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* Re: A meta question about the Alien Space BatsRich Rostrom
+* Re: A meta question about the Alien Space BatsThe Horny Goat
|`- Re: A meta question about the Alien Space Batspyotr filipivich
`* Re: A meta question about the Alien Space BatsLouis Epstein
 `- Re: A meta question about the Alien Space BatsDimensional Traveler

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Re: A meta question about the Alien Space Bats

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From: rrost...@comcast.net (Rich Rostrom)
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Subject: Re: A meta question about the Alien Space Bats
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 by: Rich Rostrom - Mon, 17 Jan 2022 17:30 UTC

On 6/13/20 12:02 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
> If the Space Bats did it, then wouldn't we be
> pestering them for solutions to the problems they
> provided/caused?

This assumes we have any perception of the ASBs as agents.
More likely the Event just happens, and humans have no
idea how it happened.

Or humans see them Do It - but have no more idea of how
to communicate with the ASBs than ants would with humans.

--
Nous sommes dans une pot de chambre, et nous y serons emmerdés.
--- General Auguste-Alexandre Ducrot at Sedan, 1870.

Re: A meta question about the Alien Space Bats

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From: lcra...@home.ca (The Horny Goat)
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Subject: Re: A meta question about the Alien Space Bats
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 by: The Horny Goat - Mon, 17 Jan 2022 20:01 UTC

On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:30:45 -0600, Rich Rostrom
<rrostrom@comcast.net> wrote:

>On 6/13/20 12:02 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>> If the Space Bats did it, then wouldn't we be
>> pestering them for solutions to the problems they
>> provided/caused?
>
>This assumes we have any perception of the ASBs as agents.
>More likely the Event just happens, and humans have no
>idea how it happened.
>
>Or humans see them Do It - but have no more idea of how
>to communicate with the ASBs than ants would with humans.

I've always considered "ASBs" to be a plot device to make something
implausible happen and not actually a physical creature.

Others have called this "handwaveium"

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 by: pyotr filipivich - Mon, 17 Jan 2022 23:36 UTC

The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> on Mon, 17 Jan 2022 12:01:15 -0800
typed in soc.history.what-if the following:
>On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:30:45 -0600, Rich Rostrom
><rrostrom@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>On 6/13/20 12:02 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>> If the Space Bats did it, then wouldn't we be
>>> pestering them for solutions to the problems they
>>> provided/caused?
>>
>>This assumes we have any perception of the ASBs as agents.
>>More likely the Event just happens, and humans have no
>>idea how it happened.
>>
>>Or humans see them Do It - but have no more idea of how
>>to communicate with the ASBs than ants would with humans.
>
>I've always considered "ASBs" to be a plot device to make something
>implausible happen and not actually a physical creature.
>
>Others have called this "handwaveium"

In "Through the Looking Glass", following a lab accident (60kt TNT
equivalent "boom".), there is a boson generator which creates portals.
Near Baton Rouge there is a fifty mile zone where most people died,
and those on the peremptory just went insane, The Specialist say
"It's Chthulu!" to which the Uber science geek professor says "Hmm.
But you can't say that. For one, we don't know if that is what it
calls itself, Call it a 'chuthuloid entity' and continue."
--
pyotr filipivich
"History rarely repeats herself" is the cliche. In reality she just
lets fly with a frying pan yelling "Why weren't you listening the first time!?"

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From: le...@top.put.com (Louis Epstein)
Newsgroups: soc.history.what-if,alt.history,alt.history.what-if
Subject: Re: A meta question about the Alien Space Bats
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 02:35:34 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Louis Epstein - Thu, 20 Jan 2022 02:35 UTC

In alt.history.what-if Rich Rostrom <rrostrom@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 6/13/20 12:02 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>> If the Space Bats did it, then wouldn't we be
>> pestering them for solutions to the problems they
>> provided/caused?
>
> This assumes we have any perception of the ASBs as agents.
> More likely the Event just happens, and humans have no
> idea how it happened.
>
> Or humans see them Do It - but have no more idea of how
> to communicate with the ASBs than ants would with humans.
>

So...no way to ally with their natural predators?

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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From: dtra...@sonic.net (Dimensional Traveler)
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 by: Dimensional Traveler - Thu, 20 Jan 2022 03:43 UTC

On 1/19/2022 6:35 PM, Louis Epstein wrote:
> In alt.history.what-if Rich Rostrom <rrostrom@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 6/13/20 12:02 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>>> If the Space Bats did it, then wouldn't we be
>>> pestering them for solutions to the problems they
>>> provided/caused?
>>
>> This assumes we have any perception of the ASBs as agents.
>> More likely the Event just happens, and humans have no
>> idea how it happened.
>>
>> Or humans see them Do It - but have no more idea of how
>> to communicate with the ASBs than ants would with humans.
>>
>
> So...no way to ally with their natural predators?
>
The Alien Space Bats retconned their natural predators out of existence.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.


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