Here's the picture:
https://ibb.co/WW7rRdH

Before we tell you what the client called about can any of you see
a problem in that picture? What you're seeing was done by a "pro"
(on paper anyway). It's a big no no that *all* electricians
should know and for sure network/computer repair
people.

So what's not right in that picture? :)
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welfare - who can be reached via telephone - text message - or in
person - by using the publically available contact information
below:

Michael (snit) and Anne Glasser (life-like troll lady)
3181 Willow Dr, Prescott, AZ
86301-4855 
1.928.445.3425 or 1-(928)-445-3425
1.928.776.9519 or 1-(928)-776-9519
They are professional Grifters who live on the benefits your hard
earned tax paying dollars provide. Animal abuser = snit pissed on
his own cat!

On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 21:26:11 -0400 (EDT), LegionX
<MichaelAndAnneGlasser@griftersconjobsllc.com> wrote:

>
>Here's the picture:
>https://ibb.co/WW7rRdH
>
>Before we tell you what the client called about can any of you see
>a problem in that picture? What you're seeing was done by a "pro"
>(on paper anyway). It's a big no no that *all* electricians
>should know and for sure network/computer repair
>people.
>
>So what's not right in that picture? :)

I am guessing you have an issue with the bundle of ethernet cables
running next to the Romex but the reality is ethernet has a very good
ability to reject 60hz inputs.
I understand it is a "practice" not to do that but we could never
reproduce the alleged problems. We also coiled ethernet cables on top
of fluorescent luminaires and ran them in an elevator shaft next to
the power conductors and could not identify any reduction in
performance there either.
It was actually a little disappointing because the initial objective
was to demonstrate the problems these are supposed to cause and
provide the troubleshooting experience.

My guess is this legend came from less capable wiring methods and more
primitive adapters.
I put it right up there with the ancient "isolated ground" legends.

On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 12:54:03 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 21:26:11 -0400 (EDT), LegionX
> <MichaelAnd...@griftersconjobsllc.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Here's the picture:
> >https://ibb.co/WW7rRdH
> >
> >Before we tell you what the client called about can any of you see
> >a problem in that picture? What you're seeing was done by a "pro"
> >(on paper anyway). It's a big no no that *all* electricians
> >should know and for sure network/computer repair
> >people.
> >
> >So what's not right in that picture? :)
> I am guessing you have an issue with the bundle of ethernet cables
> running next to the Romex but the reality is ethernet has a very good
> ability to reject 60hz inputs.
> I understand it is a "practice" not to do that but we could never
> reproduce the alleged problems. We also coiled ethernet cables on top
> of fluorescent luminaires and ran them in an elevator shaft next to
> the power conductors and could not identify any reduction in
> performance there either.
> It was actually a little disappointing because the initial objective
> was to demonstrate the problems these are supposed to cause and
> provide the troubleshooting experience.
>
> My guess is this legend came from less capable wiring methods and more
> primitive adapters.
> I put it right up there with the ancient "isolated ground" legends.

From my back-in-the-80's computer repair days, I think I recall that as long as the
network cables ran parallel to the electrical wires, the world was a happy place. It
was the crossover at angles that (supposedly) caused the interference. I could be
mis-remembering.

However, even though the OP mentioned "network/computer repair people" the thing
I question has nothing to do with that arena:

What about the white wire used on what appears to be a ganged breaker on the lower
left? Shouldn't that be red or at least wrapped to identify it as hot? It's certainly not a
pigtail for a GFCI or AFCI breaker.

