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* Re: both study and researchAthel Cornish-Bowden
`* Re: both study and researchhongy...@gmail.com
 `* Re: both study and researchPeter T. Daniels
  `* Re: both study and researchhongy...@gmail.com
   `* Re: both study and researchspains...@gmail.com
    `- Re: both study and researchhongy...@gmail.com

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From: acorn...@imm.cnrs.fr (Athel Cornish-Bowden)
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Subject: Re: both study and research
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 by: Athel Cornish-Bowden - Tue, 25 Jan 2022 11:33 UTC

On 2022-01-25 11:31:53 +0000, hongy...@gmail.com said:

> See here [1] for the following description:
>
> ```
> This package can also provide the correspondence of k-points and LG IR
> labels between BCS (Bilbao Crystallographic Server) and BC conventions.
> In a word, the package SpaceGroupIrep is very useful for both study and
> research, e.g. for analyzing band topology or determining selection
> rules.
> ```
> Is "both study and research" a good style?

If that's what you want to say, then why not? What do you think is
wrong with it?
>
> [1] https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cpc.2021.107993
>
> Regards,
> HZ

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

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 by: hongy...@gmail.com - Tue, 25 Jan 2022 12:12 UTC

On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 7:34:00 PM UTC+8, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2022-01-25 11:31:53 +0000, hongy...@gmail.com said:
>
> > See here [1] for the following description:
> >
> > ```
> > This package can also provide the correspondence of k-points and LG IR
> > labels between BCS (Bilbao Crystallographic Server) and BC conventions.
> > In a word, the package SpaceGroupIrep is very useful for both study and
> > research, e.g. for analyzing band topology or determining selection
> > rules.
> > ```
> > Is "both study and research" a good style?
> If that's what you want to say, then why not? What do you think is
> wrong with it?

I think it's a bit wordy and tautological.

> >
> > [1] https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cpc.2021.107993

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 by: Peter T. Daniels - Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:43 UTC

On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 7:12:18 AM UTC-5, hongy...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 7:34:00 PM UTC+8, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> > On 2022-01-25 11:31:53 +0000, hongy...@gmail.com said:

> > > See here [1] for the following description:
> > >
> > > ```
> > > This package can also provide the correspondence of k-points and LG IR
> > > labels between BCS (Bilbao Crystallographic Server) and BC conventions.
> > > In a word, the package SpaceGroupIrep is very useful for both study and
> > > research, e.g. for analyzing band topology or determining selection
> > > rules.
> > > ```
> > > Is "both study and research" a good style?
> > If that's what you want to say, then why not? What do you think is
> > wrong with it?
> I think it's a bit wordy and tautological.
>
> > >
> > > [1] https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cpc.2021.107993

You study what is already known, you research what isn't known yet.

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 by: hongy...@gmail.com - Tue, 25 Jan 2022 14:33 UTC

On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 9:43:09 PM UTC+8, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> You study what is already known, you research what isn't known yet.

Thank you. But I think it would be better to connect the two sentences with a semicolon:

You study what is already known; you research what isn't known yet.

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 by: spains...@gmail.com - Tue, 25 Jan 2022 15:05 UTC

On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 2:33:47 PM UTC, hongy...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 9:43:09 PM UTC+8, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > You study what is already known, you research what isn't known yet.
> Thank you. But I think it would be better to connect the two sentences with a semicolon:
>
> You study what is already known; you research what isn't known yet.

It doesn't make any difference.

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 by: hongy...@gmail.com - Wed, 26 Jan 2022 12:54 UTC

On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 11:05:33 PM UTC+8, spains...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 2:33:47 PM UTC, hongy...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 9:43:09 PM UTC+8, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > > You study what is already known, you research what isn't known yet.
> > Thank you. But I think it would be better to connect the two sentences with a semicolon:
> >
> > You study what is already known; you research what isn't known yet.
> It doesn't make any difference.

They are two sentences. IMO, ';' represents a longer pause in tone than ','.

Regards,
HZ


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