Message-ID: <bcfae58b-fe20-4907-9ef7-a46a19ae9bb5n@googlegroups.com>

Post was there, then a few minutes later gone. The original post remains
accessible on other servers.

On 04/10/2023 22:06, show ver wrote:
> Message-ID: <bcfae58b-fe20-4907-9ef7-a46a19ae9bb5n@googlegroups.com>
>
> Post was there, then a few minutes later gone. The original post remains
> accessible on other servers.
>

Sorry, but it's not me to delete this post, but Eternal September via
nocem notice, see news.list.filter, M-Id
<20231004194502$c49c@news.eternal-september.org>

f/u e-s.support

Sincerely

--
Ivo Gandolfo

* Ivo Gandolfo wrote:
> On 04/10/2023 22:06, show ver wrote:
>> Message-ID: <bcfae58b-fe20-4907-9ef7-a46a19ae9bb5n@googlegroups.com>
>>
>> Post was there, then a few minutes later gone. The original post remains
>> accessible on other servers.
>>
>
> Sorry, but it's not me to delete this post, but Eternal September via
> nocem notice, see news.list.filter, M-Id
><20231004194502$c49c@news.eternal-september.org>

Looks like I should fine tune the spam rules a bit more

/------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on
| news.eternal-september.org
| X-Spam-Flag: YES
| X-Spam-Level: ***********
| X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=11.0 required=10.0 tests=BAYES_99,BAYES_999,
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| CONTENT_QP,CONTENT_UTF8 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6
| X-Spam-Report:
| * 3.8 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 99 to 100%
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| * [score: 1.0000]
| * 0.2 BAYES_999 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 99.9 to 100%
| ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| * [score: 1.0000]
| * 3.5 CONTENT_UTF8 No description available.
| * 3.5 CONTENT_QP No description available.
| User-Agent: G2/1.0
| Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2601:281:d680:55a0:bd6d:e42c:d6b2:f4e2;
| posting-account=8EHMJgoAAAAYxadOVjNU68n6_ame4Z_8
| Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
| Subject: [SPAM] Rudy Giuliani sues President Joe the Pedophile Vegetable for calling
| him a "russian pawn"
\____________________________________________________________________________________

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On Oct 4, 2023 at 10:40:44 PM CDT, "Ray Banana" <rayban@raybanana.net> wrote:

> * Ivo Gandolfo wrote:
>> On 04/10/2023 22:06, show ver wrote:
>>> Message-ID: <bcfae58b-fe20-4907-9ef7-a46a19ae9bb5n@googlegroups.com>
>>>
>>> Post was there, then a few minutes later gone. The original post remains
>>> accessible on other servers.
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, but it's not me to delete this post, but Eternal September via
>> nocem notice, see news.list.filter, M-Id
>> <20231004194502$c49c@news.eternal-september.org>
>
> Looks like I should fine tune the spam rules a bit more
>
> /----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
> | X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on
> | news.eternal-september.org
> | X-Spam-Flag: YES
> | X-Spam-Level: ***********
> | X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=11.0 required=10.0 tests=BAYES_99,BAYES_999,
> | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> | CONTENT_QP,CONTENT_UTF8 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6
> | X-Spam-Report:
> | * 3.8 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 99 to 100%
> | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> | * [score: 1.0000]
> | * 0.2 BAYES_999 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 99.9 to 100%
> | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> | * [score: 1.0000]
> | * 3.5 CONTENT_UTF8 No description available.
> | * 3.5 CONTENT_QP No description available.
> | User-Agent: G2/1.0
> | Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com;
> posting-host=2601:281:d680:55a0:bd6d:e42c:d6b2:f4e2;
> | posting-account=8EHMJgoAAAAYxadOVjNU68n6_ame4Z_8
> | Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
> | Subject: [SPAM] Rudy Giuliani sues President Joe the Pedophile Vegetable for
> calling
> | him a "russian pawn"
> \____________________________________________________________________________
> ________

Curious if you'll publish your NoCeM details in the 'registry' or announce
otherwise? I went ahead and added your entry and key, but may be worth
announcing somewhere so others can take advantage. Or maybe you did somewhere
and I missed it.

On 05/10/2023 20:41, Jesse Rehmer wrote:
>
> Curious if you'll publish your NoCeM details in the 'registry' or announce
> otherwise? I went ahead and added your entry and key, but may be worth
> announcing somewhere so others can take advantage. Or maybe you did somewhere
> and I missed it.

https://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=nocem

(Just monitor n.l.f ;) )

Sincerely

--
Ivo Gandolfo

* Jesse Rehmer wrote:

> Curious if you'll publish your NoCeM details in the 'registry' or announce
> otherwise? I went ahead and added your entry and key, but may be worth
> announcing somewhere so others can take advantage. Or maybe you did somewhere
> and I missed it.

My original plan was to run a burn-in test for 4 weeks and then submitting
all necessara information to the NoCeM registry. As the situation with Google
escalated over the last couple of days, I decided to start publishing the
NoCeM notices in news.lists.filters right away and do the administrative
work as my limited time allowed.

Ivo has already posted the link to Eternal-September's NoCeM page

https://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=nocem

More information will be added to that page as the work progresses
and I will submit all required information to the NoCeM registry.

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On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 20:06:07 -0000 (UTC)
show ver <showver@broadcom.com> wrote:

> Subject: paganini deleting legit google grope posts.

There are no legit google group posts.

Stop using google groups and install a newsreader.

There is a rumbling about depeering Google and bring the commercial
warez NNTP providers to heel. The first step is intelligently blocking
googlespam. The next step is to start depeering anyone who transports
or transits googlespam.