Marilyn Manson <comawhiteknuckles@gmail.com> writes:
>On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 12:54:03 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 21:26:11 -0400 (EDT), LegionX
>> <MichaelAnd...@griftersconjobsllc.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Here's the picture:
>> >https://ibb.co/WW7rRdH
>> >
>> >Before we tell you what the client called about can any of you see
>> >a problem in that picture? What you're seeing was done by a "pro"
>> >(on paper anyway). It's a big no no that *all* electricians
>> >should know and for sure network/computer repair
>> >people.
>> >
>> >So what's not right in that picture? :)
>> I am guessing you have an issue with the bundle of ethernet cables
>> running next to the Romex but the reality is ethernet has a very good
>> ability to reject 60hz inputs.
>> I understand it is a "practice" not to do that but we could never
>> reproduce the alleged problems. We also coiled ethernet cables on top
>> of fluorescent luminaires and ran them in an elevator shaft next to
>> the power conductors and could not identify any reduction in
>> performance there either.
>> It was actually a little disappointing because the initial objective
>> was to demonstrate the problems these are supposed to cause and
>> provide the troubleshooting experience.
>>
>> My guess is this legend came from less capable wiring methods and more
>> primitive adapters.
>> I put it right up there with the ancient "isolated ground" legends.
>
>From my back-in-the-80's computer repair days, I think I recall that as long as the
>network cables ran parallel to the electrical wires, the world was a happy place. It
>was the crossover at angles that (supposedly) caused the interference. I could be
>mis-remembering.

It's the other way around.

Note that Cat 5 network cables are twisted differential pairs and
generally immune to externally induced crosstalk and EMI.

Earlier ethernet cables (e.g. 10base5) were shielded.

On Fri, 01 Oct 2021 17:36:02 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

>Marilyn Manson <comawhiteknuckles@gmail.com> writes:
>>On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 12:54:03 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>>> On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 21:26:11 -0400 (EDT), LegionX
>>> <MichaelAnd...@griftersconjobsllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >Here's the picture:
>>> >https://ibb.co/WW7rRdH
>>> >
>>> >Before we tell you what the client called about can any of you see
>>> >a problem in that picture? What you're seeing was done by a "pro"
>>> >(on paper anyway). It's a big no no that *all* electricians
>>> >should know and for sure network/computer repair
>>> >people.
>>> >
>>> >So what's not right in that picture? :)
>>> I am guessing you have an issue with the bundle of ethernet cables
>>> running next to the Romex but the reality is ethernet has a very good
>>> ability to reject 60hz inputs.
>>> I understand it is a "practice" not to do that but we could never
>>> reproduce the alleged problems. We also coiled ethernet cables on top
>>> of fluorescent luminaires and ran them in an elevator shaft next to
>>> the power conductors and could not identify any reduction in
>>> performance there either.
>>> It was actually a little disappointing because the initial objective
>>> was to demonstrate the problems these are supposed to cause and
>>> provide the troubleshooting experience.
>>>
>>> My guess is this legend came from less capable wiring methods and more
>>> primitive adapters.
>>> I put it right up there with the ancient "isolated ground" legends.
>>
>>From my back-in-the-80's computer repair days, I think I recall that as long as the
>>network cables ran parallel to the electrical wires, the world was a happy place. It
>>was the crossover at angles that (supposedly) caused the interference. I could be
>>mis-remembering.
>
>It's the other way around.
>
>Note that Cat 5 network cables are twisted differential pairs and
>generally immune to externally induced crosstalk and EMI.
>
>Earlier ethernet cables (e.g. 10base5) were shielded.

Therte WERE problems with the old ArcNet ans 10B2 co-ax based networks
running parallel to current carrying power conductors - and also
problems with long co-ax cables coiled up under desks etc instead of
using appropriate length cables. Properly installed twisted pair
networks are pretty resistant to electromagnetic interference -
particularly the lastest Cat7 and up sheilded twisted pair cables.

There have been problems with higher speed (Gigabit and above)internet
cables picking up high frequency (RF) interference, which is why
cat5E, cat 6, Cat6E and Cat7 cabling now exist, but to those systems
60Hz is barely even "backround noise"

LegionX wrote:

>
>Here's the picture:
>https://ibb.co/WW7rRdH
>
>Before we tell you what the client called about can any of you see
>a problem in that picture? What you're seeing was done by a "pro"
>(on paper anyway). It's a big no no that all electricians
>should know and for sure network/computer repair
>people.
>
>So what's not right in that picture? :)

I see:
-- an unterminated network cable
-- several power adapters just hanging there without being strain relief
-- network cables wrapping around a router's antenna
-- no cover on the breaker panel
-- a ground wire not within conduit

Those hurt my eyes.

