In article <1b03f08f-e59c-4568-ad19-29896f624050n@googlegroups.com>,
"pete...@gmail.com" <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 12:45:11?PM UTC-5, Robert Woodward wrote:
<SNIP!>
> >
> > I am not seeing those spam messages on the 'news.individual.net'
> > newserver. Unfortunately, legitimate messages get filtered out (they are
> > white listing legitimate posters who use Google Groups, but those
> > filters aren't working 100% of the time).
> >
>
> I'm one of those GG users, and I get asked the robot question.
> Sadly, there are tools that let you automate around the simple
> 'Check the box' question. They don't work for the 'click on all the
> busses' CAPTCHA, but I can think of ways to automate that too.
>
> Selenium webdriver is an amazing tool.
>

I posted several days ago that you were white listed on
'news.individual.net'. Unfortunately, I must report that it appears that
your posts (and those of other posters who use Google Goups) are not
always white-listed (I have not tried to determine if there is a
pattern).

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In article <ukec93$288l0$1@dont-email.me>,
Default User <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote:
>The Doctor wrote:
>
>>In article <ukc0ai$1pf5p$4@dont-email.me>,
>>Default User <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 11/30/2023 2:53 AM, Charles Packer wrote:
>>>>>This newsgroup is getting swamped by spam. Any tips on how to
>>>>>navigate it would be appreciated. I know about kill files, but
>>>>>I've never had the need to learn how to use them.
>>>>
>>>>Move from Google Groups to Eternal-September using Thunderbird as
>>>>your news reader.
>>>
>>>It does not appear that Charles is using GG. From the headers:
>>>
>>>Pan/0.141 (Tarzan's Death; 168b179 git.gnome.org/pan2)
>>>Organization: Newshosting.com
>
>>Check the path.
>
>What does the path have to do with it? Charles is not using Google
>Groups.
>
>
>Brian

Path will tell you the origins of the post.
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On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 16:35:32 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>On 12/1/2023 3:26 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>> On Friday, 1 December 2023 at 16:39:53 UTC, Paul S Person wrote:
>>> On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 02:17:29 -0800 (PST), Robert Carnegie
>>> <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, 30 November 2023 at 23:03:34 UTC, Kevrob wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 7:26:14?AM UTC-5, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, 30 November 2023 at 08:54:00 UTC, Charles Packer wrote:
>>>>>>> This newsgroup is getting swamped by spam. Any tips on how to
>>>>>>> navigate it would be appreciated. I know about kill files, but I've
>>>>>>> never had the need to learn how to use them.
>>>>>> We've discussed the problem.
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.sf.written/c/f1q-ahtlKo8/m/5p0Ph8YUAQAJ>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For one thing, it depends on what you're using
>>>>>> to read the group. Technical details of your posts
>>>>>> probably contain that information... somehow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Google Groups, I am reporting the spam when
>>>>>> I see it, but I don't know if that is carrying over
>>>>>> for other users.
>>>>> Please don't report the spam. If Google is moved to do
>>>>> anything at all, it will cut off access to the group for all
>>>>> who reached it through their portal:
>>>>>
>>>>> [quote]
>>>>>
>>>>> Banned content warning
>>>>>
>>>>> soc.history.what-if has been identified as containing spam,
>>>>> malware, or other malicious content.
>>>>>
>>>>> For more information about content policies on Google Groups
>>>>> see our Help Center article on abuse and our Terms of Service.
>>>>>
>>>>> [/quote]
>>>>>
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/soc.history.what-if
>>>>
>>>> That's been mentioned before. But in this case,
>>>> some news servers are cutting out Google Groups
>>>> with the argument that the spam is coming from
>>>> Google, and users such as "The Doctor" have been
>>>> calling for years for Google to be completely cut off.
>>>> So I think that reporting the spam, as Google invites
>>>> me to do, does not create risk of an outcome that isn't
>>>> on the cards anyway.
>>>>
>>>> After all, by your argument, any newsgroup could
>>>> be cancelled on Google Groups just by reporting
>>>> all of the posts as spam.
>>> And, for all we know, it could be.
>>>
>>> Or have you put this to the test?
>>
>> I'm reporting our spam. Call that a test. But if spam
>> reports got a Usenet group cancelled on Google,
>> then why would any group be left after a while?
>>
>> soc.history.what-if no doubt had the problem of
>> being full of posts about events that didn't or
>> couldn't happen.
>>
>Google couldn't care less about the content of a newsgroup, they just
>got a lot of spam reports for that group and rather than spend any
>effort trying to block just the spam they simply blocked the entire group.