NNTP operators grow impatient with this tirade of endless bullshit spam
from the commercial providers. The spam is a cover for the hidden
agenda of disruption.

Keep in mind that Usenet was originally a link between institutions of
learning and information. It was not created as a commercial pet project
for serving the warez and phishing community. Warez is not a legitimate
use of the network and it needs to be stopped. Commercial Usenet
providers serve no legitimate purpose. Don't kowtow to the
commercinazis. They should all be put out of business for what they
have done to this once useful network; turning it into a shithole for
amoral thieves and irritating cockroaches.

On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 09:45:35 +0300
Depeer Google Now <depeer@google.now> wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 20:06:07 -0000 (UTC)
> show ver <showver@broadcom.com> wrote:
>
> > Subject: paganini deleting legit google grope posts.
>
> There are no legit google group posts.
>
> Stop using google groups and install a newsreader.
>
> There is a rumbling about depeering Google and bring the commercial
> warez NNTP providers to heel. The first step is intelligently blocking
> googlespam. The next step is to start depeering anyone who transports
> or transits googlespam.
>
> NNTP operators grow impatient with this tirade of endless bullshit spam
> from the commercial providers. The spam is a cover for the hidden
> agenda of disruption.
>
> Keep in mind that Usenet was originally a link between institutions of
> learning and information. It was not created as a commercial pet project
> for serving the warez and phishing community. Warez is not a legitimate
> use of the network and it needs to be stopped. Commercial Usenet
> providers serve no legitimate purpose. Don't kowtow to the
> commercinazis. They should all be put out of business for what they
> have done to this once useful network; turning it into a shithole for
> amoral thieves and irritating cockroaches.
>
You left out Russian shills.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

Depeer Google Now <depeer@google.now> wrote

>> Subject: paganini deleting legit google grope posts.
>
> There are no legit google group posts.

First, I must commend Ivo in allowing us the privacy use of bofh.

Secondly, to add a bit of value to the "google groups" concept
as it applies only to Usenet posts - and in this case - as it
applies to figuring out whether or not a post was deleted ...

In a strange dejanews-related convoluted sort of way, many nntp
Usenet posts are searchably archived when sent to Usenet groups.

Those web-searchable Usenet articles are auto-archived here...
https://groups.google.com/g/<insert.name.of.archived.group.here>

As a working example, here are the searchable archives for this ng.
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.free.newsservers>

As a non-working example, not every popular Usenet ng is archived.
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.os.windows-10>

Workaround is to include this nobody-uses-it newsgroup for archival.
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.microsoft.windows>

My only two points are (a) thanks to Paganini for allowing the privacy now
that Steve Crook's server and Paolo Amoroso's servers are down and out, and
(b) Usenet and Google Groups are indelibly intertwined with the DejaNews
archives that Google took over about fifteen (or so) years ago.

On 06/10/2023 21:32, Wally J wrote:
> First, I must commend Ivo in allowing us the privacy use of bofh.

My pleasure

> My only two points are (a) thanks to Paganini for allowing the privacy now
> that Steve Crook's server and Paolo Amoroso's servers are down and out, and
> (b) Usenet and Google Groups are indelibly intertwined with the DejaNews
> archives that Google took over about fifteen (or so) years ago.

Ggroups it's a valid archive, but bad for posting. No abusedesk, no
check, no control, etc.

Do you want to know what I think? due to many complaint's I don't have
putted them in my cleanfeed filter, but if the UDP continue, it's first
action to do.
Second step it's send nocem _and_ cancel come from GGroups.

Sincerely

--
Ivo Gandolfo

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Ray Banana <rayban@raybanana.net> wrote in
news:slrnuhsc1s.dio0.rayban@raybanana.net:

> * Ivo Gandolfo wrote:
>> On 04/10/2023 22:06, show ver wrote:
>>> Message-ID: <bcfae58b-fe20-4907-9ef7-a46a19ae9bb5n@googlegroups.com>
>>>
>>> Post was there, then a few minutes later gone. The original post
>>> remains accessible on other servers.
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, but it's not me to delete this post, but Eternal September via
>> nocem notice, see news.list.filter, M-Id
>><20231004194502$c49c@news.eternal-september.org>
>
> Looks like I should fine tune the spam rules a bit more

That's an understatement. There's also an unknown number of non-google
regular user posts on Ivo's server no longer available all the way back
to the beginning of August 2022 now, haven't looked further. If they
were hamsterized might be okay depending on settings. If the newsreader
supported caching might still be there, otherwise, "poof!".

Seems if one of the NoCeM undesireables replied to a post, the entire
thread was nuked. I know they were there once because Ivo had posts
going back to 2017 and they were cached in the newsreader. Those much
older posts are still there and not expired.

You taking coding lessons from Marco, Ray?

* blackhelicopters wrote:
[...]
> regular user posts on Ivo's server no longer available all the way back
> to the beginning of August 2022 now, haven't looked further. If they
> were hamsterized might be okay depending on settings. If the newsreader
> supported caching might still be there, otherwise, "poof!".

As my NoCeM bot only filters *new* posts from Google Groups, this is not
related to my NoCeMs.

> Seems if one of the NoCeM undesireables replied to a post, the entire
> thread was nuked. I know they were there once because Ivo had posts
> going back to 2017 and they were cached in the newsreader. Those much
> older posts are still there and not expired.

Ivo might be able to investigate, if you can provide M-IDs.
Nuking entire threads reminds me of the Miakibot (which is ignored on E-S).

Oh, and btw:

Shut up, Seamus

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