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 1 Oct 2021 10:20:53 -0700 (PDT), Marilyn
Manson <comawhiteknuckles@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 12:54:03 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 21:26:11 -0400 (EDT), LegionX
>> <MichaelAnd...@griftersconjobsllc.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Here's the picture:
>> >https://ibb.co/WW7rRdH
>> >
>> >Before we tell you what the client called about can any of you see
>> >a problem in that picture? What you're seeing was done by a "pro"
>> >(on paper anyway). It's a big no no that *all* electricians
>> >should know and for sure network/computer repair
>> >people.
>> >
>> >So what's not right in that picture? :)
>> I am guessing you have an issue with the bundle of ethernet cables
>> running next to the Romex but the reality is ethernet has a very good
>> ability to reject 60hz inputs.
>> I understand it is a "practice" not to do that but we could never
>> reproduce the alleged problems. We also coiled ethernet cables on top
>> of fluorescent luminaires and ran them in an elevator shaft next to
>> the power conductors and could not identify any reduction in
>> performance there either.
>> It was actually a little disappointing because the initial objective
>> was to demonstrate the problems these are supposed to cause and
>> provide the troubleshooting experience.
>>
>> My guess is this legend came from less capable wiring methods and more
>> primitive adapters.
>> I put it right up there with the ancient "isolated ground" legends.
>
>From my back-in-the-80's computer repair days, I think I recall that as long as the
>network cables ran parallel to the electrical wires, the world was a happy place. It
>was the crossover at angles that (supposedly) caused the interference. I could be
>mis-remembering.
>
>However, even though the OP mentioned "network/computer repair people" the thing
>I question has nothing to do with that arena:
>
>What about the white wire used on what appears to be a ganged breaker on the lower
>left? Shouldn't that be red or at least wrapped to identify it as hot? It's certainly not a
>pigtail for a GFCI or AFCI breaker.

Good point.

I wonder if the big problem referred to is the 110AC going next to what
seem to be wifi antennas.

As an aside when I first got cable, I wanted the installer to put the
box not under the 14" tv, but in the closet 6 feet away. He said, Well,
I don't know if it it will work but he did it and it was fine of course.

Later when I was running an extension, it had to go down two floors,
from the back to the front of the house and up 6 feet, and for some
reason I've forgtten, while I was installing it, it was actually three
times that long, down, back and down again, so it was about 150 feet and
it still worked fine.

gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:

>I am guessing you have an issue with the bundle of ethernet cablesrunning next to the Romex but the reality is ethernet has a very good ability to reject 60hz inputs.

To a point and depending on the gear yes. Those are utp cat5e
cables running a gigabit network. And those are multiple home
runs of romex they were running alongside. Heavy load carrying
ones in this case. Heaters and melters of various kinds which are
always on. They work like a water heater though so only pull to
maintain set temp.

We also took issue with the fact that is a subpanel in the picture
with the neutral and ground bus bars bonded. They shouldn't have
been left in that configuration. The bridge at the bottom of the
panel should have been removed.

>I understand it is a "practice" not to do that but we could never reproduce the alleged problems.

We've been able to reproduce some of the reported issues to
varying degree in the lab. That particular job we were able to
show considerable packet loss along the network which is why we
were called in. We relocated all of the network gear and cabling.
It's entirely possible that we cleared the issue by properly
terminating everything and that the relocation step wasn't
necessary.

>My guess is this legend came from less capable wiring methods and more primitive adapters.

Possibly.

>I put it right up there with the ancient "isolated ground" legends.

Are you writing about the isolated ground for supposed rf
reduction? Otherwise as far as we understand it it's just a
ground wire that's insulated and only makes contact with metal at
the panel ground bar and the device. Are you writing about the
same thing here?

If you are we haven't decided which camp were in yet. We haven't
had time to run any experiments for that.

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<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse9>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse10>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse11>
Snit is one f*cked up puppy - who steals our hard earned tax
paying dollars from the government by running a long con for
welfare - who can be reached via telephone - text message - or in
person - by using the publically available contact information
below:

Michael (snit) and Anne Glasser (life-like troll lady)
3181 Willow Dr, Prescott, AZ
86301-4855 
1.928.445.3425 or 1-(928)-445-3425
1.928.776.9519 or 1-(928)-776-9519
They are professional Grifters who live on the benefits your hard
earned tax paying dollars provide. Animal abuser = snit pissed on
his own cat!

