遠離民主而走向財閥統治,成為「1%所有,1%所治,1%所享」的國家。很多例證可以說明選舉制度嚴重被金錢所腐蝕,例如一個聯邦參議員在6年任期中,75%的時間不是用來傾聽民眾心聲、解決民間疾苦,而是用來籌款。他平均每天要籌款4.5萬美元,否則幾乎不可能爭取連任。
> 確實,如果是真正的人民做主,怎麼會將龐大的資源用於國外的軍事行動,而不用於國內的基礎建設翻新?「民主發展」分論壇席上來自土耳其、英國、非洲和突尼西亞的4位講者,也都不約而同地發言質問,民主制度為什麼會失效了?投票選舉制度真的比其他制度更能夠有效挑選出具有領導力並且苦民所苦的政治領袖?薩克斯教授在「雅典民主論壇」的各種反問,像不悅耳的烏鴉,但確實值得深思。(作者為香港中文大學金融系副教授)"

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202211/1279456.shtml
Among other issues, Xi raised the issue of democracy with Biden during their G20 meeting:

"Xi pointed out the so-called "democracy versus authoritarianism" narrative is not the defining feature of today's world, still less does it represent the trend of the times.

"Just as the US has American-style democracy, China has Chinese-style democracy. Both fit their respective national conditions", Xi said, adding that the whole-process people's democracy practiced in China is based on the country's reality, history and culture and it reflects people's will.

"We take great pride in it. No country has a perfect democratic system, and there is always a need for development and improvement. The specific differences between the two sides can be worked out through discussion, but only on the precondition of equality," Xi added."


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