On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 06:30:43 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
<trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

>On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 6:15:25 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 08:10:04 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
>> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
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>> >On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 1:37:23 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 06:21:14 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
>> >> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 8:06:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 09:12:18 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
>> >> >> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 6:26:01 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Sun, 26 Sep 2021 17:11:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >On 9/26/2021 2:14 PM, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> That just helps Laundrie create reasonable doubt unless they can make
>> >> >> >> >> the case that he killed all three.
>> >> >> >> >> If the card holder says it was OK for Laundrie to use that card that
>> >> >> >> >> case will crumble. They may turn out to be a friend and he was not
>> >> >> >> >> charged with anything at the time so there is no "Aiding and Abetting"
>> >> >> >> >> charge there. I suspect they only brought the charge as a tool to get
>> >> >> >> >> warrants on the parent's home and financial records anyway.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> It is scary but this weasel might get away with this. (assuming he
>> >> >> >> >> really killed her). Without some very convincing physical evidence
>> >> >> >> >> this could be a hard case to prove. I feel bad for the parents, all of
>> >> >> >> >> them.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Yes, he may have headed home and just forgot she was with him.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> He might just say "I couldn't take one more day of her shit so I went
>> >> >> >> home. She was trying to trick some other guy the last time I saw her".
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >I think the point is that if one were going to say that and try to have
>> >> >> >anyone believe it, it would have to have been when the police first
>> >> >> >contacted him in Florida. He still hasn't said anything. It is very bizarre,
>> >> >> >because that kind of story wouldn't be hard to put together and
>> >> >> >from all that I see, it could only help him.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> He still has the right to remain silent and I suspect the attorney the
>> >> >> family hired told him to avail himself of that right.
>> >> >
>> >> >Of course he has the right, but that's completely different from whether
>> >> >remaining silent in a case like this is smart or adds immensely to making
>> >> >you look guilty, turning a likely jury that saw this happen in the news like
>> >> >we did, against you, etc.
>> >> >
>> >> It certainly makes you look guilty in the eyes of the public but in a
>> >> court of law it is still your right. If he did do it that might make
>> >> the difference between a full boat conviction on all counts and a plea
>> >> bargain.
>> >
>> >What exactly is the "that" in there? I don't see making a statement
>> >along the lines of "We were at this location, had another argument,
>> >she stormed off, she didn't come back, after 3 hours I left and went home",
>> >that's all I know, being detrimental to either a conviction or a plea bargain.
>> >But saying nothing sure is detrimental to both, as most potential
>> >jurors and the prosecutor know about his refusal to help.
>> >
>> >If it was her debit card that he was using, that's going to add to the
>> >evidence, eg at a trial the prosecutor will be using that to suggest that
>> >he knew she was dead. If she just left, went missing, etc, an
>> >innocent person would not have been using her card, they would have
>> >been concerned that she was alone somewhere without access to
>> >her money. They would have contacted her parents in case she
>> >called them. I'm fairly confident they will have a decent case,
>> >but first they have to find him. Dog the bounty hunter is after him
>> >now and so far he seems to be doing better than the cops and FBI.
>> >He got a tip that Laundrie and his parents had visited a campground
>> >in FL right after he returned and he checked it out and it's true,
>> >he found video. Cops said they didn't know anything, now they
>> >are saying it's correct. It's a bit odd that right after coming back
>> >from a cross country trek, this guy goes camping with his parents,
>> >isn't it?
>> >
>> >
>> I am sure any lawyer would say remaining silent is just that. Don't
>> say shit. Anything you say can only lead to more questions.
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>That's true if your client is guilty and doesn't want to fess up.
>Not true if your client is innocent and has information that can
>help clear them.
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>> We don't have a clue what he might say about that card.
>> He could easily say she was holding all of their money in that account
>> and he was only spending what he believed was his. Was he the one
>> holding the card all the time?
>> The card thing may be a pretty thin beef but it did give the Feds a
>> "tool" to get warrants and subpoenas.
>> The point is, he can start his story after he knows what they know
>> through "discovery" motions. If he had made any statement at all up
>> until now, it could be a lot easier to catch him in a lie.
>> I agree this makes him look guilty but looking guilty and actually
>> being convicted are two different things.
>> Richard Jewell looked guilty.
>> So far it looks like he has had competent legal council tho.
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>I wonder if that lawyer can sleep at night. I wouldn't take the case.
>
>> The only question is where he went and how long can he hide?
>> "Dead" is still not out of the question.
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>Dog is after him, he always gets his guy.

Dog is as likely to get arrested as Laundrie. The law he uses to cover
his exploits does not apply because this is not a bail jumper. There
are also fairly strict laws governing bounty hunters in Florida.
Dog is just pimping his new show.
This Egmont Key thing is beyond ridiculous. Why would anyone try to
hide on a island that you need public transportation to get to if you
don't have an accomplis with a boat, willing to go to jail for you?
That place is far too easy to lock down and send real 4 legged,
biting, dogs in to look for you. It is just a time wasting diversion.
My guess is he isn't even in this state.

On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 06:37:27 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
<trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

>On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 6:26:13 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 08:11:22 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
>> <tra...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 1:45:26 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021 09:41:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On 9/28/2021 9:21 AM, trader_4 wrote:
>> >> >> On Monday, September 27, 2021 at 8:06:02 PM UTC-4, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>>>> He might just say "I couldn't take one more day of her shit so I went
>> >> >>>>> home. She was trying to trick some other guy the last time I saw her".
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I think the point is that if one were going to say that and try to have
>> >> >>>> anyone believe it, it would have to have been when the police first
>> >> >>>> contacted him in Florida. He still hasn't said anything. It is very bizarre,
>> >> >>>> because that kind of story wouldn't be hard to put together and
>> >> >>> >from all that I see, it could only help him.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>> He still has the right to remain silent and I suspect the attorney the
>> >> >>> family hired told him to avail himself of that right.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Of course he has the right, but that's completely different from whether
>> >> >> remaining silent in a case like this is smart or adds immensely to making
>> >> >> you look guilty, turning a likely jury that saw this happen in the news like
>> >> >> we did, against you, etc.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >No problem finding 12 people to vote guilty just based on his behavior.
>> >> They still need to present a compelling case or the judge will
>> >> dismiss. Those guys don't like to be overturned on appeal. Like I told
>> >> Trader, the worst thing they can do is rush a prosecution and lose.
>> >> Then the guy walks and he can write a book about how he did it with
>> >> impunity. (OJ)
>> >
>> >When is the last time you saw that actually happen, ie rush a murder
>> >case and lose because of it?
>> >
>> >
>> I suppose you could look around and find some but most murder cases
>> never make the news.
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>I was looking for you to do that. And murder cases never making the news
>must be a Florida thing. Here they get covered. They typically don't get
>national coverage, but they get local coverage.
>
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>> Caylee Anthony was a famous one here in Florida.
>> Mom Casey was convicted of lying to the cops but they couldn't make
>> the murder charge stick even though she looked guilty as hell.
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>But what did the prosecution rush, what came out later, after the trial
>that would have made a difference and resulted in a murder conviction?
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>> Most people think Robert Blake got away with killing Bonnie Lee too
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>But what did the prosecution rush, what came out later, after the trial
>that would have made a difference and resulted in a murder conviction?

We will never know will we?