On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 7:33:57 PM UTC-4, LegionX wrote:
> gfre...@aol.com Wrote in message:
>
> >I am guessing you have an issue with the bundle of ethernet cablesrunning next to the Romex but the reality is ethernet has a very good ability to reject 60hz inputs.
>
> To a point and depending on the gear yes. Those are utp cat5e
> cables running a gigabit network. And those are multiple home
> runs of romex they were running alongside. Heavy load carrying
> ones in this case. Heaters and melters of various kinds which are
> always on. They work like a water heater though so only pull to
> maintain set temp.
>
> We also took issue with the fact that is a subpanel in the picture
> with the neutral and ground bus bars bonded. They shouldn't have
> been left in that configuration. The bridge at the bottom of the
> panel should have been removed.
> >I understand it is a "practice" not to do that but we could never reproduce the alleged problems.
> We've been able to reproduce some of the reported issues to
> varying degree in the lab. That particular job we were able to
> show considerable packet loss along the network which is why we
> were called in. We relocated all of the network gear and cabling.
> It's entirely possible that we cleared the issue by properly
> terminating everything and that the relocation step wasn't
> necessary.
> >My guess is this legend came from less capable wiring methods and more primitive adapters.
> Possibly.
> >I put it right up there with the ancient "isolated ground" legends.
> Are you writing about the isolated ground for supposed rf
> reduction? Otherwise as far as we understand it it's just a
> ground wire that's insulated and only makes contact with metal at
> the panel ground bar and the device. Are you writing about the
> same thing here?
>
> If you are we haven't decided which camp were in yet. We haven't
> had time to run any experiments for that.
> --

But what about the white wire into the breaker on the lower left?

Am I wrong that that should be taped as red or is something else
going on there?

Marilyn Manson <comawhiteknuckles@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

>But what about the white wire into the breaker on the lower left? Am I wrong that that should be taped as red or is something else going on there?

If you're writing about the last double pole breaker on the left
then yes the white wire should have been marked to indicate it's
a hot wire and not a neutral. We used red tape. A red sharpie
would have worked as well.

As we wrote when we shared the pic - the company that did the work
is a "pro" on paper - In real life they're asshats. On google
they've got xx reviews that aren't good.

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<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse8>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse9>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse10>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse11>
Snit is one f*cked up puppy - who steals our hard earned tax
paying dollars from the government by running a long con for
welfare - who can be reached via telephone - text message - or in
person - by using the publically available contact information
below:

Michael (snit) and Anne Glasser (life-like troll lady)
3181 Willow Dr, Prescott, AZ
86301-4855 
1.928.445.3425 or 1-(928)-445-3425
1.928.776.9519 or 1-(928)-776-9519
They are professional Grifters who live on the benefits your hard
earned tax paying dollars provide. Animal abuser = snit pissed on
his own cat!

On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 18:34:29 -0000 (UTC), "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

>LegionX wrote:
>
>>
>>Here's the picture:
>>https://ibb.co/WW7rRdH
>>
>>Before we tell you what the client called about can any of you see
>>a problem in that picture? What you're seeing was done by a "pro"
>>(on paper anyway). It's a big no no that all electricians
>>should know and for sure network/computer repair
>>people.
>>
>>So what's not right in that picture? :)
>
>
>I see:
>-- an unterminated network cable
>-- several power adapters just hanging there without being strain relief
>-- network cables wrapping around a router's antenna
>-- no cover on the breaker panel
>-- a ground wire not within conduit
>
>Those hurt my eyes.

Grounding Electrode Conductors 4ga or larger are not required to be in
a raceway.
I assume the cover was off to show us the neat wiring inside.
The picture is gone now (404) so I can't look at it more.