Well, that is both the most efficient and the most cost-effective
solution. "Out of sight, out of mind" is, IIRC, the properly adage.
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Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 15:26:34 -0800 (PST), Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:

>On Friday, 1 December 2023 at 16:39:53 UTC, Paul S Person wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 02:17:29 -0800 (PST), Robert Carnegie
>> <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, 30 November 2023 at 23:03:34 UTC, Kevrob wrote:
>> >> On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 7:26:14?AM UTC-5, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>> >> > On Thursday, 30 November 2023 at 08:54:00 UTC, Charles Packer wrote:
>> >> > > This newsgroup is getting swamped by spam. Any tips on how to
>> >> > > navigate it would be appreciated. I know about kill files, but I've
>> >> > > never had the need to learn how to use them.
>> >> > We've discussed the problem.
>> >> > <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.sf.written/c/f1q-ahtlKo8/m/5p0Ph8YUAQAJ>
>> >> >
>> >> > For one thing, it depends on what you're using
>> >> > to read the group. Technical details of your posts
>> >> > probably contain that information... somehow.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Google Groups, I am reporting the spam when
>> >> > I see it, but I don't know if that is carrying over
>> >> > for other users.
>> >> Please don't report the spam. If Google is moved to do
>> >> anything at all, it will cut off access to the group for all
>> >> who reached it through their portal:
>> >>
>> >> [quote]
>> >>
>> >> Banned content warning
>> >>
>> >> soc.history.what-if has been identified as containing spam,
>> >> malware, or other malicious content.
>> >>
>> >> For more information about content policies on Google Groups
>> >> see our Help Center article on abuse and our Terms of Service.
>> >>
>> >> [/quote]
>> >>
>> >> https://groups.google.com/g/soc.history.what-if
>> >
>> >That's been mentioned before. But in this case,
>> >some news servers are cutting out Google Groups
>> >with the argument that the spam is coming from
>> >Google, and users such as "The Doctor" have been
>> >calling for years for Google to be completely cut off.
>> >So I think that reporting the spam, as Google invites
>> >me to do, does not create risk of an outcome that isn't
>> >on the cards anyway.
>> >
>> >After all, by your argument, any newsgroup could
>> >be cancelled on Google Groups just by reporting
>> >all of the posts as spam.
>> And, for all we know, it could be.
>>
>> Or have you put this to the test?
>
>I'm reporting our spam. Call that a test. But if spam
>reports got a Usenet group cancelled on Google,
>then why would any group be left after a while?

Why do mushrooms show up ever year even though I pick 'em (and dispose
of them as yard waste -- I don't even /pretend/ to know which are
edible, if any are) as soon as they appear?

>soc.history.what-if no doubt had the problem of
>being full of posts about events that didn't or
>couldn't happen.
>
>I admit, this could affect rasfw as well.
>
>It's still here so far - for me - but a stack of replies
>are from members who have individually cancelled
>Google. So I may be talking only to myself.

I am not you, so, no, you are not talking only to yourself.
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On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 08:53:55 GMT, Charles Packer wrote:

> This newsgroup is getting swamped by spam. Any tips on how to
> navigate it would be appreciated. I know about kill files, but I've
> never had the need to learn how to use them.

Ask in <news.software.readers> how to filter out spam with Pan.

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s|b

In article <kt1gvgF3bboU3@mid.individual.net>,
s|b <sb.nospam@belgacom.net> wrote:
>On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 08:53:55 GMT, Charles Packer wrote:
>
>> This newsgroup is getting swamped by spam. Any tips on how to
>> navigate it would be appreciated. I know about kill files, but I've
>> never had the need to learn how to use them.
>
>Ask in <news.software.readers> how to filter out spam with Pan.
>

I no longer carry Google GRoups due to their abuse!

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>s|b

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