Would syspos please post a ballpark of the number of new subscribers on
their servers since the google groupocalypse groupsspagheddon
announcement? This information metric will be good for having as part
of Usenet history.

I hope you all are keeping track! My suspicion is that Usenet is
certainly not dead and that subscriber numbers will prove that possibly
thousands still lurk the network.

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On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 16:44:13 -0600, SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> wrote:
>Would syspos please post a ballpark of the number of new subscribers on
>their servers since the google groupocalypse groupsspagheddon
>announcement? This information metric will be good for having as part
>of Usenet history.
>I hope you all are keeping track! My suspicion is that Usenet is
>certainly not dead and that subscriber numbers will prove that possibly
>thousands still lurk the network.

seems normal to download from news servers mainly to browse newsgroup
message lists and maybe download a few articles before subscribing to
that newsgroup, if only to read but not necessarily to post, hence to
lurk; but with g2n going asunder, probably many of those google users
are currently looking and/or have already found other news servers to
stay connected with their favorite usenet newsgroups; usenet is still
alive after all these years . . . and 22 february is 52 days from now

Am 01.01.2024 um 16:44:13 Uhr schrieb SugarBug:

> Would syspos please post a ballpark of the number of new subscribers
> on their servers since the google groupocalypse groupsspagheddon
> announcement?

For E-S, such statistics are available:
https://www.eternal-september.org/userstats.php

PS: Non-existing hierarchy google removed from crosspost

On Tue, 2 Jan 2024 08:31:35 +0100, Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
>Am 01.01.2024 um 16:44:13 Uhr schrieb SugarBug:
>> Would syspos please post a ballpark of the number of new subscribers
>> on their servers since the google groupocalypse groupsspagheddon
>> announcement?
>
>For E-S, such statistics are available:
>https://www.eternal-september.org/userstats.php
>PS: Non-existing hierarchy google removed from crosspost

had to look it up ... (using Tor Browser 13.0.8)
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Eternal+September+1993
>Eternal September or the September that never ended[1] is Usenet slang for
>a period beginning around 1993[2] when Internet service providers[2] began
>offering Usenet access to many new users. The flood of new users overwhelmed
>the existing culture for online forums and the ability to enforce existing
>norms. AOL followed with their Usenet gateway service in March 1994,[3]
>leading to a constant stream of new users. Hence, from the early Usenet
>point of view, the influx of new users in September 1993 never ended.
>History
>A 1994 t-shirt commemorating eternal September
>During the 1980s and early 1990s, Usenet and the Internet were generally the
>domain of dedicated computer professionals and hobbyists; new users joined
>slowly, in small numbers, and observed and learned the social conventions of
>online interaction without having much of an impact on the experienced users.
>The only exception to this was September of every year, when large numbers of
>first-year college students gained access to the Internet and Usenet through
>their universities. These large groups of new users who had not yet learned
>online etiquette created a nuisance for the experienced users, who came to
>dread September every year. Once ISPs like AOL made Internet access widely
>available for home users, a continuous influx of new users began, making it
>feel like it was always "September" to the more experienced users.[4]
>The full phrase appears to have evolved over a series of months on two
>separate alt.folklore newsgroups where a number of threads exist lamenting
>what they saw as an increase in low-quality posts across various newsgroups.
>Several members of the newsgroups referenced aspects of the "September"
>issue, typically in a joking manner.
>In a thread on January 8, 1994, Joel Furr cross-posted asking "Is it just me,
>or has Delphi unleashed a staggering amount of weirdos on the net?", which
>garnered a reply from Karl Reinsch "Of course it's perpetually September for
>Delphi users, isn't it?"[5] The day before, Furr had also posted the same
>message to alt.folklore.urban, where David Fischer responded with a joke
>call-to-action where he referred to the increasing numbers of Delphi users
>as the "Never-Ending-September".[6] Fischer also replied to a different
>thread on January 25, 1994, in alt.folklore.computers saying, "It's moot
>now. September 1993 will go down in net history as the September that never
>ended."[7][8] This quote has been suggested to have been the first
>reference.[9]
>Possibly the first use of the "Eternal September" phrase was a newsgroup
>post by John William Chambless in February 1994. He posted a rant including
>some excerpts of low-quality articles he found in one of his newsgroups that
>day, but titled the post "The Eternal September".[10]
>Legacy
>A tongue-in-cheek program called sdate outputs the current date, formatted
>using the Eternal September calendar (September X, 1993, where X is an
>unbounded counter for days since that epoch).[11] This is not the identically
>named sdate, one of the sixty commands that comes with the First Edition of
>Unix, that is used to set the system clock.[12] Named with similar humour is
>one of the free public Usenet servers, Eternal-September.org.[13]
> Today
> Tuesday
> January 2,
> 2024
> September 11081,
> 1993
> [refresh]
[end quote]

Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 01.01.2024 um 16:44:13 Uhr schrieb SugarBug:
>
>> Would syspos please post a ballpark of the number of new subscribers
>> on their servers since the google groupocalypse groupsspagheddon
>> announcement?
>
> For E-S, such statistics are available:
> https://www.eternal-september.org/userstats.php

According to those statistics, E-S has *fewer* new subscribers than at
the same time a year ago.

Nov to Dec 2023 2022
new subscribers 100 300

Dec to Jan 2023-2024 2022-2023
new subscribers 200 1100

> PS: Non-existing hierarchy google removed from crosspost

Followups set to alt.free.newsservers only.