On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 9:33:08 PM UTC-4, LegionX wrote:
> Marilyn Manson <comawhit...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
> >But what about the white wire into the breaker on the lower left?
>>Am I wrong that that should be taped as red or is something else going on there?
> If you're writing about the last double pole breaker on the left
> then yes the white wire should have been marked to indicate it's
> a hot wire and not a neutral. We used red tape. A red sharpie
> would have worked as well.
>

Thanks. That's actually the first thing I noticed when you asked "can
any of you see a problem in that picture?" but when you added that
"network/computer repair people" should know about it, I didn't know
why you would say that about an unmarked neutral. ;-)

My son had a similar but different issue. He found a 4 wire drier circuit
in the garage of a house he bought. Whoever wired it used the black and
white as the hots and the red as the neutral. I mean, I can see maybe not
knowing what you are doing and using the white as a hot, but wouldn't you
wonder why you were attaching the only red wire to a bar full of nothing
but white wires? Wouldn't that make *anybody* step back for a second
and say "This just doesn't seem right."?

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 1 Oct 2021 18:34:29 -0000 (UTC),
"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:

>LegionX wrote:
>
>>
>>Here's the picture:
>>https://ibb.co/WW7rRdH

The page is gone. I guess he was embarrassed.
>>
>>Before we tell you what the client called about can any of you see
>>a problem in that picture? What you're seeing was done by a "pro"
>>(on paper anyway). It's a big no no that all electricians
>>should know and for sure network/computer repair
>>people.
>>
>>So what's not right in that picture? :)
>
>
>I see:
>-- an unterminated network cable
>-- several power adapters just hanging there without being strain relief
>-- network cables wrapping around a router's antenna
>-- no cover on the breaker panel

I noticed that but forgot to mention it. I'll probably be fired.

>-- a ground wire not within conduit
>
>Those hurt my eyes.

Marilyn Manson <comawhiteknuckles@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

>computer repair people" should know about it, I didn't know why you would say that about an unmarked neutral. ;-)

We weren't called there for panel issues. The problems with the
panel itself are bonus points.

>I mean, I can see maybe not knowing what you are doing and using the white as a hot, but wouldn't you wonder why you were attaching the only red wire to a bar full of nothing but white wires? Wouldn't that make *anybody* step back for a second and say "This just doesn't seem right."?

Sadly no. Too many people ignore the obvious or what should be.
Your sons issue is a perfect example of that.

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<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse9>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse10>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse11>
Snit is one f*cked up puppy - who steals our hard earned tax
paying dollars from the government by running a long con for
welfare - who can be reached via telephone - text message - or in
person - by using the publically available contact information
below:

Michael (snit) and Anne Glasser (life-like troll lady)
3181 Willow Dr, Prescott, AZ
86301-4855 
1.928.445.3425 or 1-(928)-445-3425
1.928.776.9519 or 1-(928)-776-9519
They are professional Grifters who live on the benefits your hard
earned tax paying dollars provide. Animal abuser = snit pissed on
his own cat!

gfretwell@aol.com Wrote in message:r
> On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 18:34:29 -0000 (UTC), "badgolferman"<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:>LegionX wrote:>>>>>Here's the picture:>>https://ibb.co/WW7rRdH>>>>Before we tell you what the client called about can any of you see>>a problem in that picture? What you're seeing was done by a "pro">>(on paper anyway). It's a big no no that all electricians>>should know and for sure network/computer repair>>people.>>>>So what's not right in that picture? :)>>>I see:>-- an unterminated network cable>-- several power adapters just hanging there without being strain relief>-- network cables wrapping around a router's antenna>-- no cover on the breaker panel>-- a ground wire not within conduit>>Those hurt my eyes.Grounding Electrode Conductors 4ga or larger are not required to be ina raceway.

>I assume the cover was off to show us the neat wiring inside. The picture is gone now (404) so I can't look at it more.

We didn't remove the picture from either of the sites we uploaded
it to. The 404 error is either a temporary database problem or an
individual by the name of snit filed a bogus complaint to down
the pic.

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<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse7>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse8>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse9>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse10>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse11>
Snit is one f*cked up puppy - who steals our hard earned tax
paying dollars from the government by running a long con for
welfare - who can be reached via telephone - text message - or in
person - by using the publically available contact information
below:

Michael (snit) and Anne Glasser (life-like troll lady)
3181 Willow Dr, Prescott, AZ
86301-4855 
1.928.445.3425 or 1-(928)-445-3425
1.928.776.9519 or 1-(928)-776-9519
They are professional Grifters who live on the benefits your hard
earned tax paying dollars provide. Animal abuser = snit pissed on
his own cat!

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> Wrote in message:r
> In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 1 Oct 2021 18:34:29 -0000 (UTC),"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:>LegionX wrote:>>>>>Here's the picture:>>

>https://ibb.co/WW7rRdH
The page is gone. I guess he was embarrassed.

The company that did that work should be - but the fact they
presently use that pic on their main page of their company
website tells us they are proud of the shit job they
did.

And we didn't remove the pic from the site. It's either a temp
database issue or a notorious usenet troll filed a false
complaint to have the pic they have no rights to downed. Our
signature contains details on this troll.

The site was returning 404 several times yesterday too. Then it
would come back to life. The other site didn't do that when we
checked it but it's now doing a 404 as well - we suspect we've
been snitted.

--
<https://tinyurl.com/WhatIsSnit>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-Reviews>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitwhopperlie>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snit-teddybear>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitonduck>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitongoogle>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse1>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse2>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse3>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse4>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse5>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse6>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse7>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse8>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse9>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse10>
<https://tinyurl.com/Snitdrugabuse11>
Snit is one f*cked up puppy - who steals our hard earned tax
paying dollars from the government by running a long con for
welfare - who can be reached via telephone - text message - or in
person - by using the publically available contact information
below:

Michael (snit) and Anne Glasser (life-like troll lady)
3181 Willow Dr, Prescott, AZ
86301-4855 
1.928.445.3425 or 1-(928)-445-3425
1.928.776.9519 or 1-(928)-776-9519
They are professional Grifters who live on the benefits your hard
earned tax paying dollars provide. Animal abuser = snit pissed on
his own cat!

On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 19:59:29 -0700 (PDT), Marilyn Manson
<comawhiteknuckles@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 9:33:08 PM UTC-4, LegionX wrote:
>> Marilyn Manson <comawhit...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
>> >But what about the white wire into the breaker on the lower left?
>>>Am I wrong that that should be taped as red or is something else going on there?
>> If you're writing about the last double pole breaker on the left
>> then yes the white wire should have been marked to indicate it's
>> a hot wire and not a neutral. We used red tape. A red sharpie
>> would have worked as well.
>>
>
>Thanks. That's actually the first thing I noticed when you asked "can
>any of you see a problem in that picture?" but when you added that
>"network/computer repair people" should know about it, I didn't know
>why you would say that about an unmarked neutral. ;-)

I saw the red button on that breaker and assumed it was a GFCI.

On Sat, 2 Oct 2021 02:27:52 -0400 (EDT), LegionX
<MichaelAndAnneGlasser@griftersconjobsllc.com> wrote:

>micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> Wrote in message:r
>> In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 1 Oct 2021 18:34:29 -0000 (UTC),"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:>LegionX wrote:>>>>>Here's the picture:>>
>
>>https://ibb.co/WW7rRdH
>The page is gone. I guess he was embarrassed.
>
>The company that did that work should be - but the fact they
> presently use that pic on their main page of their company
> website tells us they are proud of the shit job they
> did.
>
>And we didn't remove the pic from the site. It's either a temp
> database issue or a notorious usenet troll filed a false
> complaint to have the pic they have no rights to downed. Our
> signature contains details on this troll.
>
>The site was returning 404 several times yesterday too. Then it
> would come back to life. The other site didn't do that when we
> checked it but it's now doing a 404 as well - we suspect we've
> been snitted.

It is back.

On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 19:59:29 -0700 (PDT), Marilyn Manson
<comawhiteknuckles@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 9:33:08 PM UTC-4, LegionX wrote:
>> Marilyn Manson <comawhit...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
>> >But what about the white wire into the breaker on the lower left?
>>>Am I wrong that that should be taped as red or is something else going on there?
>> If you're writing about the last double pole breaker on the left
>> then yes the white wire should have been marked to indicate it's
>> a hot wire and not a neutral. We used red tape. A red sharpie
>> would have worked as well.
>>
>
>Thanks. That's actually the first thing I noticed when you asked "can
>any of you see a problem in that picture?" but when you added that
>"network/computer repair people" should know about it, I didn't know
>why you would say that about an unmarked neutral. ;-)
I just saw the one on the left and you are right. It should have been
reidentified if they are on the 2002 or later when 200.7 was changed